13BVET Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Looking for some opinions on what the DEC should do concerning the problem of coyotes. There is an article in today's Poughkeepsie Journal, as to where coyotes are becoming a problem in the Town Of Poughkeepsie. I know there was a petition going around at one time, requesting that all year hunting be allowed. What are your opinions on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet old bill Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Based on the number of fawn bones I found in our pasture I think they should be a open season on them. If you are in the woods and see one shoot it. Maybe even have a DEC bounty on them. Have the DEC put out chemicals to kill them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 DEC cant put out chemicals or poison, it would find its way to other animals. Poisoned dogs and cats, foxes, etc would go over like a fart in church. If a farmer or someone has a coyote killing their pets or livestock, they can shoot them at any time currently. I think they should be open all year round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 DEC cant put out chemicals or poison, it would find its way to other animals. Poisoned dogs and cats, foxes, etc would go over like a fart in church. If a farmer or someone has a coyote killing their pets or livestock, they can shoot them at any time currently. I think they should be open all year round. AgreeDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabin Fever Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Should be open all year, but I doubt it would do much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 A few select hunter's in our area, get together, for coyote hunts after Oct. 1st. They get quite a few each year. They seem to be good at what they do, because coyote numbers are held in check. Might be worth looking into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Per Section 11-0531 of volume 1 of the Environmental Conservation Law of New York: Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, or any other law, rule or regulation to the contrary, on and after July 1,1971, it shall be unlawful for any department or division of this state, or any political subdivision thereof to pay bounties on taking of wildlife, except when the state Department of Health, or any local health authorities determine that a given type or class of animals constitute a health hazard as carriers or potential carriers of disease. ---------------------------------------------------------- So as near as I can find, there is no legal way that coyote bounties could be levied except for reasons of health and public safety. However, for those that want a challenging version of hunting, and also a bit of minor income, I will point out that coyote pelts are worth a bit of money and a heck of a tough adversary that will challenge the best of us. We're all hunters. Let's go get a few of them. Also, for the trappers among us, I'll bet you don't need a bounty to make a few extra sets for coyotes. Go for it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp419 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Let me tell ya about hunting coyotes lol. Last year I started huntin them with hounds; Running Walkers. What a blast!! Ended up getting about 20 of them from Jan to Mar. Called in 7 and shot 5 of those. I think we, as deer hunters, owe it to the deer to shot as many as we can. Take some time in the winter and go coyote hunting. Nothin like shooting 2,3,4,5,6 coyotes in a day. I keep my trail cams out all summer. Last year I nethier seen or got pictures of many fanws at all. By shooting 7 coyotes out of the area last winter this year almost every doe has a fawn and there's numerous sets of twins. SHOOT COYOTES!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp419 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Oh, and now I got 2 hounds myself lol. A 2 yr old that's already kick ass on coyotes, and a pup that's is gonna kick ass lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erussell Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 There seems to be some controversy about whether or not coyote hunting effectivelly reduces the number of coyotes in a given area. I have read several articles about hunting operations who have found that yr round 365 days a yrs trapping program is the only way to effectively reduce the population, and they still lose several radio collared trophy bucks a yr. So if you see one in the woods by all means shoot it but it will not make a dent in the population. If you want to help deer the best time to put the pressure on the coyotes is in the spring during the fawning time. But with the increase of black bear and bobcats in most areas and now fisher also you probably still will not make much of a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdswtr Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Down to camp a couple years ago a dec officer making his rounds stopped into camp and we got talking about coyotes and he told us to have at it anytime as he would not and said most officers would not even blink an eye over it. Wish Icould of gotten him to sign on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 i think the bears are a worse problem than the yotes at least in my area.... i will be dropping a bear this year if its the last thing i do..... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erussell Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 i think the bears are a worse problem than the yotes at least in my area.... i will be dropping a bear this year if its the last thing i do..... > Think I'll have to agree with you on that one. I have only seen coyotes once where I hunt. I see Bear just about everytime I go out. Anyone know how they taste? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenders Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Bear taste really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 after the DEC came out to our goats being yanked out of the barn and eaten ...they told us if they'er near your pastures have at it...they also came back the next day and killed 7 15# roasting chickens(live weight) ...got them out of a 5 ft high fence...during the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Yea the bears can also put a hurting on your fruit and berry trees. I have had pine trees snapped in half. Last 2 0ut of 3 opening days for deer we saw bear we could of shot. Their time is up this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 How should they be dealt with? As the pest they are. Unprotected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Yote season isn't 24/7/365.....hmmmmmm...go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I'll be honest .... even if coyote season were open year around, I just can't picture myself out there in the summer months swatting mosquitos just to get a shot at a coyote. Not only that, but being raised as trapper all of my early years, there would be something almost sacreligious about throwing out a furbearer simply because it was shot at a time when the pelt is worthless because it isn't prime. I'm not sure I could really do that. I have a feeling that there is some of that sentiment behind the DEC's decision to put a season on them. On the other hand, I can relate to how other people feel toward coyotes. One thing to remember is that the coyote is at the top of his food chain with the possible exception of bears (where they exist). And most likely there probably has never been a bear that ever killed a healthy coyote. So there really are no natural controls on coyotes other than us and disease. Having everything kind of in the coyote's favor including only a small window of hunting time kind of negate's even us as a significant check to the population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Be careful what you wish for.. eliminate all the coyotes... or even drop the numbers dangerously low and there goes your coyote hunting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sits in trees Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Looking for some opinions on what the DEC should do concerning the problem of coyotes. There is an article in today's Poughkeepsie Journal, as to where coyotes are becoming a problem in the Town Of Poughkeepsie. I know there was a petition going around at one time, requesting that all year hunting be allowed. What are your opinions on this? shoot em.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sits in trees Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Let me tell ya about hunting coyotes lol. Last year I started huntin them with hounds; Running Walkers. What a blast!! Ended up getting about 20 of them from Jan to Mar. Called in 7 and shot 5 of those. I think we, as deer hunters, owe it to the deer to shot as many as we can. Take some time in the winter and go coyote hunting. Nothin like shooting 2,3,4,5,6 coyotes in a day. I keep my trail cams out all summer. Last year I nethier seen or got pictures of many fanws at all. By shooting 7 coyotes out of the area last winter this year almost every doe has a fawn and there's numerous sets of twins. SHOOT COYOTES!! nice work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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