LET EM GROW

He shouldnt a done that.. (1) 1-1/4" spur, and a jake nub on the other side 22# 9.5" beard

Turkey gods shined down again yesterday.. Got setup on a known roost location.. and all was silent.. I waited until 6am since most birds lately have been very quiet. Got to a spot on a woods corner where if birds are in the fields they typically always pass this spot on their way through the property.. I get to that corner after crawling on my knees and there's a big Tom and three jakes strutting with two hens out eating in the fresh planted oat sprouts 100 yards out.. I setup into a down tree and made one soft yelp series to see if he would pay any attention and of course he didn't seem to.. So I sat watched them to see what their plan was before making my mind up, I'm in a good spot as most birds pass this corner.. well a few moments later 6 more jakes come out of the next corner and run across this field at the tom all full and half strut.. they get to him and the 9 total jakes start beating the snot out of this Tom, literally just whooping his a$$.. The Tom returning fight but is clearly out numbered.. I've seen these jakes several times now and they do seem like some territorial young punks.. They fought back and forth for 30 minutes drifting away and then back much closer.. Had them in range several times but I could never take a shot and only take 1 bird safely.. Finally they start drifting right around my corner.. the Jakes pushing the Tom right away from the hens, into my lap.. But I couldn't shoot.. These birds were on him like stink on chit.. after one last flog from a couple jakes, the tom took out away from them and quite a bit further from me, I hit him with a quick cut on a batwing diaphragm my buddy made me and he stopped and went to full strut then popped his head out .. and with it being my 2nd day out and probably last day in the woods.. I knew my pattern would wreak havoc.. at 57 steps the 20 gauge single shot with a handload of 1-5/8oz of 8s.. tipped him over like a tea kettle.. beak straight to the plowed dirt.. no flop.. the Jake punks immediately started stomping his butt again.. they let me walk up to about 5 yards in he plowed field before they started to slowly walk away. pretty neat. I'm Not a fan of long range shots but i knew what would happen.. Brand new shell i just put together late last week. Then around 730 we hit another property and got on another Tom with a hen.. made one call and they went the other direction silently.. found them about 600 yards to the south.. go around on them where we thought they were headed.. put my brother ahead and i stayed back.. Bird came in gobbling hot without his hen but i believe him and my brother made eye contact at the same time (within gun range) and the bird putted away.. OH well we can give him a break and go back after him next weekend.. I think at one point when he was silent and he was within range on our first setup, just couldn't hear or see him. as it was thick..

Have you tried reaping with a fan? She might enjoy that! and it might be whats needed to get close.. just go slow.. Im about to try it this weekend lol

Been looking to see everyone's harvests this spring. Was there never a thread made? Just curious, I do believe we need one if we don't have one already! My apologies if i missed it.. Use this one if need be lol.

I use one, and love it. I just dont enjoy sitting in that heat and sun.. Not hunting anyways, get me home or on the boat and a cold one in my hand instead! lol

Camera soaks are great. Just make sure you have a good trustworthy cam. I just pulled some cams that were put out last September.. I set them in spots i am hoping are going to achieve the desired goal.. And I love it when it all works out. I usually leave them out at least for the season intended, refresh re juice and put it back out for the next scouting season. My browning's all still have battery power that were put out before deer season. on alkaline batteries

Look for them where the shade is.. Pines mixed hardwoods etc.. or near water swampy areas that will be cooler. Typically not open fields. I will only go the first couple hours and be done, I do not enjoy hunting in hot weather lol.

Watched a doe give birth to a fawn yesterday.. about 50 yards off the road.

I got a smokin deal on (3) Indian creek tubes brand new straight from the factory. So i went with 380, 385 and 390 so i can tinker with each! It also matches the Stevens 301 410 threads as well so i can tinker with that gun. I won that 301 410 in a raffle and pick that up tonight! As for the Full choke n my nieces gun, that's just a browning invector full.. winchoke is the same as winchester invector, browning invector etc.. Carlsons does have one but im not sure its any better than most factory full chokes. I have been looking at Ic, Jebs, Comp n Choke, and Rectifier choke tubes as well. but will probably stick with these IC chokes for now. Yea i kind of want to put one of the Indian creeks in my nieces gun to try it, but i dont have the shot trap setup to catch all the pellets

So I had a couple 410s in the gun cabinet with modified barrels and no choke system in them. Also had a couple friends and a niece that had one as well. I knew they would make some nice little lightweight turkey guns, or a better small game/target guns. With a little know how and right equipment. I put threads in these guns to utilize the Winchoke thread pattern. I charged the friends equally what it cost me to acquire the tooling and i broke even(for the most part). I did drill and tap my nieces barrel and gift her a little reflex sight for her black synthetic 410 so she could enjoy shooting it more. I Wish I could do a trigger job on it, Maybe down the road, as that American Tactical Nomad is the worst trigger I've ever seen! Next year she turns twelve and can chase turkeys with me! The pattern picture on the diaper box posted is from her gun with just a Full choke installed, that way she can still shoot what she wants through it (other than slugs lol).. That's 35 yards with a handload of tungsten shot that I put together for my 410 turkey guns.. The "diaper in the middle is a 6" circle basically. I thought about putting out an ad maybe to thread 410 barrels and make a few dollars to support a great habit, but i also did not want to be held accountable by people I do not know.. Not for sake of the job and my name on it, But Bc you never know what people are capable of these days..

These make great predator vests when daytime hunting from the ground! I got the tenzig turkey for about the same price or id be all over this!

That's some serious numbers! I think you need a hunting ny name change with career #s like that! lol My numbers have become pretty weak since having kids, work and morning baseball tends to get in the way of spring time chess! Thanks. Chasing these older birds, just like mature whitetails.. really teaches you how they do things to survive if your willing to pay attention.

ill have to try this thanks. first time iphone user lol

Thanks, It is a pretty impressive bird no doubt!!

Tapatalk doesn't seem to want to work anymore with my phone.. or actually its probably just me navigating it wrong lol.. Yesterday A.M. My first morning out.. (Found out how much Turkeys and Owls get along..) Got setup on a typical roost ridge, lucky for me there was a Tom there,2 minutes After a soft tree yelp, followed by fly down cackle and my hat flapping.. he pitched into my setup, 20 yards left, but no clear shot. I let him walk away with his hen as he was heading the direction i did not want him to go..so I sat quiet and I let him be to try a roost attempt in another day or two.. After checking the rest of that property for a tom that wanted to be play, and then another property, followed by 2 more other properties with zero luck..I decided to go get some work done, On my last attempt to strike a bird I figured I would try my 12 acre camp, and as I had a feeling might happen, I strike a bird, sounds like a good one at that.. I got around on him and started reeling him in.. Just as i can make him out coming through the woods at 75 yards.. an owl comes in fast and lands on a limb between us and let out some noises Ive never heard before staring in my direction with intent.. lol as well as the Tom's.. The owls approach quickly sent the Tom the other direction and he never made a peep the rest of the day.. I Gave my brother some MRI of the days adventures.. and he went in after the same Roost setup but not a bird was there, and the hill was silent minus light hen talk.. He packed up after a bit to find the bird the Owl bumped on me.. He found him in close to the same spot as I did.. Called him in to 40 steps and the gun went click.. he quickly racked a second shell only to hear that one go click also... By now the bird is alert and walks off quick.. He knew where he was headed and got around on him and sat quietly.. 20 minutes later.. the bird lost his soul.. 1.5" spurs 24# 10" Beard

Mark up what you need and I can modify them for you boss man

Nice work Brian! I knew you could tackle this! Did you try it out at all yet?

Thank you sir. I started one last night with just a rag and mineral spirits and they aren't as bad as I thought. They look terrible, but its not as far gone as I initially figured. And you're right, I don't want a brand new gun, I just want them cleaned up a tad and not looking like they came back up from the bottom of the lake. I have the Numrich catalog on my work bench at work. has to be a couple thousand pages deep. And i frequent the online catalog often. I will keep this in mind. Thank you! I'm not one for using special chemicals and removers to begin with. Old guns aren't supposed to look brand new. Most of the time anyways. Thanks again! Bryan

The "humpback" has no model on it anywhere, Just the standard Remington stamping with the factory location and such, So I'm guessing its a model 11 as the google images look identical to it. There's also a sportsman 58 and an immaculate 1100 30" Full barrel 12ga as well. Then several 870 pumps and Model 37 Ithaca in 12 and 16 gauges.

IT is pricey, But most peoples carbon arrow setups are even more expensive and they many time break after one harvest.. Theres no difference. And With Tungsten, you can trap the shot and re use it unlike Lead and others.. It is expensive no doubt, but extremely ethical, extremely devastating and versatile.. especially as this state will begin banning lead shots..

I got sick with Covid right after making this post, and I have yet to check as today is my first day im really back on my feet a little. IT does have the humpback. When I get around today I will try to check it out. IT was my grandfathers uncles gun and i will say its certainly an older gun. Sorry for the delay.. its eating me up that there is a dozen old remingtons laying there, looking for attention and i have yet to give it to them lol..

(most of)GunBroker Buds gun shop Rogers And many mom and pop custom ammo makers..

There is a bunch of sites and companies that will ship to our door here. This is just one of the most common.

Its really not, but like you said to make small bore guns stone cold killers with the use of smaller "not NY Legal" shot sizes.. and acheive the big bore patterns with lead. But one thing i notice especially with 8s, you will 99% of the time, never see them flap a wing after being hit. Bang, No Flop, Just Drop. Leaving it extremely ethical and efficient in many aspects. This also helps with those looking to get full body mounts done with their birds. Where Flapping for 5 minutes may ruin some feathers. Also, Those 8s are not getting stuck in breast meat like most all lead shot will.. Unless the range is extended.. Just some positives ive learned from loading them over the years.

Thanks all. I greatly appreciate the advise. Feels great to have some family heir-looms added to the collection