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Arrow speed VS Arrow momentum

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ELMER J. FUDD
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This segment of the annual KE vs speed thread has been brought to you by... GORILLA TREESTANDS. Because even an ape knows that speed does not increase accuracy. Carry on...

sits in trees
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An arrow with a good sharp tip on it and plenty of practice, that is about as technical as I need to get. Why must we always over complicate everything.

Elmo
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Technology has changed hunting but society and human expansion also changed hunting.  No longer can we chase thousands of buffalos off a cliff on horseback.  No longer can we chase buffalos on horseba

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So this is our fps vs Ke annual discussion? There is not a "one size fits all" when choosing an arrow's size, weight or material.

 

WNYBH - Can't I also conversly say more Ke is a little "over-kill" for a whitetail? So don't fall into the male ego trap of thinking bigger is always better.

 

Accuracy, isn't that in the hand's of the shooter? Like a lot of others have eluded to, shot placement is paramount, regardless of what size/wgt of the arrow.

 

SO - Whatever arrow you're comfortable with and consistent in shooting, won't you end up making a better shot in the moment of truth? Yes - No?

 

IF - You do make a good shot (placement) and the arrow only goes in 1/2 way, but has the blender effect as the deer trots off. How is that any worse or better than "pile driving" an arrow to eventually having a pass-thru??? It is basically a cut-on-contact style of hunting, so if your arrow punctures both lungs, who cares if it is still in the deer or in the ground behind it..?

 

Think most will admit there are positives and negatives for both sides of the arguement of faster vs heavier. Doesn't it basically come down to personal preference..?

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- Can't I also conversly say more Ke is a little "over-kill" for a whitetail? So don't fall into the male ego trap of thinking bigger is always better.

 

 

 

IF - You do make a good shot (placement) and the arrow only goes in 1/2 way, but has the blender effect as the deer trots off. How is that any worse or better than "pile driving" an arrow to eventually having a pass-thru??? It is basically a cut-on-contact style of hunting, so if your arrow punctures both lungs, who cares if it is still in the deer or in the ground behind it..?

 

Think most will admit there are positives and negatives for both sides of the arguement of faster vs heavier. Doesn't it basically come down to personal preference..?

 

 

1 Speed ratchets up the KE the same as extra weight does at close range but looses at longer range.

 

2 Pass throughs allow for easier tracking, something many have trouble with.

 

3 Heavier is better in the event of that "perfectly placed arrow" nicking a bone on the way in.

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Theres no overkill with a whitetail as far as KE or momentum goes. Pass through is pass through. Want to make sure it passes through regardless of bone in the way on a marginal shot? Need more momentum.

 

Ah maybe I should shoot a lighter arrow, I am cautious about broadside shots from the ground when there are two deer sandwiched together for fear of getting two in one shot.   :prankster:

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Ah maybe I should shoot a lighter arrow, I am cautious about broadside shots from the ground when there are two deer sandwiched together for fear of getting two in one shot.   :prankster:

 

In that case Doewhacker, you should only come to 1/2 draw, and not full draw when you release.

You should have special arrows cut to 14.5" for just that scenerio, and get plenty of practice before season starts by stacking your 3-d targets 3 deep!

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Protect ya neck!

 

who is your favorite clan member?

 

Raekwon the chef, the RZA, the GZA, ODB (R.I.P.), Method Man, Inspecta Deck, Ghostface Killah, or U-God? there might be 1 or 2 more that I cant think of right now.

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who is your favorite clan member?

 

Raekwon the chef, the RZA, the GZA, ODB (R.I.P.), Method Man, Inspecta Deck, Ghostface Killah, or U-God? there might be 1 or 2 more that I cant think of right now.

 

You're missing Masta Killa and Cappadonna.

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Elmer Fudd's avatar is Wu Tang Clan.

 

Okay, Biz...Being an ignorant old fart, I have no idea what that means, and perhaps I'd rather not know...

In my generation, the most bizzare thing we might do is to eackspay in igpay atinaly...

Ixnay on the wutay angtay andclay itshay....

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Okay, Biz...Being an ignorant old fart, I have no idea what that means, and perhaps I'd rather not know...

In my generation, the most bizzare thing we might do is to eackspay in igpay atinaly...

Ixnay on the wutay angtay andclay itshay....

 

Wu-Tang Clan is the name of a music group.  As with all music group/artist, some people will consider it music while others won't.

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At what point is hunting no longer hunting with all the technology advancements. I have no range finder, no electronic wind telling device, no ear piece to help me hear game, no rifle that can shoot a million and one yards, no darn electronic anything.

 

About the most technologically advanced thing i have is a mathews bow lol

 

Now, some of you guys may be with me on this and some may not, either or is cool with me. I just hunt, i have hunted long enough to know what do to do and i dont need technology to improve my hunting skills. The only way to do that is sit in a tree and watch and learn.

 

Whose with me!! 

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At what point is hunting no longer hunting with all the technology advancements. I have no range finder, no electronic wind telling device, no ear piece to help me hear game, no rifle that can shoot a million and one yards, no darn electronic anything.

About the most technologically advanced thing i have is a mathews bow lol

Now, some of you guys may be with me on this and some may not, either or is cool with me. I just hunt, i have hunted long enough to know what do to do and i dont need technology to improve my hunting skills. The only way to do that is sit in a tree and watch and learn.

Whose with me!!

By that analogy, you may want to look into hunting with rock.

I agree that being out there is important, but so is confidence in your hunting implement and knowing its advantages.

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