martinhunter12 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I came across an area killed with deer sign and especially under this tree which still had fruit in it. I don't believe it is an apple tree (if it is I sure will look dumb lol). Anyways the fruit is about 3/4 inch in diameter. And an almost tomato like color. I am not to educated on identifying trees. I know this won't be hard for many of you to identify, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lawdwaz Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I'd say apples. (and I'm right) Lots of apple trees still hanging onto their fruit this year and the critters are enjoying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Maybe not, wiseguy! (me) The second group of pics look NOT like apples????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinhunter12 Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 I'd say apples. (and I'm right) Lots of apple trees still hanging onto their fruit this year and the critters are enjoying it. Thanks, I thought so. But was just surprised it still had fruit. Was just curious thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinhunter12 Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Maybe not, wiseguy! (me) The second group of pics look NOT like apples????? Haha yes that's what fooled me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 This is from a few weeks ago. Apples for sure......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinhunter12 Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Looked like an apple tree to me, just when I looked at the size of the "apples" I was confused is all. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 It is a crab apple to be more precise. The long stem is the give away . Great late season food source and bitter as all heck until they freeze 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Do you know what color the fruit is normally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Do you know what color the fruit is normally? I have seen wild crabapples in both bright red color and also yellow. Also, there is something we call thornapples that have little apples on them. Unlike the trees pictured here, the thorn apples have huge nasty thorns that can do some significant damage to people ... lol. But, I'm sure everybody has seen those ugly critters and remember them well after coming in contact with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Looks just like the crab apple tree my mother planted on front yard Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 yea crab apple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trial153 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Crab apples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwood Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 This is a persimmon tree not an apple, crab apple or hawthorn as others guessed. This is native to new York and delicious. Deer obviously love it and will travel long distances to eat it. Fruits hang on into the winter providing a critical food source in lean times. Fruits can also ferment on the tree making for interesting wildlife watching. Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thphm Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Could also be an Autumn Olive,Deer Plum,Autumnberries , all the same tree by different names and deer love them, They produce fruit later then most fruit trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 This is a persimmon tree not an apple, crab apple or hawthorn as others guessed. This is native to new York and delicious. Deer obviously love it and will travel long distances to eat it. Fruits hang on into the winter providing a critical food source in lean times. Fruits can also ferment on the tree making for interesting wildlife watching. Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk that's what I thought it was, persimmons are like crack for deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I would have said Crab apple. But I'll buy persimmon . Don't know if I have ever seen them or realized I was looking at them. What color is the persimmon fruit when ripe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) I would have said Crab apple. But I'll buy persimmon . Don't know if I have ever seen them or realized I was looking at them. What color is the persimmon fruit when ripe? they go from orange to a burnt orange color as they ripen. it looks like a persimmon to me, but there are a few things that make me wonder. Persimmons are usually long gone by mid fall and i am used to seeing larger seeds Edited March 16, 2014 by Hardcore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinhunter12 Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thanks for the insight I appreciate it! I do believe it is a persimmon tree, because the size of the fruit. I researched this and the size of a persimmons fruit is appx the size of a quarter... Which is the size of the fruit I obtained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Well, I thought I was done with this thread, believing that the majority opinion was that your pictures were those of a persimmon tree. That was the case until I ran into a tree yesterday that was exactly the same as the one you have in your pictures. Check these pictures out: So, I got back to the house all excited that I had found a rare persimmon tree, and got on the net. Well actually I found that these are not persimmons at all. Not even close. The fruit is not close in size, shape, or stem configuration. In fact persimmons don't have a stem at all but rather a collar of leaf shaped features that attach directly to the tree. Check out the following picture: There all kinds of varieties of persimmons, but wild or domestic, they all have those same features. I also checked to see if these were left-over apples on a thornapple tree, but there were no thorns, and the bark, tree shape and size were not that of a thornapple. So after looking at a whole bunch of wild crabapple trees (there are over 700 varieties), I decided that it is indeed a wild crabapple. This year there has been a crazy phenomenon that I have never seen before, where some of the regular apple trees held onto the apples and refused to drop. They then froze on these trees, and even now are still hanging frozen and rotten on the trees. Apparently the same thing happened on some of these wild crabapple trees. Do not pay a lot of attention to the color, I looked at some domestic apples that are still hanging frozen on the trees and they are the same color, so apparently freezing and rotting cause them to take on that orange color. Anyway I thought it was strange that we just had a thread about these things, and I go out and run smack dab into the very same thing......lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) Well, I thought I was done with this thread, believing that the majority opinion was that your pictures were those of a persimmon tree. That was the case until I ran into a tree yesterday that was exactly the same as the one you have in your pictures. Check these pictures out: crabap01.JPG crabap02.JPG crabap03.JPG crabap04.JPG So, I got back to the house all excited that I had found a rare persimmon tree, and got on the net. Well actually I found that these are not persimmons at all. Not even close. The fruit is not close in size, shape, or stem configuration. In fact persimmons don't have a stem at all but rather a collar of leaf shaped features that attach directly to the tree. Check out the following picture: Nikitas-Gift-Persimmon-Tree-1.jpg There all kinds of varieties of persimmons, but wild or domestic, they all have those same features. I also checked to see if these were left-over apples on a thornapple tree, but there were no thorns, and the bark, tree shape and size were not that of a thornapple. So after looking at a whole bunch of wild crabapple trees (there are over 700 varieties), I decided that it is indeed a wild crabapple. This year there has been a crazy phenomenon that I have never seen before, where some of the regular apple trees held onto the apples and refused to drop. They then froze on these trees, and even now are still hanging frozen and rotten on the trees. Apparently the same thing happened on some of these wild crabapple trees. Do not pay a lot of attention to the color, I looked at some domestic apples that are still hanging frozen on the trees and they are the same color, so apparently freezing and rotting cause them to take on that orange color. Anyway I thought it was strange that we just had a thread about these things, and I go out and run smack dab into the very same thing......lol. I'd wrap a hunk of flagging tape around that tree and come back late summer and see just exactly what the fruit looks like and take some snap shots of it for the rest of the class for future reference. Same with the OP, more pics are in order!! Edited March 19, 2014 by Lawdwaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone Seeker Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 persimmon tree, I have one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Many people confuse persimmon with crab apple... my vote would be crab apple from what I've seen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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