Presidential Sabotage?

[Rattler]

On 12/28/2016 at 8:35 PM, Uptown Redneck said:

Waiting for Obama to hit the lecture circuit where he will amass Clinton-like fortunes.  

Only because P.T Barnum was correct.  "There's a sucker born every minute."

You won't see any intelligent folks listening to his fairy tales.

 

[Rattler]

8 hours ago, Uptown Redneck said:

Obama screwing Trump at every chance he gets...

Mr. Obama intended to set up as many policy and ideological roadblocks as possible before Mr. Trump takes his oath of office on Jan. 20.

http://nyti.ms/2hDL8aM

So, in the future, we will be able to point to how the Clinton's left office screwing the taxpayers and all Americans, and prove it was not an aberration by pointing out how Obama did the same thing, only worse.  That should prove to all Americans, it's idiocy to ever elect a Democrat POTUS.  Let's hope we never see another one.

 

[Doc]

On ‎12‎/‎30‎/‎2016 at 11:12 AM, Uptown Redneck said:

I am eagerly awaiting the chance to enjoy the complete chaos and failure of the next four years under the a-hole administration of the new clown president. The next four years will set the new standard for incompetence as the nation and world will get to witness what a complete moron the uneducated, deplorable American voters elected to be their president. The world will now see what happens when idiots elect an idiot to lead them.    

Yeah, but now you have made it clear, and we all clearly understand what an anti-American jerk you are, so who really gives a damn what you think?

[bugsNbows]

On 12/30/2016 at 11:12 AM, Uptown Redneck said:

I am eagerly awaiting the chance to enjoy the complete chaos and failure of the next four years under the a-hole administration of the new clown president. The next four years will set the new standard for incompetence as the nation and world will get to witness what a complete moron the uneducated, deplorable American voters elected to be their president. The world will now see what happens when idiots elect an idiot to lead them.    

Sorry to burst your bubble... the world has been witnessing that for the last eight years. 

[Uptown Redneck]

On 1/2/2017 at 4:17 AM, Doc said:

an anti-American jerk 

Not sure how you get being Anti-Trump/Anti-Republican principals makes me anti-america. Trump and republican politics are simply opponents of what I believe in, wishing for their defeat/failure is no different then wishing the Yankees lose against the Mets or the Giants against the Cowboys.  

[Culvercreek hunt club]

26 minutes ago, Uptown Redneck said:

 wishing for their defeat/failure is no different then wishing the Yankees lose against the Mets or the Giants against the Cowboys.  

OMG!!! You are a Cowboys fan. That explains everything....just kidding. 

[philoshop]

3 hours ago, Uptown Redneck said:

Not sure how you get being Anti-Trump/Anti-Republican principals makes me anti-america. Trump and republican politics are simply opponents of what I believe in, wishing for their defeat/failure is no different then wishing the Yankees lose against the Mets or the Giants against the Cowboys.  

There's actually a lot more to it than that, and you know it. Trump's win has pulled the country back from the edge of Socialism. That's something every American should be happy about.

[Doc]

13 hours ago, Uptown Redneck said:

Not sure how you get being Anti-Trump/Anti-Republican principals makes me anti-america. Trump and republican politics are simply opponents of what I believe in, wishing for their defeat/failure is no different then wishing the Yankees lose against the Mets or the Giants against the Cowboys.  

Anyone who gleefully proclaims, "I am eagerly awaiting the chance to enjoy the complete chaos and failure of the next four years ...." is anti-American. You are eagerly awaiting 4 years of hard times for the American people. What the hell do you think it means? That is a statement that would be made by someone who revels in the failure of the U.S., and cannot be justified as being anything else.  I have no use for those that would wish "chaos and failure" on this country and then revel in it.

[GreeneHunter]

Don't forget everyone .... every thing that happens that people do not agree with during the next four years can be blamed on Obama .... right ?

[virgil]

Anyone who gleefully proclaims, "I am eagerly awaiting the chance to enjoy the complete chaos and failure of the next four years ...." is anti-American.

 

I agree with that statement completely.  But, I wonder if you felt the same about the GOP's stated goal before Obama even took office to ensure his failure in order to make him a one-term President.

[philoshop]

58 minutes ago, virgil said:

Anyone who gleefully proclaims, "I am eagerly awaiting the chance to enjoy the complete chaos and failure of the next four years ...." is anti-American.

 

I agree with that statement completely.  But, I wonder if you felt the same about the GOP's stated goal before Obama even took office to ensure his failure in order to make him a one-term President.

Not a valid comparison at all. Obama's stated intention was to "fundamentally transform America" into a Socialist nation. The Republicans said they were absolutely going to stand in the way of that at every opportunity. Trump's intent is to restore the Constitutional Republic and the Rule of Law on which this country was founded. His opponents seem to prefer the Socialist/Communist ideal, and are working to destroy the very foundations of our country. Which side of this are you on, anyway?

[virgil]

I'm on the side of the country.  I believe in giving the incoming President the chance to lead, whether you voted for him or not.

As far as this statement..Obama's stated intention was to "fundamentally transform America" into a Socialist nation.- I'm pretty sure Obama never said anything about 'a Socialist nation' and that you added that for effect(or, perhaps that's just what you assumed he meant)- which is exactly how the whole concept of opposition was pitched from the start of his term.

Edited January 5, 2017 by virgil

[philoshop]

31 minutes ago, virgil said:

I'm on the side of the country.  I believe in giving the incoming President the chance to lead, whether you voted for him or not.

As far as this statement..Obama's stated intention was to "fundamentally transform America" into a Socialist nation.- I'm pretty sure Obama never said anything about 'a Socialist nation' and that you added that for effect(or, perhaps that's just what you assumed he meant)- which is exactly how the whole concept of opposition was pitched from the start of his term.

I added it. But that's precisely what his intentions turned out to be. Some of us saw it a bit sooner than others and worked to correct that course from the start.

You're on the side of 'the country'. Would that be the Socialist side, or the Constitutional Republic side?

[Core]

On 12/28/2016 at 4:33 PM, Uptown Redneck said:

GO OBAMA GO!

Leave nothing but a giant mess for the incoming, incompetent clown president to clean up. Sabotaging the incoming fool would be a welcomed departing gift.  

So you want the president who is leaving to "sabotage" the presidency of the next one and leave a giant mess for the country.

Yet, you think the right are the crazy ones.

This is why I can't wait to see a republican oval, a republican senate, and a republican house summarily dismiss any and all concerns from the bleating and impotent left over the next few years. The left has shown it has no interest in being reasonable or negotiating, so it will be treated as it treated the right: badly.

Trump will wipe away tons of exec orders in no time at all, he'll put a youthful conservative into the supreme court within a couple of months. And that's just the beginning. Hold on to your hat, you've not seen anything yet.

If the left is going to act like babies they will sit at the kids' table and the adults will take the lead. If at any point you are willing to behave yourselves, you'll be welcomed back to the table with the adults where we use cutlery and keep our elbows off the table. But if you start throwing food and chewing with your mouth open, as you're doing, back to the kids' table and an early bed time.

Edited January 5, 2017 by Core

[Core]

20 hours ago, Uptown Redneck said:

Not sure how you get being Anti-Trump/Anti-Republican principals makes me anti-america. Trump and republican politics are simply opponents of what I believe in, wishing for their defeat/failure is no different then wishing the Yankees lose against the Mets or the Giants against the Cowboys.  

Because you said you hope obama sabotages the office of president and you can't wait to see the country go to hell over the next four years to prove you're right. I really don't know why you bother coming here. All you do is attempt to antagonize (you don't antagonize me because you're too predictable) people you clearly hold in poor regard. It's the very definition of trolling. Do you really not have anything better to do? Get a hobby or something.

[Core]

57% of dems are better people than uptown redneck.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/january_2017/57_of_democrats_want_trump_to_succeed

 

[Rattler]

Well, Obama is not one of those 57%.  You guys need to realize Obama thinks exactly like Uptown does.  That's why his entire 8 years has been a disaster.

[tuckersdaddy]

The conspiracy theories never end. This must explain Stephan Bannon's success with the simple-minded alt-right. 
Waiting for Obama to hit the lecture circuit where he will amass Clinton-like fortunes.  

Oh you mean set up a foundation to extract millions of dollars for accsess to his wife possible run in 2024? You know pay to play?

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[Rattler]

More like monkey see, monkey do.  He plans to do what the Clinton's showed could be done when the US DOJ allows it to happen.

Edited January 5, 2017 by Rattler

[philoshop]

I don't think PE Trump's cabinet, Attorney General Sessions in particular, are going to allow anything like the Clinton racketeering scheme. At least half of Obama's administration possibly has criminal indictments hanging over their heads. I can't wait to see who throws who under the bus if Sessions decides to pursue prosecution. It'll be like a rat hunt at the town dump, and those were a lot of fun for the shooters!

[Huntscreek]

1st off if Obama owned golf courses like Trump we would of never seen him. When I see Obama and people like redneck who want to sabotage the President elected, I say move to Europe. Your utopia awaits you, you Anti American Anti Police, Anti hard work, political correct socialists. America voted your ideology has been rejected, so move or move on.

Edited January 6, 2017 by Huntscreek

[virgil]

people like redneck who want to sabotage the President elected, I say move to Europe

Have you always felt this way?  Did you feel that way back in 2008?   And, please don't perceive my question as any defense for Uptown.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

1 hour ago, virgil said:

people like redneck who want to sabotage the President elected, I say move to Europe

Have you always felt this way?  Did you feel that way back in 2008?   And, please don't perceive my question as any defense for Uptown.

Virgil, For me I felt like crap in 2008. I knew his policies were contradictory to what I believed in. I knew I would oppose him in any fashion I could and speak out against them as well. I never felt like it would be wise to implement last minute actions to hurt the country prior to him taking office. In all honesty anything Obama tries to do know holds no water. He doesn't have the house or senate to pass anything so his only option is Executive Actions and those can easily be removed with a swipe of a pen once Trump is in. I have read a few articles that they are amassing a list of Obama's EA's to do just that. So it makes good news but it is all pomp and flair. Obama is a lame duck and short of starting a war in thee next 14 days, he's done. 

[Huntscreek]

Back in 2008 even though I didn't vote for Obama I still was willing to give him a chance. I dint beat Obama voters nor cry kick and scream Unlike the libs are now.Obama was in over his head from day 1 until now, anyone can see he left America worse off than the America he inherited. So Yup if you don't like America MOVE don't stay and incite riots and disrupt the election results. If Hillary was to have won I would of be in disagreement with her Ideology but at the end of the day she is President. Option to live under her would be mine but I would not act the Jackass as some do. 

1 hour ago, virgil said:

people like redneck who want to sabotage the President elected, I say move to Europe

Have you always felt this way?  Did you feel that way back in 2008?   And, please don't perceive my question as any defense for Uptown.

 

[Core]

I was fairly pleased when Obama won in 2008 for the same reason I was when Trump won in 2016. I hate the status quo. I hate being lied to. And I think the most important job in the country should be run competently. Bush was one of the worst presidents in US history, IMO, bungling the Iraq debacle up in spectacular fashion and, moreover, he lied about it to begin with. It should never have happened, and he should have been and still should be brought up on charges for it (along with his inner circle, which also lied pre-war).

So Obama was an outsider with little experience and not many connections and I welcomed that. I do hope we are not burned with Trump. So far it looks like we're not getting burned. Even now he's on his twitter account rather childishly mocking the governator over his apprentice ratings. And though this is not "presidential" behavior, it also tells me that trump is not likely to be bent and melded and reshaped like obama was into just another cog in the washington machine. 

We asked for a change with obama and we never got it. We asked for one with Trump and by golly so far he's giving it.