Land Lease

[Liquidonyx]

I have a opportunity to lease around 100 acres of property for small game. The lease would be for 1 year with any small games species. I think the asking price is extremely reasonable for the listed species and the duration. 

Here are my question for the crew. Anyone ever lease property to hunt? How was the experience. Did you have some sort of written permission. The owner cold called me on another forum as we’re local to each other. I asked some generic questions. He’s a bit hesitant to give me the exact location because of trespassing. I just want to make sure we’re on the up and up. 
 

Thought I’d pick your brains. Let me know if you thinking I’m over looking anything.

Edited January 15, 2021 by Liquidonyx

[Versatile_Hunter]

6 minutes ago, Liquidonyx said:

I have a opportunity to lease around 100 acres of property for small game. The lease would be for 1 year with any small games species. I think the asking price is extremely reasonable for the listed species and the duration. 

Here are my question for the crew. Anyone ever lease property to hunt? How was the experience. Did you have some sort of written permission. The owner cold called me on another forum as we’re local to each other. I asked some generic questions. He’s a bit hesitant to give me the exact location because of trespassing. I just want to make sure we’re on the up and up. 
 

Thought I’d pick your brains. Let me know if you thinking I’m over looking anything.

You should certainly walk the property before committing to anything. If only for small game hunting, will others be hunting deer there? If so, will you be allowed to enter and hunt the property for small game during deer season?

[Liquidonyx]

6 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said:

You should certainly walk the property before committing to anything. If only for small game hunting, will others be hunting deer there? If so, will you be allowed to enter and hunt the property for small game during deer season?

Agreed. I’d be the only other hunter and as for deer season, I’d probably stay away during rifle season for the fear of blowing the land owner out. 

[Nomad]

I’ve never paid to hunt . If I had to I’d have my attorney write up,the contract , and I’d go at least five years , and I’ve have exclusive use 365 . Otherwise what’s the point .

Edited January 15, 2021 by Nomad

[Don_C]

The “do I need written permission” is a flag to me. Is it a real lease or someone offering property for cash with no contract? I was in a lease once that was very casual, nothing formal, it did not end well for us. Get everything in writing. What you are permitted to do, when you are permitted to do it and who else can be in the property, and when. Get specifics, beyond what you think are needed. IN WRITING.

 

 

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[mlammerhirt]

Agree with Don...get it all in writing. You can find leases online and taylor it to fit your situation.
1 year is good to start....guessing the landowner wants to make sure your a good fit. After that first year go for a multiple year lease.


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[suburbanfarmer]

Since its for small game only you will run into issues during Deer season, bow or gun. I would only lease it with the rule Nomad called out. Exclusive rights to hunt, maybe up the price and get permission to deer hunt it also.

[Liquidonyx]

5 minutes ago, suburbanfarmer said:

Since its for small game only you will run into issues during Deer season, bow or gun. I would only lease it with the rule Nomad called out. Exclusive rights to hunt, maybe up the price and get permission to deer hunt it also.

I was thinking the same thing about deer season. Maybe once the relationship is established the opportunity to expand to deer might be an option.

[JJBat150]

Wonder if there's already a big game lease signed for the property, and the owner is looking to "double-dip" by adding a small game lease.

If that's the case,  I'd walk away.

[Shoots100]

Since most small game seasons start the same day Deer bow season starts(Oct 1st), your not going to be able to use the land from then, until the end of December, after deer muzzleloader season ends.

Unless your hunting squirrel in Sept, your only getting a little over two months of small game hunting on the lease, if your not allowed to hunt it during deer season.

 

Edited January 15, 2021 by Shoots100

[Swamp_bucks]

I get maybe paying for a deer lease but for small game I would just hunt some stateland and save my money.  Especially once deer season ends you'll have thousand of acres to yourself.

Edited January 15, 2021 by Swamp_bucks

[virgil]

You should definitely have a written agreement.  There are templates available online if you do a google search.

[Liquidonyx]

3 hours ago, Swamp_bucks said:

I get maybe paying for a deer lease but for small game I would just hunt some stateland and save my money.  Especially once deer season ends you'll have thousand of acres to yourself.

That’s a very good point 

[Don_C]

I am curious, What kind of small game are you hunting that requires a lease? Is this place exceptional for grouse, rabbits or turkey?

[Liquidonyx]

4 minutes ago, Don_C said:

I am curious, What kind of small game are you hunting that requires a lease? Is this place exceptional for grouse, rabbits or turkey?

According to the land owner yes on good Rabbits and Turkey, with other various species.

[mowin]

It might be worth it for spring turkey, if he includes that. Otherwise, your leasing it from January till end of February.  

[Liquidonyx]

Hi Mowin!

He’s agreed to a year round lease from the date of agreement. So it could be from 1/15/21-1/15/22 depending on when we settle. 

There is also the benefit of location, almost all public with size is an hour in any direction. This is a roughly 20 minute drive. 

Edited January 15, 2021 by Liquidonyx

[mowin]

8 minutes ago, Liquidonyx said:

Hi Mowin!

He’s agreed to a year round lease from the date of agreement. So it could be from 1/15/21-1/15/22 depending on when we settle. The overall is just a bit over $2 per acres. I thought that was a fair price for year round.  

Not a bad price.  I don't think I'd pay more than that, and only if it held birds. But I'd definitely walk it first and see if it even looks like a decent turkey area.  Any fields, food plots? Either on the property or adjoining? 

Edited January 15, 2021 by mowin

[Liquidonyx]

1 hour ago, mowin said:

Not a bad price.  I don't think I'd pay more than that, and only if it held birds. But I'd definitely walk it first and see if it even looks like a decent turkey area.  Any fields, food plots? Either on the property or adjoining? 

Oh geez, I meant no turkeys...So, uhh...see you at 4:00am on 5/1?

[mowin]

7 minutes ago, Liquidonyx said:

Oh geez, I meant no turkeys...So, uhh...see you at 4:00am on 5/1?

Looking forward to it.