growalot Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 To argue over the deer reg. changes...they are on hold until 2016 due to time constraints..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Read that yesterday. Great, now we can really fry that fish................................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Hope your right grow....they should have a check box for or against ARs at licenceing stations on the licence sight and ask every single licence purchaser to vote... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Oh boy, now we can get that one thread well over 100 pages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I think they just needed more time to read every post on the topic that has popped up on this site......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 LOL you know ...that quotw below... was code for Oopppsss...... Sheet hit the fan when word got out..... on hold until 2016 due to time constraints..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Saw the article in NY Outdoor News about no change until 2016 due to time constraints . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 Quote.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 i said not until 2016 and gave reasons in the state wide AR thread. some believed me and others just didn't want to listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Time constraints? How about the fact that 2015 is still covered under the previous 5 year plan? No changes, other than the ones the current 5 year plan outlines, would have been implemented anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Does this mean no full inclusion for crossbow in the 2015 archery season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) i said not until 2016 and gave reasons in the state wide AR thread. some believed me and others just didn't want to listen. You GUESSed as you capitalized that, some changes would be in 2015 and some in 2016. Dude you are so far out there i cant even comment further. Edited February 19, 2015 by phade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 You GUESSed as you capitalized that, some changes would be in 2015 and some in 2016. Dude you are so far out there i cant even comment further. lol.... I guess your buttons work. I'm sorry we disagree on some things. It's a forum on the internet. Breathe and it'll be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 lol.... I guess your buttons work. I'm sorry we disagree on some things. It's a forum on the internet. Breathe and it'll be ok. Has nothing about disagreement. You just said you were telling others you were right based on some implied inside connections and face it...you were not. You guessed wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Has nothing about disagreement. You just said you were telling others you were right based on some implied inside connections and face it...you were not. You guessed wrong. i was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 i was wrong.We all are from time to time. I do think you are right that aggregates will come first at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Any xbow changes for 2015? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Does this mean no full inclusion for crossbow in the 2015 archery season? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that "no changes" means no changes....but, like I said, I'm just taking a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 We all are from time to time. I do think you are right that aggregates will come first at some point. To me it seems like DEC has more of a direction or idea of how to split them up then the actual regs that would change what you can harvest. also the fact that you can't apply the rest (harvest changes) without the areas to apply them to. so I guessed if anything was to happen it'd probably be something like that first and maybe DEC would do it to start turning the wheel. In hind sight DEC probably would get little from doing that and kill a chance for minor tweaks from the pending surveys or other info. What little inside info I had was regarding harvest changes from those polls happening no sooner than 2016 due to the reasons in the article mentioned in the OP. To their credit what they said has been right. Outside that it's just my guess with things like the aggregates. with the way the article reads it seems I'm wrong about simply anything showing up in 2015 and maybe wrong all together in that it might all be published at once. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainHunter Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Time constraints sounds like a very weak explanation to me. Incredibly vague and can be applied to just about anything that didnt get done or that wasn't high on a priority list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Time constraints sounds like a very weak explanation to me. Incredibly vague and can be applied to just about anything that didnt get done or that wasn't high on a priority list. My take from the article was that they wanted an adequate amount of time to properly conduct and analyze public input on the ideas. With the publishing times being a set amount of time, the only way to shorten up the cycle time would be to short-circuit the public inputting activity. I am quite happy that they are not willing to do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainHunter Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 In fairness, I didn't read the article. If they were using the explanation in the context you are expressing then I respect that. Wanting to be considerate and thorough is admirable. I personally am not so trusting of the DEC or the majority of our political processes but that is my issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Yes, I can understand some trust issues when you're talking about any government body or agency. But I think in this case they are simply admitting that they blew it and didn't allocate adequate time for the process. That in itself is quite amazing that they would ever admit to being wrong about anything.......lol. That might even be a first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Time constraints sounds like a very weak explanation to me. Incredibly vague and can be applied to just about anything that didnt get done or that wasn't high on a priority list.Its legit imo. They have a short window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Does this mean no full inclusion for crossbow in the 2015 archery season? It probably has nothing to do with it, its a seperate issue all together. Crossbow legalization and implementation was not part of the current 5 year management plan, so its entirely possible it could happen at any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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