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Last night headed out to the stand around 2:30 looked like a good night overcast light rain/ sleet. Get to the stand 3:00 climb up hang my backpack up getting ready to pull my bow up and 4 doe walk in on me. Sat and waited them out finally left around 3:30. Pulled my bow up got setup finally 4:00 comes around hit the grunt call 3 times hear a crutch behind me look and there he was coming right in. Gave me a 20 yard shot ran 40 yards and dropped! First buck with my bow! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free

This is me in July this year with my grass roots group norhern new york freedom fighters with our repeal the safe act float in the parade. The nice looking lady next to me is my good friend Melody Burns conservative talk show host and emcee of a lot of safe act rallies in NY state Behind me is Steve Mclaughlin hopefully Republican conservative candidate for Governor in 2014 and a pic of the float

Connected with a doe this morning at 25 yards. Quartering away , entered liver, exited through both lungs. Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk

Boy I may get smashed here but I consider myself a meat hunter #1 goal for me is putting Venison in the freezer & on the table I don't care about points, Boone & crocket, Pope & young, age I determine what I will take from hunt to hunt personally I draw the line on spots & milk moustaches I do use every bit of the deer I can Liver is one I give away per pound venison is expensive (gear licenses ect...) we all have different ways of hunting & different goals I put no hunter down for the way they hunt as long as legal means were taken what they do with the animal afterwards is their business whether I like it or agree with it Ethics are at the top of my list but we have to face the fact that not all people are ethical

Take the stand and leave a note on the tree with your phone number. Tell them to call you to come and get it. That way, you know who it is and can explain things to them directly.

We're all hunters plain and simple. You can sprinkle whatever you want on it. It's still hunting.

After 9 seasons in the stand I finally got my first Buck after he tried to foolishly chase a doe. Got a nice 35 yard shot. Didn't travel more than 60 yards walking and pausing for a few seconds each time until he bedded down and expired. A nice 8 pointer, at least 3-3.5 years old and a minimum 160+ lb fully dressed out Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Welllll There you have it folks. Another exciting edition of "Real Hunters of New York State!" Tune in next week when we ask the "Real" question, "Standing or Stalking, Which is Really Hunting ?"

well hate to say this I have the best excuse yet I am 110# soaking wet I drive a Pontiac Grand Prix I shoot the little ones because I can drag them easier, they will fit in my Trunk & they taste the best I am going to hunt what I want how i want Legally & nobody is going to tell me different this thread is getting old funny but old so my sign on this thread is GONE HUNTING

Well, put me in the 10% then I guess. I would really prefer to NOT kill a buck and take does. If I could trade my buck license for another doe tag, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Much better taste IMO. If you want does culled out but you're only a horny hunter - give a shout - I'll take out the baldies if you've got the tags! As for people who let the meat rot/go to waste; they should be hung by their heals and fed Ex-lax! (think about that... ) There are PLENTY of people out of work who would LOVE to have that to feed their families! Don't know anyone like that? You're lucky! But there are plenty of programs that will take donated meat, Feed The Hungry comes to mind. You want to shoot animals and just let 'em go to waste, take up yote hunting. No excuse for landowners either! Have a deer problem? Have N tags? I guarantee if you put the word out there will be more guys at your door begging for the tags then you could count and who will USE the animal vs wasting it. Alaska has the right idea regarding the wasting of game meat.

Geez the poor guy just asked a question. LOL Why all the tough stuff at him. But while we have our thinking caps on: Hey how about soaking them cotton balls in doe urine and use your grunt call like a blow gun to shoot them out of. LOL Just don't try a snort wheeze or you might suck one into your lungs. lololol

i guess i am a meat hunter . i eat whatever i get . sometimes i dont get anything but i am lucky to have a brother-in-law and sister that always seam to get a deer . i love to just be out there in the woods . i remeber one day it was raining and i came over the top of a knoll and there stood a big buck ,i got him in my scope and all i could do was watch him .to see him shake every little drop of water off himself was awesome .it was like slow motion . i put my gun down and watched him . i think he was the one i was suppose to have on my wall but i let him walk away . i have never seen another that big . i dont think i ever will. but what i do get i eat . sorry i went off course lol . that happens with me lol. yes i am a meat hunter.

That's a deer walking across the cam up close.

I hunt because I enjoy the outdoors, the sport, and the table fare it provides. What I harvest is no ones business, I don't brag about the bucks I shoot and I've been very blessed with what hunting has provided me over the 30 years in the game. I will go out of my way to congratulate any other ethical hunter on a legally killed animal. I was brought up not to judge others' decisions (in life or sport) and my other hunter friends know that. With that said they will never judge what I decide to harvest. Yes, I fill my freezer every year with a fine animal. It's my choice if I decide to let a young deer pass buck or doe and it's my family that will be eating the animal not the person who is passing judgement in what I harvested. At the end of the day just do it the way you feel is right, ethical and legal.

No worries my man. I have no problems with what you say...just pointing out the obvious ridiculousness of this thread classifying hunters, which really doesn't do anything for us in a positive light. You hunt, I hunt, that is all that really matters.

This thread is deplorable...bunch of whiners on all fronts. Usually this is a thread for August before the season starts, not when everyone is supposed to be out ACTUALLY hunting...

I am a hunter. If deer did not have meat on them I would not hunt them. I guess that would make me a meat hunter. I was raised to use every game animal/fish the best you can. As in you do not leave it laying in the woods! As others have posted their are many people out there on tough times that would certainly take a tagged deer to feed their families. Someone who does not do all they can to make that happen and leave it to rot well it may be legal but not someone I would want to associate with. Just because it is legal does not make it right. I also do not shoot the biggest doe out of a bunch. Did that once and I believe shooting the matriarch doe can screw up future deer patterns for a long time. I could also cook a 2.5 year old doe and a 2.5 year old buck tenderloin on the grill with minimal spices and such and I would bet no one could tell the difference in them. Now I have had .5 year olds, hey shit happens! And that is the best piece of meat walking around out there! Myself at this stage of my hunting career all fawns and 1.5 year old bucks get a pass. And maybe some 2.5s as well. That is my choice I have been through the get your first stage and the get a lot of anything stage. I have done both and enjoyed the heck out of it as anyone else should. I will say if I have no meat in the freezer and it is the last week 1.5 years old will get shot! Horns and tags eat like shit. Generalities just get you in trouble. I would not say a 1.5 year old buck is any dumber than a 12 point 5.5 year old buck following a hot doe! I like a big buck as much as the next guy but not my top goal. All this deer size, gender, age and success also is relative to where you hunt, how much you hunt and what your goals are. Everyone has their own situations and goals.

I'd center punch one of I saw it... We don't need them here.

If you have 1.5's amd 2.5's that look like that I want to be your new best friend.

check out thirshand archery. the stablizer straps tie the top and bottom together and stabalize the top section while your standing

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A little more than 100,000 bucks are killed by over 600,000 hunters every year. That is less than a 20% success rate. So 90% of the the hunters that have a few years in the field are running around not able to properly clean their nose.

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Your putting deer on a pedestal. What would you do with a fox or coyote that you shot that didn't want to mount? A coyote is a lot tougher to kill than a whitetail deer. If somebody wants to leave deer in the woods, that's their choice. I don't do that, but its not my place to judge. I left squirrels in the woods that I shot with a pellet gun as a kid. Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2

Yep, flower 'em up and fry 'em - good stuff. Also go well in spaghetti sauce believe it or not.

I'm not sure if you are missing this point, but squirrels are very much edible. I have shot nuisance squirrel before (legally, in season) and we ate them. They were fantastic. We ate all the meat... The chickens got the offal and the crows got the rest. Not a speck wasted.

that makes sense to you? you would have to be a complete idiot or waste of life to shoot a deer, tag it and leave it there for bait... thats my 2 cents

That's not how I pictured pygmy at all. I pictured him like 80 years old with a white beard Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2

Leasing should be more than just a handshake and an exchange of money......make sure it's spelled out on paper. This may turn some landowners off, but it should be done. If you want exclusivity to the property for everything during the season, get it in writing.

I'd say 1.5 and probably 15" gross...or are you talking about the stud in the background? haha

This is not an accusation or judgement of up hill shooters- Lets also not forget the "know your target AND BEYOND" rule with up hill shots - was she on the top of a peak and you were below? Impossible to know what's on the other side of the mountain if she jumps the string or the shot is missed high if our physics are wrong(I know mine would be) - be safe first. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free

I hunt because of the following: 1)relaxation and stress relief 2)fill the freezer with healthy organic meat 3) challenge myself to get one nice size buck

My vote is this...with Liger being a close second

Miley Cyrus twerkin the poplar?

My guess woud be porcupines

This must mean that I am a meat hunter then. Because up till last year it didn't matter if it was a spike or an 8 point buck it was shot and cut up and put in my freezer. That also went for does also. The recent change in my area of 40 (Delaware county) of an antler restriction of 3 point on 1 side put a damper on what bucks I am allowed to shoot. Luckily my father in law owns land in Otsego county so I can still try to fill my freezers. I bow hunt,rifle hunt and muzzleloader hunt and it is NOT brown is down thinking of hunting. A doe with this year's fawns I will let walk because I want her to get those fawns thru the winter so will be more deer next season. A lone doe I'll shoot. Every animal I shoot doesn't go to waste. Not with a family of 4 kids and 2 adults. I raise 2 hogs every summer and a beef cow/steer. Have 3 freezer to fill, and 1 is just for deer and small game ( turkey, rabbit, grouse, pheasant and fish ). We grow a garden and can and freeze what comes out of it and make jellies and jams from berries we pick. Some people might calls backwoods or hillbilly, If I am so be it, but I was raised that way and am sure some of you were raised the same way. Guess I am saying that there is not a thing wrong being a true meat hunter if you are going to use it.

Any one have any tp cause this thread is gonna need it I bet. I am a hunter, no other descriptive words needed.

My first traditional archery deer harvest...15 yard shot, beautiful double lung hit. I was using a 50 lb bear grizzly and muzzy phantom bh. I Couldn't be happier!!

I went hunting with a buddy last Sun. to some state land I found and he and I had checked out a few months ago.Never hunted there before Sun.I found a nice patch of pines mixed with hardwoods and lots of branches to hide me near a cornfield.I climbed a pine with my climber and was really happy about the spot I had found.About 4:30 I saw a doe and 2 younger deer heading towards the corn about 75 yds. out.Hmm,maybe next time I should move over there I thought. At about 5:45 I looked over my right shoulder behind me and saw a deer on the trail only about 30 -40 yds from me.It was browsing on the leaves and when it moved I saw it had antlers.I tried to turn 180 degrees but I wouldn't have been able to draw my bow and the buck was now walking toward me.I froze and watched to both my dissapointment and amusement as the buck walked through the brush and right to the tree I was in and started eating more green leaves and possibly smelling the tree I was in.Boy was I glad I didn't drop my pull rope back to the ground like I usually do ! I literally could have spit on him.He stayed there for several minutes and I hoped he wouldn't smell the pepper venison sticks I had eaten on the ride there.Finally things went my way and fatty basket buck started walking to my left still oblivious that I was about 12 feet above him.I started to raise my bow,bumped it on the armrest (oops) and when he was at about 5 yds. I got the right pin on him and heard a voice in my head say "aim low".I pulled the release,heard a loud "whack" and watched the buck jump and take off running in an arc through the woods.The sound of breaking sticks and branches sounded like a heard of cattle going through.I found half the arrow with the 100 grain fixed broadhead attached covered in blood 10 yds. from where I shot the buck.The blood trail was not good so with the wet leaves I decided to walk slowly and see if I could see him.About 50 yds. from my stand I saw a white belly and cautiously approached with an arrow nocked.He was dead with the fletching half of the arrow inside his ribcage.The arrow went in behind the shoulder,broke a rib and exited in front of the opposite shoulder/low neck.Lots of internal bleeding.This was only my second buck ever taken with a bow and the first with my new Bear bow, I will remember it for a long time and so will my buddy because he helped me drag it back to his truck in the dark.I love bowhunting .

Sadly, yesterday was my first day out bowhunting for the season! Stupid work schedule. Although, I will say that early season hunting by me is crappy. The deer are completely nocturnal until about end of October anyway. Small 8 Video.MOV I enjoyed watching this small 8 point for 30 minutes though. Could have plugged him at 11 yards.

I agree. I think hunters are so worried about dividing everyone into categories and knocking eachother because some hunt differently than others it weakens us as a group. All hunters need to stick together. Fighting amongst ourselves is exactly what the antis want.

Well, I seem to be having a bit of a problem git'n-er-done this year. There's an awful lot of "almosts", but no deer down yet. So this thread has brought to mind the most perfect excuse for my failure so far this year and I believe I am about to join in and use it this year. My official position right now (and current excuse for failure at this point of the season) is that "I will shoot no deer before it's time". I am holding out for a book buck, Oh let's say a minimum of 150 or 160. Oh sure there were a lot of "lesser" deer that I could have shot but due to my superior hunting prowess, I cannot lower my standards to shoot anything less than 4.5 years old. I want to see that severe sway in the back and a toothless, nearly blind buck that is stumbling through the woods suffering from old-age. A man has to have his standards ....right? There, how does that sound? Pretty convincing eh? Heck I can justify years of going scoreless with that line ..... lol. What the heck .... when the going gets tough, just raise your standards to the point where you can easily and believably justify failure.... Sorry couldn't help myself ..... The devil made me do it! I have noted some great examples of "implied bragging" (well some of it goes beyond implied .... lol), and I think it is all pretty funny. But I am beginning to see the usefulness of it all now.

Nice job on the photoshop. Now I can focus in with my bifocals. Yep, he's got a rack, LOL.

I'm kind of a fitness guru so I figured I would chime in. When I got my first job out of college I was sitting at a desk for 60 hours each week and I would go party at night. I quickly became overweight and also took up smoking. I needed to get out of the rut so I signed up for a 5K. 15 years later I have competed in multiple marathons and triathlons including a full Ironman distance (hence the name IronBucks!). Lessons I learned: 1. Keep it simple and keep it fun. 2. Set specific and attainable goals. If you are walking a mile now, your goal might be to increase to a mile in a half or to drop your mile time. 3. Keep adjusting your goals when you hit them and set the bar higher. 4. Exercising is only one part of getting more fit, diet is the other. You don't have to drop everything at once and go cold turkey! Ease your way into it by slowly cutting out carbs or slowly start moving from white bread to wheat, etc. Cut out the late night snack, etc. My father lost 15 pounds in 2 months by just not eating a row of Oreos before bed. 5. Don't be afraid to take a day off. If you are just exhausted from work, sick or you are hurt, you can do more harm than good so take an OCCASIONAL day off. 6. When you hit your goals, treat yourself to a cheat day on the diet or give yourself some kind of reward. 7. If you do want to be in better shape for walking with the weight of a gun or a day pack, I would suggest practicing with a pack and having some weight in it. 8. Mix it up. Don't just do the daily walking, do something different occasionally...most anything that will get your heart rate up will help to increase your fitness (get your minds out of the gutter). 9. Drink water while your exersizing. Most people get muscle cramps and injuries because they are not hydrated. Good luck! Feel free to PM me...

You don't need to know the rules , you need to know about ethical hunting .

Italian dish? lol

maybe you're just someone who likes to kill things, and not a hunter at all.........................

I dont think a meat hunter and the brown its down club are the same. I think the brown its down club just wants to kill numbers of deer. The meat hunter wants to fill the freezer, That most likley wont be a 50lbs fawn.

just some insight, a 5 yard shot at 15 feet, i personally would hold high lung to top of the the lung and come out somewhere where the pit is on the off side. thats how low the arrow would exit. not critiquing, just giving you some insight. when they say shot placement is key, its all distances especially the close ones. knowing the path your arrow is going to take is something you have to imagine in your head. those shot simulators are good educating tools

I wait it out if need be or carry a coyote call and sound off a time or two. That gets the moving without being an unnatural thing.