November 2022 will be deciding the future of America

[Northcountryman]

9 minutes ago, left field said:

Single hand rod, so sinking 9' leader with a few feet of tippet. And a heavy fly. Not sure how to ID it past "sinking leader."

On the plus side, when you hit the timing right you can throw 80' pretty easily with all that weight.

2 ways you can rig your sink tip (besides adding shot , of course)im aware of: either use a sink tip line where the first part of the line sinks , or add a piece of sink tip to alength of floating line. Sounds to me like youre using the sink tip line version .  

 

[Northcountryman]

1 hour ago, Northcountryman said:

Excellent quote- Walden? 

The greatest of the Transcendentalists , for sure .

[Versatile_Hunter]

31 minutes ago, left field said:

Single hand rod, so sinking 9' leader with a few feet of tippet. And a heavy fly. Not sure how to ID it past "sinking leader."

On the plus side, when you hit the timing right you can throw 80' pretty easily with all that weight.

Atlantic salmon are amazing. I'm seriously thinking about giving up trout fishing. 

Are they biting or are you snagging like folks in NY?

[left field]

17 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said:

Are they biting or are you snagging like folks in NY?

This definitely isn't a snagging river.

Hard to say if they're "biting" as no one really knows why a salmon hits a fly. Throwing big flies in the hopes of getting a territorial response. The water is low so they've been holding pat in the pools. 

[Shoots100]

One of many good things that America could take from Canada is their election process.

You know, you vote, the votes get counted and a winner is announced.

Just like it used to be in America till the Dems ruined it with their Midas touch.

“Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth.”

 

 

[BowmanMike]

I am in Mallorca,1st time. What a beautiful island,so many hiking trails and stone walls. And olive trees.

[Dinsdale]

19 minutes ago, BowmanMike said:

I am in Mallorca,1st time. What a beautiful island,so many hiking trails and stone walls. And olive trees.

You can hunt Balearic wild goats there…..

Just sayin’

Cool place…..

Edited October 26, 2022 by Dinsdale

[BowmanMike]

9 hours ago, Dinsdale said:

You can hunt Balearic wild goats there…..

Just sayin’

Cool place…..

I saw a few,not much meat on those things. Plus it was hot,the drag would have been rough...

[Grouse]

On 10/25/2022 at 12:03 PM, virgil said:

Isn't it sad that a person sees differing political points of view as reason to call someone an enemy?

I think pointing out some flawed logic and oblivious awareness is necessary here. 

No one is an enemy because of their political points.

However, person who willingly votes for a politician or political party that causes others to suffer, closes their business, destroys their job, destroys their retirement funds, raises the price of basic necessities, a politician who threatens to jail them for gun ownership and force them to accept an experimental vaccine, while that same voter demonstrates the inability to debate civilly by throwing insults and false accusations, all while being protected from immediate consequences hiding behind their keyboard, is not a friend or ally in any sense of the word.

It's no surprise someone like that isn't capable of understanding they are not morally superior, nor a victim, nor worthy of friendship.

If that rankles you, look inward.

Edited October 26, 2022 by Grouse

[Grouse]

On 10/18/2022 at 1:25 PM, Grouse said:

A reptilian troika — Biden, Pelosi and Schumer — is hell-bent on dragging America into the quagmire of third-world totalitarianism.

Our economy, wracked by record-setting inflation, is in free fall. Our southern border no longer exists, and more than 2 million illegal “migrants” have invaded our country. Violent crime is rampant and threatens every American man, woman and child. Our “unalienable rights” to “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” are at risk of being smothered by elites in government who command us to obey.

We The People have a responsibility to repair these egregious offenses. No one has put this better than the greatest president of our lifetimes:

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” —Ronald Reagan

Our next opportunity to fight for and protect the freedoms President Reagan first spoke of so eloquently in 1964 will occur on Nov. 8. If we elect a conservative majority in 435 U.S. House of Representatives seats and 36 U.S. senators, we will have begun to right our ship of state. If we do the same for 36 state governors, innumerable state legislators, county and municipal supervisors, school boards and mayors, our progeny will thank us.

If those of us who support the U.S. Constitution turn out to vote for men and women with integrity and conservative values, the Biden-Pelosi-Schumer Troika will no longer govern the United States and:

— America will again become energy independent.

— The flagging U.S. economy will begin rebounding from inflationary recession to create good paying jobs.

— Our southern border will be closed to illegal “immigrants” and drug and human traffickers.

— Violent crime and deaths from Communist Chinese fentanyl will drop like a stone when elected leaders support honorable, brave law enforcement officers.

— Our allies will accept Biden’s Afghanistan blunder as a “never again” disaster.

— Federal departments and agencies “weaponized” by the Biden-Pelosi-Schumer Troika will be reorganized to conform with their constitutionally proscribed duties.

— Public education will be wrested from the hands of child abusers and indoctrinators controlled by teachers unions and returned to parents in local communities.

— The cult of climate change seeking to convert the American people to nonexistent “sustainable” energy will begin to wither and succumb to reality.

— The USA can reclaim its well-earned place of respect on the world stage. “Peace through strength,” another Reagan legacy, will show our adversaries in China, Russia, North Korea and Iran that “We win, they lose” is a strategic reality.

— Unparalleled innovation, entrepreneurship, and wealth will again be unleashed when government stops trying to “regulate” every facet of our lives.

— Work can begin on making our elections less susceptible to fraud and manipulation.

— Freedom of speech will be restored, and the surveillance of law-abiding citizens will be outlawed.

— The declining strength and readiness of our armed forces will be restored by leaders who will cease preaching divisive “woke” madness to our troops.

Our slide as a nation of freedom and opportunity into tyranny and corruption can be reversed if enough American patriots “adapt and overcome” as Marines put it and cast their votes for conservative candidates in the coming days. Regardless of what polls and pundits claim, we outnumber those who want to dismantle our constitutional republic in favor of a dystopic socialist hell.

Our time is now to preserve the greatest nation on Earth so we can pass it on to “our children and our children’s children.”

COPYRIGHT 2022 OLIVER L. NORTH AND DAVID GOETSCH

Let me repeat the start of this thread, so as to counteract the distraction and misdirection that has infected it.  If you don't like this post, ignore it.

A wise man speaks, because he has something to say.  A fool speaks just to say something.

[BowmanMike]

7 hours ago, Grouse said:

Let me repeat the start of this thread, so as to counteract the distraction and misdirection that has infected it.  If you don't like this post, ignore it.

A wise man speaks, because he has something to say.  A fool speaks just to say something.

I have something to say. you act morally superior,like a victim and worthy of friendship.

[left field]

9 hours ago, Grouse said:

Let me repeat the start of this thread, so as to counteract the distraction and misdirection that has infected it.  If you don't like this post, ignore it.

A wise man speaks, because he has something to say.  A fool speaks just to say something.

"Guiz, you're not listening!!!"

Seriously, dude. See if they can fit "ad nauseam" to your tattoo.

[diplomat019]

Grouse is sitting back letting the rabid left tear down this country and hasnt physically done anything!  Why?  You NEED to act now before it is too late!   The country needs you at the border.  Please act quickly 

Edited October 27, 2022 by diplomat019

[virgil]

15 hours ago, Grouse said:

I think pointing out some flawed logic and oblivious awareness is necessary here. 

No one is an enemy because of their political points.

However, person who willingly votes for a politician or political party that causes others to suffer, closes their business, destroys their job, destroys their retirement funds, raises the price of basic necessities, a politician who threatens to jail them for gun ownership and force them to accept an experimental vaccine, while that same voter demonstrates the inability to debate civilly by throwing insults and false accusations, all while being protected from immediate consequences hiding behind their keyboard, is not a friend or ally in any sense of the word.

It's no surprise someone like that isn't capable of understanding they are not morally superior, nor a victim, nor worthy of friendship.

If that rankles you, look inward.

Mods, the above post should probably be moved to the Political Humor section.

Grouse, you're unintentionally hilarious.  Your lack of self-awareness knows no bounds.

 

[Grouse]

"The Democrats have settled on their closing argument: 'Vote for us so that we can castrate children, use your money to pay for abortions, and put pornography in the schools. If you don't vote for us then you are a Nazi and democracy will die.' Fascinating political strategy." —Matt Walsh

(If we don't support them, we are enemies.  Imagine that.)

Edited October 27, 2022 by Grouse

[Splitear]

How in the world is the political commentary of a rightwing pundit the final word of the democratic party? 

I'll be voting for more Republicans this fall than I ever have in my life, but my main issue with the GOP is that they are running on a platform of "Democrats are bad" while offering little in they way of what they will do to be better. Don't get me wrong, the democrats do the same when they aren't in power. My votes for republicans have more to with opposition with certain democratic policies and less in support of republican policies, mainly because there isn't much information out there as to what their policies are. 

IMO, the party system in the US has become about identity politics, and is the reason I no longer associate myself with either of them, I got tired of having enemies and being considered an enemy. It's toxic and honestly, rather silly when you consider it in the larger scheme of things. But for those who enjoy it, more power to you, I wish you and your team the best. 

Edited October 27, 2022 by Splitear

[Northcountryman]

1 hour ago, Splitear said:

I'll be voting for more Republicans this fall than I ever have in my life,

Thats good!!

1 hour ago, Splitear said:

but my main issue with the GOP is that they are running on a platform of "Democrats are bad" while offering little in they way of what they will do to be better.

Uhhh, not really.  I think you need to actually look at what each individual Republican candidates positions are on specific issues; for example, my man Zeldin.  Is it not abundantly clear to all paying attention that the man is calling for bail reform and an end to these soft on crime policies promoted by the Left? To me, thats not a "Democrats are bad" message but rather, more of a Democrats are wrong message- which they truly are.

1 hour ago, Splitear said:

mainly because there isn't much information out there as to what their policies are. 

Theres plenty, but you gotta stop watching CNN or you wont catch it(admiitedly, I probably miss some legit Republican criticism myself cuz I only watch FOX  so dont feel bad :D). !! Kinda like the Hunter Biden thing!! Or the prous border!!

1 hour ago, Splitear said:

MO, the party system in the US has become about identity politics, and is the reason I no longer associate myself with either of them, I got tired of having enemies and being considered an enemy. It's toxic and honestly, rather silly when you consider it in the larger scheme of things. But for those who enjoy it, more power to you, I wish you and your team the best. 

Totally agree and have said - in 1 way or another- many times myself on here. Just because we dont see the world the same, doesnt mean were enemies!! Disagreement is healthy and, in order to find the truth, is necessary.  I love a good debate myself!! Dont forget to vote next Tuesday and vote Zeldin!!!!

[Splitear]

8 minutes ago, Northcountryman said:

Thats good!!

Uhhh, not really.  I think you need to actually look at what each individual Republican candidates positions are on specific issues; for example, my man Zeldin.  Is it not abundantly clear to all paying attention that the man is calling for bail reform and an end to these soft on crime policies promoted by the Left? To me, thats not a "Democrats are bad" message but rather, more of a Democrats are wrong message- which they truly are.

Theres plenty, but you gotta stop watching CNN or you wont catch it(admiitedly, I probably miss some legit Republican criticism myself cuz I only watch FOX  so dont feel bad :D). !! Kinda like the Hunter Biden thing!! Or the prous border!!

Totally agree and have said - in 1 way or another- many times myself on here. Just because we dont see the world the same, doesnt mean were enemies!! Disagreement is healthy and, in order to find the truth, is necessary.  I love a good debate myself!! Dont forget to vote next Tuesday and vote Zeldin!!!!

There's no shortage of finding information about Republican's positions on things, that's not the issue, but what are they going to do? Sure, I guess repealing things is "policy", but for instance, they hang inflation and gas prices on Biden and the Dems, but I can find no one who has a specific plan that will fix it. Sure, they may have generalities "become energy independent", but they don't offer how they will do that. That's what I'm looking for. I can take a position on a ton of things, but if I don't have any realistic plans on how to fix things, all I'm doing is proselytizing. Again, this isn't just a Republican issue, the Dems do it as well. 

My favorite is the "Tired of High Gas Prices? Vote Republican" signs. It's maddening, of course I'm tired of high gas prices, but no one has offered me any information about how voting Republican is going to fix it. Again, it's grievance and identity politics. My votes for Republicans this year will be based on my opposition to radical policy's being supported by democrats, in the hopes that a political shift will slow them down or stop them. 

[Grouse]

1 hour ago, Splitear said:

How in the world is the political commentary of a rightwing pundit the final word of the democratic party?

It's not.  It's his assessment of the facts.  Feel free to refute whatever you can.

[Splitear]

21 minutes ago, Grouse said:

It's not.  It's his assessment of the facts.  Feel free to refute whatever you can.

I'm not going to refute anything, it's his opinion of what that party stands for, which is fine. However, it seems like you're trying to equate that this guy's opinion means that the Democratic party sees anyone who doesn't vote for them as an enemy. That may or may not be true, but this quote hardly proves it. Opinions do not equal facts. Facts may influence opinion, but no matter how much you want them to, they are not one in the same. 

And just to nip it in the bud, because I know you can argue a brick wall to the ground, I'm not interested in a pissing match with you, so you can just consider this my opinion of your post, and we'll leave it at that. Granted, I'm the idiot who engaged, so I guess I need to be careful about what I reply to

Edited October 27, 2022 by Splitear

[Northcountryman]

1 hour ago, Splitear said:

Sure, I guess repealing things is "policy", but for instance, they hang inflation and gas prices on Biden and the Dems, but I can find no one who has a specific plan that will fix it. Sure, they may have generalities "become energy independent", but they don't offer how they will do that.

Sure they do; go back to the Trump policies which were working in which we achiebved energy independence by 2019 :D.

1 hour ago, Splitear said:

My favorite is the "Tired of High Gas Prices? Vote Republican" signs. It's maddening, of course I'm tired of high gas prices, but no one has offered me any information about how voting Republican is going to fix it.

See my previous statement referring you to the Trump area policies which were working and we enjoyed far lower gas prices due to energy independence.  Biden and the Dems were fools to push this green energy nonsense too darn quickly-and now, we are all paying for it...alas!!

[Splitear]

48 minutes ago, Northcountryman said:

Sure they do; go back to the Trump policies which were working in which we achiebved energy independence by 2019 :D.

See my previous statement referring you to the Trump area policies which were working and we enjoyed far lower gas prices due to energy independence.  Biden and the Dems were fools to push this green energy nonsense too darn quickly-and now, we are all paying for it...alas!!

What were those policies though, and how did they differ from Biden? I'm talking actually enacted policy, not promises and rhetoric. It's easy to say that Trump had better energy policies because gas prices were lower, but how does that prove causality? Now, it may be true, but I really struggle to find any unbiased information that states that energy prices are/were affected by Trump/Biden. Most of the unbiased information I see mostly attributes the price differences to outside factors like Covid, the fracking boom, the war in Ukraine, exporter supply, etc. This leads me to believe that the whole "we'll get you lower gas prices" is a bunch of hot air, and in 2 years if prices haven't come down, they'll blame it on "dems blocking our policies" and if they come down it will be "look how good our policies worked", even if they did jack squat. Politicians are quick to take credit and slow to accept blame. It's easy to show a photo of gas prices in 2020 during the pandemic when demand was at an extreme low, and another from this past summer when demand was at an extreme high, and say "look at this!". 

If you can show me direct causality between gas/energy prices and policies enacted by Trump or Republicans, I will appreciate it. Until then, I'll take it as political sales pitches that hold little water. 

I'll be voting for more Republicans this year, not because I believe they hold some magical policy book that will solve all of the country's problems, shoot, I can hardly find a hard policy document, let alone try to figure out if it will solve anything. I'm voting for them because I feel like most democrats have their priority hierarchy wrong, and at this point, some of the right's priorities fit more with where I'm at in life. Can they make positive gains on those priorities? I have no clue, but at least their going to try something. To say I have faith that they'll make things better would be a gross overstatement, but I will say that I'm crossing my fingers. 

I agree with your last statement about trying to do things too quickly. I firmly believe most of what is accomplished at this point in time is more about politics and less about solid and sustainable policy. 

Edited October 27, 2022 by Splitear

[Grouse]

Perhaps it would be better to look at how much has changed for the worse since Democrats came to power and decide if you want more of it.  There's plenty of factual evidence available to explain how all of this negative stuff happened, but you need to get away from the main stream media and find true independent sources to get it.  And that's not easy with Google, Twitter, YouTube and all of the other Big Tech outfits owned and operated by leftists that are supporting the leftist agenda to bring America down.

Remember when things sucked under Obama and he asked if Trump was going to fix it all "With a magic wand?"  Well, he fixed it all.  And what did he get for it?  Attacks and criticism.  A cadre of deep state actors spent four years demonstrably conspiring to bring down a president, in effect a political coup d'état orchestrated by his former presidential opponent Hillary Clinton. 

Fact is, liberal fascism within the socialist Democrat Party has been on the rise since the election of Barack Obama in 2008, and the ChiCom Virus pandemic put that statist power, the ascent of the Demo authoritarians, into overdrive.

The once-noble Democrat Party is no more, and that organization now constitutes the most perilous threat to American Liberty. Indeed, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer are now the arch enemies of Liberty.

Predictably, since the ugly J6 Capitol riot by a fringe element of Trump supporters, Nancy Pelosi and her Demo cadres have been tagging Republicans as fascists with impunity.  Democratic National Committee Chairman Jaime Harrison insists that the Republican Party has become "a party of fascism and fear." Obama-era National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes insists Trump's presidency was "an American experiment with fascism." Celebrities like Rob Reiner insist: "This midterm there is no gray area. You either cast a vote for democracy or fascism. That's it."  Those are facts that pretty much prove Democrats see the opposition as the enemy.

Joe Biden and his contemporary cadres of socialist "useful idiots" are endeavoring to undermine capitalism and free enterprise. Biden and his ilk are picking up where Obama's promise of "fundamentally transforming the United States of America" left off.  Democrats seek a centrally planned economy and thus a society directed by a dominant-party state that controls economic production by way of taxation, regulation, income redistribution, and public opinion by way of its mainstream media propaganda machine. The success of Democratic Socialism depends upon undermining Liberty — the "unalienable Rights of Man" as "endowed by their Creator" — with the notion that all such rights are granted by the government.

So what do these observations have to do with the current state of economic and political affairs in our great nation? Unfortunately, more than most Americans currently realize.  The cost of energy, inflation, the National Debt and rising crime are all results of these policies.

However discomforting this fact might be, there is abundant and irrefutable evidence that Biden and his congressional Democrats are endeavoring to consolidate their power so as to complete the transformation of America. If you think such assertions are just rhetorical hyperbole, think harder.

Is the Biden/Harris/Schumer/Pelosi strategy to fiscally and morally bankrupt America so they can build it back as a socialist democracy?

Rhetorical question.

Hopefully, that strategy will hit a formidable congressional speed bump when the midterm elections are over.

It's not so much can the people we vote for fix all of this, as it is can they stop it.

 

 

Edited October 27, 2022 by Grouse

[Northcountryman]

40 minutes ago, Splitear said:

What were those policies though, and how did they differ from Biden? I'm talking actually enacted policy, not promises and rhetoric. It's easy to say that Trump had better energy policies because gas prices were lower, but how does that prove causality? Now, it may be true, but I really struggle to find any unbiased information that states that energy prices are/were affected by Trump/Biden.

Allow me to provide some assistance; heres 3 things that Biden did to screw everything up and undo the energy independence/low oil and gas prices americand enjoyed under Trump:

1. Cancelled drilling leases and limited domestic oil production- all in the name of "Green energy" ,mind you cuz remember, during the '20 campaign promised hed go after fossil fuels  !! Well, he wasnt lyin!!!

2. Impelementation of stifling new regulations that impose big costs and lead to higher prices.

3.His anti oil and gas/fossil fuel rhetoric that discourages investment in the O&G industry.

 

Trump, in contrast, implemented gas and energy policies that were incredibly probusiness - result? Lower energy costs.

Biden is an incompetent fool and he and his cronies need to be voted out of power as soon as possible.  Never did i think that I would see a worse Prez in my lifetime than when  44 was in power- I was wrong.  Biden wins the booby prize for worst ever all time :|

[Splitear]

8 minutes ago, Northcountryman said:

Allow me to provide some assistance; heres 3 things that Biden did to screw everything up and undo the energy independence/low oil and gas prices americand enjoyed under Trump:

1. Cancelled drilling leases and limited domestic oil production- all in the name of "Green energy" ,mind you cuz remember, during the '20 campaign promised hed go after fossil fuels  !! Well, he wasnt lyin!!!

2. Impelementation of stifling new regulations that impose big costs and lead to higher prices.

3.His anti oil and gas/fossil fuel rhetoric that discourages investment in the O&G industry.

 

Trump, in contrast, implemented gas and energy policies that were incredibly probusiness - result? Lower energy costs.

Biden is an incompetent fool and he and his cronies need to be voted out of power as soon as possible.  Never did i think that I would see a worse Prez in my lifetime than when  44 was in power- I was wrong.  Biden wins the booby prize for worst ever all time :|

I really hate getting sucked into these things, it's like a toilet bowl, but by my own fault, here I am, another turd floating around in the forum's sewer

My question was, what did Trump/Republicans do, not what did Biden do. More specifically, and this is just a question that I would have for anyone asking for my vote, what WILL they Do, and do they have a plan on how to do it? It's easy to say "look how bad this other guy is doing", but what will they do better? 

Feel free to answer, I'll read and digest it, but I'm going to climb out of the pot now  

Edited October 27, 2022 by Splitear