The New F-150; Tinfoil On Wheels?

[landtracdeerhunter]

The frame is still made out of steel. The cab, body, and cargo area will be made out of a high grade aluminum alloy in 2015.  The vehicle's weight will be 700 lbs lighter for better fuel economy, without hurting performance.  2.7 liter engine .  Ford as well as shareholders, hopes sales will "take off."  Ford officials couldn't be reached for comment, as they were on a soda break LOL.

 

 

Other manufactures have been using aluminum engine cradles for several years now. I just worry about durability and cracks developing in vibration and stress areas. Maybe they have ironed that out.

Edited January 16, 2014 by landtracdeerhunter

[phade]

Looks like a rebadged Dodge almost with the design curves.

 

Actually prefer the blockier style of the current model year.

[fasteddie]

I was wondering what they were going to do with all those recycled beer cans ! Drink a lot and help build a Ford ........

[moog5050]

Always nice to confirm that you DON'T want to "upgrade" to the newest model.  I will keep the 6.2L gas guzzler, carbon footprint be damned.

[Terry]

I was told by someone who works at the aluminum plant to expect 27-30 mpg on average

[WNYBuckHunter]

Certain parts of the Ram have been aluminum since 2009. I know the hood is, and I believe the roof and cab exterior panels are as well.

[WNYBuckHunter]

I was told by someone who works at the aluminum plant to expect 27-30 mpg on average

 

Thats what they say it will be, but I highly doubt it. My truck will get 20+ on the highway in ideal conditions, but 16-18 is the realistic average.

[dirt_a_KISS]

The alluminion they are using is used in the military vehicles such as the hummer. Well like the truck and hopefully the 2.7 wont have the troubles of the old 3.5 ecoboost

[t_barb]

The question that I have is how will the lighter vehicle wait impact towing?  If you think about it, half of that 700lbs. is weight you lose in the rear/bed of the truck...  That is the main concern I would have at this point.

[WNYBuckHunter]

The less weight of the tow vehicle, the less tow capacity it usually has.

[moog5050]

The less weight of the tow vehicle, the less tow capacity it usually has.

 

The bigger question is, "does the truck come with a carpeted bed?"

[ants]

A 2.7 liter engine in a full sized truck like that? Sounds like a dog no matter how they boost it .

[landtracdeerhunter]

These trucks are designed for the female customer.That's who they cater to.

Edited January 16, 2014 by landtracdeerhunter

[Terry]

I don't pretend to be a engineer, but I have a feeling that Ford isn't dumb enough to give up too much "performance"

[BUCKANDAQUARTER]

The 2015 tacoma is also going with aluminum and direct injection.

[Arrow Flinger]

I don't pretend to be a engineer, but I have a feeling that Ford isn't dumb enough to give up too much "performance"

 

Have you seen the Ecoboost engine?LOL!

[Terry]

Chevy is next as well

[WNYBuckHunter]

Well Ford can put ll of the small displacement engines in they want, and claim this mileage and that, but if I were to buy a new truck this year, it would be the diesel 1/2 ton Ram. Boost a gas engine all you want, it wont have the life expectancy of a diesel.

[Terry]

No it won't and Cummins makes a great motor. Unfortunately, the rest of the truck won't be as sturdy.

[Jeremy K]

Is this new Cummins for the half ton been proven over seas or is it brand new ? Something just isn't right about a v8 Cummins.

[dirt_a_KISS]

I've herd that the new colorado/canyon will have a turbo diesel engine next year. 

[phade]

The new Colorado/canyon will have a diesel in the second model year, so 2016. 2015 will see the new platform and truck with regular NA engines. I'm looking at this truck as a replacement if the reliability is there. I've not been a GM person though.

 

Ford actually states the weight savings means that it can tow that much more - so 500-700 lbs saved actually means that it can increase towing and payload capacity. So, reducing weight doesn't mean it can tow less. Ford is also going to be the first to go to the uniform system set by the gov't agencies to compare apples to apples between manufacturers. Dodge and GM have not done so yet. Although I'm not sold on the looks of the truck, Ford is pretty confident in their designs/ability, and I give them credit for that. Like anything else, this next generation ecoboost will be better than the last - first model runs almost always have quirks to iron out no matter the usability testing that is done.

 

 

[Arrow Flinger]

Is the new Ford gonna have a V6 or a V8 in it? Buying a truck with a V6 is kinda like buying a brand new bow that only shoots 280 IBO.

[WNYBuckHunter]

No it won't and Cummins makes a great motor. Unfortunately, the rest of the truck won't be as sturdy.

 

The half ton engine is not a Cummins. Its a VM Motori engine, which is a company in the same group as Fiat and Alfa Romeo. Its a V6, 3.0 liter turbo. Its been around for a few years in Europe.

 

I own a 2010 Ram, theres nothing wrong with it. Id put it up against anything in its class in a heartbeat.

[phade]

Is the new Ford gonna have a V6 or a V8 in it? Buying a truck with a V6 is kinda like buying a brand new bow that only shoots 280 IBO.

 

No, it's not like buying a new bow that shoots 280...

 

If a v6 that's boosted puts 320 to the wheels then it is the same as a v8 that puts 320 to the wheels - unless the curve is dramatically different. Power is power. Whether it comes from an NA engine or a boosted one...no difference.

 

Quickly looking at the wiki page on the 3.5, twin turbos. Small Garretts that spool fast, which makes sense for the truck's needs. Interesting on the direct injection that allows for regular grade gas, although I don't think I'd run less than premium to prevent detonation. Call me crazy but my interest in turbo engines won't let me run regular grade. I'd be interested to see how rich they run those set-up. I bet you could probably lean them out a bit without fear with premium.

 

I'm not up on the "eco" portion of the engine, but I imagine that the eco comes from the refinement of the turbo use when its at speed or slight increases in speed rather than gasing the pedal.