Where do we stand with crossbows

[nyantler]

My guess is nobody will even notice the addition of crossbowers during the archery season...Oh, maybe those that just can't get it out of their head, but I will always fail to see the impact of crossbows on anyone's personal bow hunting experience...

[phade]

My guess is nobody will even notice the addition of crossbowers during the archery season...Oh, maybe those that just can't get it out of their head, but I will always fail to see the impact of crossbows on anyone's personal bow hunting experience...

 

Are you serious? Nobody will notice? Ohio's xbow take is HALF OF ALL FREAKING DEER SHOT DURING THE BOW SEASON. I believe its actually more than half in the most recent seasons. PA's numbers are reaching the same proportion.

 

People will notice. Fact.

[jjb4900]

Are you serious? Nobody will notice? Ohio's xbow take is HALF OF ALL FREAKING DEER SHOT DURING THE BOW SEASON. I believe its actually more than half in the most recent seasons. PA's numbers are reaching the same proportion.

 

People will notice. Fact.

is it because more hunters put down their compound or recurve and picked up a crossbow, or because that many more people entered the sport? If 50% of NY archers drop their old bows and grab a crossbow it will have the same effect....which would just be a number on a sheet of paper and not more numbers actually hunting.

[Sogaard]

glad you know how to copy and paste your Google searches. happy to help you understand the the history of the crossbow. and thank you for correcting my brain fart on the release.

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Since it's so easy to fact check anything you say these days, I'm glad to know you just talk out of your ass whenever you feel like it.  

 

And if you are equating using a vertical bow release to a crossbow that can be cocked hours before the shot, and has a scope and a trigger, you should share whatever you're smoking.

[sits in trees]

Are you guys going to re-run all these old worn-out arguments every time the word crossbow comes up? Everybody looks at the bowhunters and whines, "Can't we all just get along .....sniff .... sniff?"  How about the rest of you abiding by that same sentiment.

Thanks Doc, these crossbow threads do nothing but seperate us as a group and they have become worn out and replayed so many times that its got to the point of sillyness. Whats gonna happen will happen...

[phade]

is it because more hunters put down their compound or recurve and picked up a crossbow, or because that many more people entered the sport? If 50% of NY archers drop their old bows and grab a crossbow it will have the same effect....which would just be a number on a sheet of paper and not more numbers actually hunting.

 

Re-read what I said...the fact is that notice will be taken. What context it is irrelevant at this point.

 

When 50% of the archery harvest is via xbow, it will be noticed.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Re-read what I said...the fact is that notice will be taken. What context it is irrelevant at this point.

 

When 50% of the archery harvest is via xbow, it will be noticed.

devils advocate.....if the 50% mark is hit and the harvest remains relatively equal? what then

[phade]

devils advocate.....if the 50% mark is hit and the harvest remains relatively equal? what then

People take notice.

[Five Seasons]

is it because more hunters put down their compound or recurve and picked up a crossbow, or because that many more people entered the sport? If 50% of NY archers drop their old bows and grab a crossbow it will have the same effect....which would just be a number on a sheet of paper and not more numbers actually hunting.

 

I am totally guessing, but I bet 75% or more of bowhunters keep their bow. xbows aren't cheap and there is a stigma of using one (not that you may care, but some might). So it will be an addition of new hunters. Many say this is positive for the sport and I agree that it is, however I believe any new hunters to crossbow are already gun hunters. So how many NEW hunters do they bring? Or does it just add more hunters to the archery woods? And is this good or bad? we go round and round.

 

Shooting a nice buck with any weapon is an accomplishment. But when stacked side by side and forced to rank it goes like this

 

rife/xbow/compound/recurve

 

Again, numerous hunters could care less what other hunters think. But some do. And when faced with picking up a crossbow I think a fair number stick with their compound for this reason, the others for monetary reasons.

 

Myself, I am still undecided. There are however, numerous other things I'd put $1k down on first, including a rifle for my now rifle legal county.

[phade]

I am totally guessing, but I bet 75% or more of bowhunters keep their bow. xbows aren't cheap and there is a stigma of using one (not that you may care, but some might). So it will be an addition of new hunters. Many say this is positive for the sport and I agree that it is, however I believe any new hunters to crossbow are already gun hunters. So how many NEW hunters do they bring? Or does it just add more hunters to the archery woods? And is this good or bad? we go round and round.

 

Shooting a nice buck with any weapon is an accomplishment. But when stacked side by side and forced to rank it goes like this

 

rife/xbow/compound/recurve

 

Again, numerous hunters could care less what other hunters think. But some do. And when faced with picking up a crossbow I think a fair number stick with their compound for this reason, the others for monetary reasons.

 

Myself, I am still undecided. There are however, numerous other things I'd put $1k down on first, including a rifle for my now rifle legal county.

 

I wish I could source back the info for Ohio I had a while back, but the jist of my research showed it was a 50/50 crowd - half of the new xbow crowd were archers that opted to go xbow and half were new entrants.

[BizCT]

Shooting a nice buck with any weapon is an accomplishment. But when stacked side by side and forced to rank it goes like this

rife/xbow/compound/recurve

You left out shotgun. More importantly you left out method of hunting. To me a kill on the ground without blind is a great accomplishment than a kill from a tree. Recurve on the ground #1, after that it's debatable. IMO, an xbow spot n stalk kill is more impressive than a compound tree kill over a food plot.

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[phade]

Shooting a nice buck with any weapon is an accomplishment. But when stacked side by side and forced to rank it goes like this rife/xbow/compound/recurve You left out shotgun. More importantly you left out method of hunting. To me a kill on the ground without blind is a great accomplishment than a kill from a tree. Recurve on the ground #1, after that it's debatable. IMO, an xbow spot n stalk kill is more impressive than a compound tree kill over a food plot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

 

Good grief. Why don't we just all break out the loin cloths at this point and drive animals over a cliff?

[BizCT]

I'm making the point that it's not as simple as Belo stated when grading accomplishments:

 

"rife/xbow/compound/recurve"

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Good grief. Why don't we just all break out the loin cloths at this point and drive animals over a cliff?

I am up for a Hunting NY member drive over at Letchworth.

[Doc]

I am up for a Hunting NY member drive over at Letchworth.

Look, if we are going to break out the loin cloths there may be some protests based on visual pollution. Also, the season is going to have to occur at a much warmer part of the year. Also, if done at Letchworth, somebody other than myself is going to have to go down in there to retrieve the deer.

[greg54]

How about an M-60 from a chopper? That would be different.....

[ncountry]

Good grief. Why don't we just all break out the loin cloths at this point and drive animals over a cliff?

 

Christ! I came close to spitting out my coffee all over the monitor ..lol.

[nyantler]

 and won't have any impact on your days huntin

Are you serious? Nobody will notice? Ohio's xbow take is HALF OF ALL FREAKING DEER SHOT DURING THE BOW SEASON. I believe its actually more than half in the most recent seasons. PA's numbers are reaching the same proportion.

 

People will notice. Fact.

I was talking about personal bowhunting experience... most people will have no idea if there is a crossbow hunter anywhere near them... it shouldn't and won't have any impact on your day of bowhunting... the fact that a lot of hunters in Ohio and PA are taking deer with crossbow has no bearing on what crossbow hunting will be in NY... the best you can figure from that info is that crossbow hunting is very popular in OH and PA and those guys are pretty successful... maybe that's what makes it popular.

[nyantler]

The anti-crossbow movement boils down to a group of bowhunters that can't seem to get rid of the hardon they have for crossbows.. if it persists for more than 4 hours you should see your doctor...

[Five Seasons]

I wish I could source back the info for Ohio I had a while back, but the jist of my research showed it was a 50/50 crowd - half of the new xbow crowd were archers that opted to go xbow and half were new entrants.

Sounds fair, but how many were brand new to hunting and how many were already gun hunters?

Shooting a nice buck with any weapon is an accomplishment. But when stacked side by side and forced to rank it goes like thisrife/xbow/compound/recurveYou left out shotgun. More importantly you left out method of hunting. To me a kill on the ground without blind is a great accomplishment than a kill from a tree. Recurve on the ground #1, after that it's debatable. IMO, an xbow spot n stalk kill is more impressive than a compound tree kill over a food plot.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I actually figured you'd bring that up and I agree with you, but I wanted to avoid the 4 paragraph post and keep the discussion to weapon type as it wouldn't derail the thread as much as "ranking kills". I figured I'd also leave type of firearm out as there's pistols and muzzleloaders too. I was trying to make a basic point.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Edited February 28, 2014 by Belo

[Avalanche]

 This is what kills me the most about these insane arguments against crossbows, is that they are already being used by a lot of hunters across the state and have been for several years. Members of my club use them and my neighboring clubs use them. They have not changed our bowhunting experience in any way except to allow the hunter's I do know use them to continue to participate in a sport that they love. Most of these are older hunters who find using Crossbows much more comfortable than a Compound bow. These are the same Hunter's that were Bow hunting long before most of the anti- crossbow crowd were twinkles in their parents eyes. If you check in on any bow shop in the Southern Tier they will tell you that they are selling a lot of Crossbows. Whether or not using Crossbows becomes law, they will continue to be used and by more and more hunters. The anti group needs to get over it.

[BizCT]

I just met Rich, head of the crossbow coalition at the hunting/fishing expo at Rockland Community College. Really nice guy.

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[Terry]

People are naturally resistant to change. The same thing occurred when the DEC wanted to allow Sunday hunting, people came up with a million bs reasons why it would ruin everything. Then it came and nothing changed. Same thing with the recent passing of the youth season. Paranoia is a strong emotion...

[jjb4900]

 This is what kills me the most about these insane arguments against crossbows, is that they are already being used by a lot of hunters across the state and have been for several years. Members of my club use them and my neighboring clubs use them. They have not changed our bowhunting experience in any way except to allow the hunter's I do know use them to continue to participate in a sport that they love. Most of these are older hunters who find using Crossbows much more comfortable than a Compound bow. These are the same Hunter's that were Bow hunting long before most of the anti- crossbow crowd were twinkles in their parents eyes. If you check in on any bow shop in the Southern Tier they will tell you that they are selling a lot of Crossbows. Whether or not using Crossbows becomes law, they will continue to be used and by more and more hunters. The anti group needs to get over it.

you're saying you know a lot of hunter's in New York who use them? last I checked you had to pretty much be a blowing through a tube and confined to a wheelchair in order to get a permit...........

[Bowtoons]

I feel bad for all the public land hunters if they allow X bows during the archery season. It's going to be just like gun season minus hearing the gun shots.