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Felt good to shoot the cobwebs out of the ol' gun!

Here's one of the 8s. All 4 are walking all around me fighting everywhere they walk. Even when I can't see them I can hear them

Good luck!

Thanks guys. Had my father and I swapped stands I'd have a nice picture for y'all. Unfortunately we didn't and his standards are much higher than mine. At the end of the day I wasn't in the office and the father son time on a beautiful morning was great. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I know it's a bit unusual, but I made a slice thru my own ear years ago to zip tie the filled out tag to while I am dragging the deer out. This way I know I won't misplace it or lose it and it will be readily available if I am stopped by a DEC officer. When I finish the dragging I cut it off and put another zip tie thru the deers ear along with the tag. I can make the slice in your ear for you, if you are squeamish about doing it yourself. I promise it won't hurt (too much).

My first experience with Deer Heart was less than an hour after the Buck had been shot. Straight to the cast iron skillet with butter, S&P and Garlic. Freakin Delicious. I have pickled it as well, tastes great as a sandwich in camp.

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No firearms while bowhunting.

To small for me lolPassed up one of the 8s and the 4 at 20 yards this morning. Have to hold out and see what's around

I'm right here. Been too busy. "Mock scrapes" work very well indeed. But, I have been fooling with them since the early 80's...and have learned a few things through trial and error. I have killed a bunch of bucks and does coming into them and standing under the Overhanging Branch. Yes, I am obsessed with them and have a hard drive full of videos and photos of bucks and does at my zip-tied scrapes. I prefer to call them zip-tied scrapes because the emphasis is on the branch...not the pawed up area on the ground. Without the overhanging branch, the scrape does not exist. The ground scrape, the pawed up soil is only ancillary...a by product, and not important. Urine is not important. If you want to enhance a scrape...forget urine. Wear out some boot rubber and find some hot scrapes, snip the overhanging branch, put it in a plastic garbage bag, and zip-tie it to the scrape you are hunting over. That's all you need to do. Many commercial urines (or whatever they put in the bottles) have ruined uncountable scrapes for me. However, I have killed some nice bucks when using them...but for every buck I killed over a scrape using lures...five of them have "gone dead." I have 8 trail cams on zip-tied scrapes now on three different hunting properties, miles apart. Things are beginning to heat up. Notice the "bouquet" of zip-tied branches this buck is hitting on Monday 10/6/14.

Although my notes from each day are very extensive, I'll try to keep this as short as possible: 9/30/14: Flew with my Dad from NYC to Denver to Casper where we were picked up by Lee Iberlin (http://www.iberlinranch.com/page-index.html). Lee is in his young 20's and just began offering guided hunts a few years ago. His family has over 70,000 acres of private property loaded with Mule Deer and Antelope. He is also a fly fishing guide on the world famous North Platte River. We sighted in our rifles and took a quick ride around on his property before dark and saw a bunch of Mule Deer and Antelope. 10/1/14 - 10/4/14: We hunted mule deer as our top priority since me and my Dad both had tags. I also had an antelope tag but didn't care to worry about them until we got nice mule deer. Opening day (10/1/14) rained pretty much the whole day, but we still saw lots of bucks but nothing quite worth shooting. Day 2 (10/2/14) we saw some better quality bucks in the morning, but still not quite what we wanted so we held out. The afternoon brought a cold front with 45mph winds and snow, so we didn't see much later in the day. Day 3 (10/3/14) we woke up to a couple inches of snow but clear skies and saw a ton of bucks. At 1030am we spotted a group of 5 bucks in a draw, one of which was a nice 4x4. I was willing to take my chances and pass him up. My Dad thought hard on it and decided he wanted him. We made a good stalk playing the wind perfectly. My Dad shot him at 125 yards while he was feeding and had no idea we were above him on a hill. He turned out to be a nice 4x4 with brow points, so 10 scoreable points. He was 20" wide with nice forks. Later that day I shot an even better 4x4 with brow points, again 10 scoreable points. Mine was 21" wide but with better mass and better forks. My buck was with 2 other nice bucks, but I definitely shot the best one. We stalked from 500+ yards to 140 yards when I shot him with a quick shot as him and the other bucks were staring right at us. This was the first day ever that my Dad and I both shot bucks on the same day, so that was pretty cool. Day 4 (10/4/14) I held out all day before shooting a great antelope at 5:15pm at 180 yards. I was fine going home without an antelope unless I saw a really special one. This one turned out to be 14" with exceptional mass (close to 7" in some spots) and great cutters (just under 6"). I'll get him officially scored someday down the road, but I think he is mid to high 70's (B&C is 80" awards, 82" all-time). All in all it was a great trip considering we had bad weather 1 1/2 to 2 out of the 4 days. We saw tons of bucks and saw lots of mule deer bucks sparring and fighting with each other. The antelope were in rut and chasing does like crazy. Amazing how fast they can cover a lot of land. Lee knows his property like the back of his hand, he knew every draw to check, had to play the wind perfectly, etc. I'll definitely be heading back in 2 or 3 years to hunt again with him. Maybe next time with the crossbow in an attempt to get a velvet mule deer. If you are looking for a reasonable hunt out west, I definitely recommend Lee. By the way, the lodging in the ranch house was great (my Dad and I each had our own bedrooms). The food/drinks was also great. Lee's girlfriend was a great cook and host. Enjoy the pics- I did the best I could with my iphone and little digital camera.

Losing track.. Are we still discussing blinds or GF demands or getting her "turned on"..? Of course you're talking about getting her interested in hunting, right? lol

Note to self: Do not meet any of Pygmy's relatives. Cool vid though

He's a RINO and was no friend to gun owners or sportsman in NY when he was the Gov. I'll pass.

my first deer, i dont have a kill shot full body so ive provided a trail cam picture.

THere's a pre-punched hole in the corner of the tag. I use a zip tie and attach it to a notch I cut in the ear.

I've heard that the kidneys are good, but you have to boil the piss out of them...

Back at it for 2014! We will be down 2 players this season. Zach is attending University of Arizona so he is out of site but not mind. Eric who joined us last gun season (my nieces husband is still overseas serving) won't be home until december. We are changing it up and only doing two long trips, 1 for bow and 1 bow/gun this year. 5 days starting Oct 17th and 6 days starting Nov 13th. Too many commitments this year to get away every other weekend. Fields are still in corn and we have two nice plots full of clover. I haven't been up to check cams in a month so I don't know whats going on. Good luck all hunt safe, hunt smart!

For I passed several cars and trucks with deer strapped to the roofs and in the beds...couple of nice buck and a couple of doe...It really was a perfect morning......I'm headed out in a bit my self...

No spiders,just some "web" shots.

Had in interesting encounter this morning that i thought id share. Got an ASAT coat and matching pants this year because i liked the idea of the open pattern and im 6'1 300# so i stick out in a tree. I had two doe come in this morning behind me, and the lead one picked off my movement when i turned around. I stood there in the tree 25 yards from them for 20 minutes as they stared right at me. Stomping there feet, walking around to get a different view, while looking up my tree but they couldnt identify me. It was like they could see my movement, but couldnt pick me off. They ended up just walking away. May have to pick up some cold weather gear, this pattern seems to work.

I think that when you say "drippers"...it could mean any old scent...Not that you didn't do due diligence in getting the best you could...but somebody did the math on how many bottles are sold by some companies....and it is incredible how many gallons of deer pee they got...and it is diluted. So many varibles. I am not saying that all deer pee is bogus...just that it's a crap shoot. And you might ruin your best chance at a brag buck this season. Just sayin'. Forget all the gizmos as Sam says. But boot rubber. Get in the woods, out of the tree, find scrapes. Scout. Snip the branches and augment your setup. Have to do it quickly now...because their patterns will be established.

OK, it's a bit difficult, but I'll respect your wishes.

Very interesting John, but like they say, "if you give a man enough rope..." What I like about zip-tied branches from other scrapes is...it's simple. Find a hot scrape somewhere else, cut the branch, zip-tie it to the scrape where you want it. No muss, no fuss, - and no "hanging ropes" in the woods. After some of the big bucks I've missed, I don't want to be tempted! Though some people might encourage me to try it!

Good thinking, LMAO! I like to use my "butt-out" tool to pull the cork on my deer..., then I'll tuck my tag where the sun don't shine and put the plug back in to keep it safe!

I've never used the zip-tie method. I've found that the most important thing is providing an overhanging branch at the right height (40" or so) and don't leave your scent all over it. Also, it needs to be in a conspicuous place, like along a field edge or logging road. I also like to make "live" licking branches by one of two methods: 1) find a 3-4" sapling growing about 10' back from your intended scrape spot, climb the sapling until you can bend it over and then wire or tie it to a tree so the top of the sapling becomes your licking branch. 2) If there are overhanging branches that are too high for deer to reach, grab one of the higher branches (7-8' up) and bend it down (without breaking it) and wire or tie it to one of the lower branches so it is angled almost straight down. With either method the branch or tree stays alive and becomes a perennial scrape spot. Here's a clip of a buck my Dad shot under a mock scrape I made by bending over a sapling in 2008. That scrape is still in action 8 years after I made it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEH8nK8BeFQ Mock rubs are also a blast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI-w-M2fXr8

i carry a bag in my pack for the heart, goes great with eggs and bacon=) i wouldnt go back for it though

I hunting Reservation land with a good friend of mine, some years ago. I needed to meet the chief and get his written permission what day (s) I would be on my friends land along with a NYS hunting license, not that it was needed, because it's not part on NYS., but I believe he wanted to know I had the experience. I also carried my NYS hunting license, just in case for my sake. I also knew a lot of friends on the reservation, which may have helped my chances.

wheres the video?? the office is boring lol

Have a good one and enjoy the new x-bow! Ooops, I slipped.... make sure you act surprised!

While this doesn't give a specific answer to your question: from: http://www.eregulations.com/newyork/hunting/access-to-hunting-areas/ From this, it would seem the answer to the question lies in the specific tribal land in question.

That overhanging branch is key! I've been making and using mock scrapes for years. It's my favorite place for trailcams and have gotten many great videos over mock scrapes! Love seeing how the deer interact with the overhanging branch! Even though the scrape itself doesn't appear freshened, it certainly does not mean it hasn't been visited! Only a small percentage of bucks freshen the scrape itself, but they all seem to give some love to that overhanging branch!

Another peaceful sit, not bothered by a single deer! Ouch on the binocs! I could never wear them. I keep in pack within close reach. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hahaha! Duct tape fixes everything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hey guys there's something you all need to be aware of with your DMP's. If your DMP's are printed on the new paper they maybe miss align to the top, so the doc number of the second dmp is above the perforation is on the bottom of the first dmp. DO NOT CUT THEM to separate them. I notice this problem on my dmp's. I was just going to cut them to separate them just above the doc number then I notice if I do that I would not be able to cut out some of the day numbers on the back of the dmp. So I called the DEC at Region 8 and was told to have at lease the one with the miss alignment reprinted. So I went to the town clerk office to have them reprinted and they said I would to have cut them. I called the DEC back and told them what I was told by the clerk. DEC called Albany and got back to in less then 30 min. YOU NEED TO HAVE THEM REPRINTED YOU CAN NOT CUT THE NUMBERS OFF THE BOTTOM OF THE TOP DMP. I would check all my tags carefully if they are printed on the new paper.

Epic miss a fatty doe was literally sniffing the tree I'm in, she noticed something was not quiet right took a couple steps away presented me with a perfect under ten yard broadside shot. When I shot the string caught the two hundred dollar binoculars I borrowed from my father in law and ripped them in half. O yeah did I mention he bought me a pair for Christmas last year but I liked his better so I haven't returned them yet! FML!! "All your hobbies are money pits" - Wife

for bow as well? Or mainly with gun?

The next three days are suppose to be perfect....I'll be out this afternoon for sure....25 turkey strolled through the field again this morning and cam pics show 17 down at one of the stands in the afternoons...not even a spike has shown in the usual spots...trying another area tonight.

One other thing to check is deed restrictions. While not very common for the situation you describe, they do exist. Deed restrictions apply to a individual property and can prohibit or limit things like trailers (or even hunting).

lol Sure, I can laugh about it now but I thought I was a goner then. I'm surprised every time I broke wind for a week after, my family did not hit the deck for cover!

her wedding gift to you.

The part couple of years I've been.filling.it.the tage and sticking.it in.the deers mouth I've also suck.it inside of the ear and wrapped a zip tie around the ear closing the ear do the trade can't come out

it's a pretty simple concept that's spelled out in the regulations, why it needs to be debated is beyond me, much like any other question that can be answered by reading the reg's............

Howdy gentlemen. Made it to the site, put my intro up in the newbie section. I would be more than hapoy to help answer any questions anyone has about using deer calls or custom calls in general. I am just a regular member right now, and not a paid sponsor, so any questions about my personal calls such as ordering and the likes, please contact me privately. I do not want to be seen as a spammer of the site. With that said, I will go back through this thread and try to answer some questions from my personal perspective. Thanks to everyone who has invited me here and admin for having me along for the ride.

There have been too many over the years, but one of my classics almost (probably should have) landed me in the emergency room. It was late in the muzzle loader season, and I had been working so much I had little time in the field. On one of the last days I managed to get my work done with time enough to allow my hour drive home, a quick change of clothes, and the last hour on stand. I raced home, left my truck running in the driveway, and over my dress clothes I pulled my insulated bibs and put on my wool coat. I grabbed my muzzle loader, jumped in my truck and drove across the back lot to my parking spot. Once there, I climbed out of the truck, loaded my muzzle loader and hurried to my old rotted out “camper stand”. I climbed in and sat on my plastic bucket. Peering across the field to where the scrub apple orchard begins I prided myself on how my plan had come together. After a fews moments though I began to listen to and feel my stomach rumble. In order to get done in time to allow this late afternoon hunt, I had skipped lunch and was now suffering the consequences. Then it occurred to me that I just might have something stashed in my jacket pocket. Fumbling around with my right hand while still watching the field, I discovered about a third of a left over Payday candy bar. I have no idea how long it was there, and to be honest didn't care. A little lint and grit was nothing compared to the gurgling. So with just a slight side glance, I peeked at it as I lifted it into my mouth. I was pretty happy at the salty sweetness of the linty peanut treasure I had discovered. As I slowly chewed and swallowed the candy, I briefly felt something odd with my tongue, then bit down on what I though was a filling that the candy just dislodged. Upset over losing a filling, I placed my hand to my mouth and spit the rest of the candy into my right hand to take a look. My emotion went from upset to pure panic when I discovered what I thought was a filling was not. What I had bitten down on, and no doubt swallowed in an undetermined number, was my 209 primers! The sticky candy was in the same pocket with a bunch of loose primers that had fallen out of their little box. Totally freaked out, deer hunting be damned. I jumped from my seat and standing in the field I began sticking my finger down my throat trying to make myself puke. Unable to do so because I had not eaten all day; I then ran to my truck and drove back to the house with my mind racing with the thought that at any moment a primer might go off in my guts. Back at the house I told my wife what happened as she stood there trying to keep me calm but clearly concerned as well. I began guzzling water straight from the kitchen sink faucet and eating everything in the cupboard to get something in my stomach. I was then able to make myself throw up to the point I was dizzy and my voice was hoarse. I wanted badly to call the ER or poison control but was afraid and pretty darned embarrassed, so instead I sat in my lounge chair all night drifting in and out of sleep. By morning, I still had not exploded or died so I got ready for and went to work. At work I did share with my doctor friend and nurses what had happened, and they went hysterical saying such things only could happen to me. Needless to say; there has never been another candy bar in my hunting coat since! This incident could have added a whole new meaning to shooting off my mouth!

Thanks again to everyone. This time we did not bring any meat home. Only the capes and antlers/horns. 2 years ago, we tried bringing back some backstraps and of course those boxes didn't make our connecting flight and the meat spoiled. This time, we gave the meat of all 3 animals to our guide, who kept some for himself and gave the rest of it to the guys who work on his ranch. It was a win-win for everyone since we didn't have to pay for butchering and they got a bunch of meat for free and were very grateful.

The problem shouldn't be ours to fix. None the less check them, I do not rip my tags apart before use, so I have no idea if there is an issue. Even if it is, I'm not going to have them reprinted, that is their issue not mine. I only have one DMP, so they are all connected anyways. As a side note, since we have to have the bag tags on, why in gods earth would they make then "Camo" color? If I had an issue with a trespasser and I'm trying to take a picture, these dark camo tags make it useless. And to top it off, the new website is horrible. / rant over. P.S. thanks larry for reporting this just venting.

I've had ASAT for idk 20 years ? Need to get more warm weather ASAT and a size that fits me today..... I've been amazed with it. My throughs are I don't need to look like a tree,which at a distance you just look like a dark blob anyway. Like fish lures are made to catch fishermen more then fish, camo is made to look good to the hunter.

My mother in law takes the heart and slices it open, cleans it and fries it up in olive oil with onions and semi hot peppers. Salt and pepper to taste. Comes out delicious!

Can we leave Cuomo and/or the Safe Act out of one post? Cuomo, like Obama, was initially Pro-fracking. Obama probably still is. Currently, Last I heard, Cuomo is not committing to a stance on fracking, and is going along with the legislature and the public and agrees to weigh a health impact study not yet completed. The intended message here, is the industry is spending money and making an effort to befriend hunters. They don't offer me a darn thing, if you think they offer you something, then be pro-fracking. Personally I am anti-fracking.... I am also anti-BS. And it gets under my skin that the industry is basically trying to weasel their way into the good graces of the hunting community. I think disingenuous weaseling gets under the skin of most people. Cuomo didn't act alone in the safe act, and there are more vulnerable politicians in the legislature than him. A lot of all this is just wind or a loyalty to the republican party, because if one was truly concerned, they would be after those in the legislature, including the republicans who wrote the safe act and the republicans who voted for the safe act. Cuomo is under a term limit, the lawmakers are not.... We have one of the most egregious republicans in senate district 60 reeling, yet why aren't all the tough guys pouring it on? Promote Kevin Stocker who took the republican nomination away from Grisanti. On this site, below each post there are buttons for FB, twitter, google plus and other social media sites - start using them...