Doc Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 So now many states including our own are discussing whether or not to eliminate references to the Confederacy. So what do you think? Should we engage in a campaign of purifying history to remove things that we aren't all that proud of? Does it really serve any purpose at all to sanitize our history and eliminate all reminders of a time in history that we should all learn from? Would that not be like going to European countries, demanding that they eliminate all references to the Holocaust? As a matter of fact, that is what these Neo-Nazis do everyday when they deny the existence of the Holocaust, isn't it? It is all the same mindset of sanitizing history. So what do you all think? Is there truly a justification to tearing down statues and worrying about anything that reminds us of our civil war. Should we engage in cleansing history so that we feel better about our past? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Those who seek to erase their history are doomed to repeat it. These are counter intuitive actions on the part of the iconoclasts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangler Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 To start, first off I couldn't care less about ANY statue. And with that being said, why are generals and military leaders who waged a war against the government of the U.S, who today would be called "enemy combatants or terrorists, honored by having statues of them placed in public spaces? In what other country do they honor those who waged war against them? And another thing, how does removing a statue(s) equate to erasing history? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Wrangler said: And another thing, how does removing a statue(s) equate to erasing history? Islam destroys all evidence of pre, non-Islamic civilization in the lands it conquers. It seeks to erase any and all sense of a time before Islam. The reason for this is to ensure its cultural dominance. When you see people attempting to erase the past, it means the have plans for your future and don't want any resistance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangler Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Papist said: Islam destroys all evidence of pre, non-Islamic civilization in the lands it conquers. It seeks to erase any and all sense of a time before Islam. The reason for this is to ensure its cultural dominance. When you see people attempting to erase the past, it means the have plans for your future and don't want any resistance. Once again you fall back upon your tired and true hatred for Islam and fail to answer the question i asked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby68 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Destroying anything that points to our or anyone else's history is destroying the past. Without a past there can be no future. Not one race in the world can say they have a perfect or peacefully history. What they can do is look to the reminders of that history and remember. This is what keeps us from repeating our history. If our past is erased then we are doomed to repeat it. No one alive today was a slave nor did anyone alive today own slaves. So why continue to look as these things as symbols of it. Why not look at them as symbols of our history and how things changed. Which is what they are. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 Other than a statue of Saddam Hussein, I cannot recall any time when we made defeated countries tear down historical statues. And as I recall even Hussein's statue was destroyed by Iraqis, and not at the demand of the U.S. So why do we want to treat defeated regions of the current U.S. with more humiliation that we afford other countries? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diplomat019 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 i thought trump likes winners? why does anyone want to immortalize a losing general? Maybe more Ulysses Grant monuments in the place of Lee. Grant is a winner and we like winners. Lee is a loser and nobody hates losers more than our president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 This country was started as a place of freedoms..Yes slavery was not a freedom but,that said after having been allowed while a government constitution was being made allowing for freedom of speach, protection and the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness. Paraphrasing these organized writings,the confederate men and woman did exactly what they were taught they could do. They actually honored the government that was written for them. They voted to succeed. They then challenged the government for infringing on rights they had originally been given. They were patriots if you think about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 13 hours ago, Doc said: Should we engage in cleansing history so that we feel better about our past? Silently watching this issue to see how it goes. I bet when they start losing paid days off for "legal" holidays that were brought about by prominent history makers things will slow down. Give up Washington, Lincoln, and Martin Luther King days......Yeah right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Imagine my shock Woman Who Destroyed Durham Confederate Statue Is A Pro-North Korea Marxist http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/16/woman-who-destroyed-durham-confederate-statue-is-a-pro-north-korea-marxist/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACC Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Is this the same getting a scholarship? Sent from my SM-G900T3 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'm happy the left is focusing on statues that most never even knew about , it's way better then them working towards something that would effect my life . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 51 minutes ago, Larry302 said: I'm happy the left is focusing on statues that most never even knew about , it's way better then them working towards something that would effect my life . This is how they lay the foundations to controlling your future life. George Orwell was not a prophet. He simply retold what he saw the communists doing in Spain and elsewhere. Read his Homage to Catalonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg54 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 30+ years she has been in politics. Why all of a sudden does she want historical Confederate statues removed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuritransfer Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 So now many states including our own are discussing whether or not to eliminate references to the Confederacy. So what do you think? Should we engage in a campaign of purifying history to remove things that we aren't all that proud of? Does it really serve any purpose at all to sanitize our history and eliminate all reminders of a time in history that we should all learn from? Would that not be like going to European countries, demanding that they eliminate all references to the Holocaust? As a matter of fact, that is what these Neo-Nazis do everyday when they deny the existence of the Holocaust, isn't it? It is all the same mindset of sanitizing history. So what do you all think? Is there truly a justification to tearing down statues and worrying about anything that reminds us of our civil war. Should we engage in cleansing history so that we feel better about our past?No matter what the can't erase history we must accept and leave all statue alone Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/22/espn-pulls-announcer-robert-lee-university-virgini/NOT an Onion article. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 35 minutes ago, The_Real_TCIII said: http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/22/espn-pulls-announcer-robert-lee-university-virgini/ NOT an Onion article. Well...civilization was good while lasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 This amusing video from Scotland illustrates the absurdity of retro-actively attacking history. A few swear words sprinkled in, but appropriate given the content Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Stockton University removes bust of Richard Stockton, who signed the Declaration of Independence http://redalertpolitics.com/2017/08/29/stockton-university-removes-bust-richard-stockton-signed-declaration-independence/#1X3UMxyH1pyOUe1U.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 No history should ever be erased. It never helps anyone to just forget about the past. We don't need to celebrate some of it, but nothing should ever be erased. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugsNbows Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 This ^^^ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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