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Used them for the past two seasons. They are tough and hit hard. Over-penetration is only a problem when they bury in the ground after a pass through. They do tend to have a stiffer dynamic spine than indicated, but that's not usually problem with a well tuned compound. I have yet to bend one. Speed and costs are the offset to the benefit of greater penetration, but well worth it in my opinion.

hope it was of legal age. =)Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Picked up the disc for $300.00 and the plow for free! its nice to finally have my own equipment for food plots. If anyone knows where i can get the lower blades (or shares as i am discovering they are called) for the plow i would appreciate any info? it is a Ferguson 14-A0-28 Model, i have read online that the "shares" are costly and hard to find for this model.

I think that if Colt got back into the double action revolver game, they would at the top of the heap or at least neck and neck with S&W.

Sam Colt went bankrupt once as well. The Paterson NJ factory was closed but a new design kept the company alive. Colt today is not making smart management decisions, but I think they will restructure and reorganize, keeping the company alive, or at least the company name and some of it's products. You'll still be able to buy a 1911 or an AR rifle if they fold, but it will just have a different name on it. Colt's best chance IMHO is to start making it's revolvers it's main product. That would include it's Single Action Army models too.

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There is a hot controversy right now about glyphosate - the active ingredient in Roundup -being carcinogenic. As far as no residue, a study in Europe found glyphosate residue in 44% of urine samples from people from 18 countries. It is now banned in France. See - http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/apr/21/glyphosate-probably-carcinogenic-pesticide-why-cities-use-it I do use it for invasive species control, and around young Christmas trees but would never use it on food crops - for myself - or my animals. It is now being linked to gluten intolerance - a rapidly growing problem in this country - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/ Deer eating these crops could never be considered "organic". BTW - Growing any RR plants from seeds you collect can get you in big trouble.

yeah, I don't think I've ever heard of someone losing an animal due to penetrating it too deeply.........

And so the hunters did as they have been instructed to do by what passes for the game management authority and competency center. You have a permit, your state's game biologists and experts expect you to fill it. They're supposed to be the experts, and if things go wrong, they are the one's who should be shouldering the blame, not the hunters, (yucking it up notwithstanding...lol). The system worked as it was designed. The experts issued the calculated number of permits and the hunters did their part by filling them as they are expected to. By the way, anybody got any clue as to why that system works so thoroughly in PA, but here in NYS, our DEC claims that they can't make the permit system work so they have to bastardize game regulations with more hair-brained schemes? That's a bit off topic, but the point just occurred to me,so I just thought I would ask.

Got this a week or so ago You spoke, I listened, and yesterday the Senate delivered on the SAFE Act Dear fellow Second Amendment supporter: Less than six months into my first term as your Senator for the 55th District, I am proud to announce that the New York State Senate yesterday took an important series of steps to begin dismantling the SAFE Act piece by piece. Senate Bill 5837, which I cosponsor, makes significant progress towards fulfilling a promise I made to you upon taking office – that we would work together to restore Second Amendment rights for all New Yorkers, once and for all. As you know, I was not serving in the Senate when the SAFE Act was adopted. Had I been, I would have voted no, in addition to doing everything in my power to prevent its passage. With the bad law now on the books, I continue to believe strongly that full repeal of the SAFE Act should remain our goal. However, after meeting with representatives from the National Rifle Association (NRA), the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association (NYSRPA), and the Shooters Committee On Political Education (SCOPE), it became clear that we must take an “all fronts” approach to beating back this failed legislation. That’s why I fully support S.5837, which takes aim at some of the most onerous and damaging pieces of the SAFE Act. Several of the provisions passed yesterday reflect concerns that you and Second Amendment supporters from across our area brought to me over the past few months. In fact, at least three of these items – particularly those related to family inheritance of restricted firearms, due process in the mental health provisions, and the elimination of the ammunition tracking database – were discussed as priorities in a recent meeting I held in my District Office with members of Ontario County SCOPE. You spoke, I listened, and yesterday we delivered. The legislation we passed to dismantle the SAFE Act hits the following targets: - Amends the penal law to allow a person to pass his or her guns and high capacity ammunition feeding devices to an immediate family member upon death, to allow New Yorkers to continue to share their love of firearms from generation to generation. - Amends the penal law so that pistol permit applications and supporting documentation are not public records and are not subject to Freedom of Information Law (FOIL), to better protect your personal and private information. - Amends portions of the Mental Hygiene Law to require that: (1) individuals reported under the mental health provisions of the SAFE Act are properly identified; and that (2) a reported person is notified in writing of his or her right to appeal when a report is sent to the Division of Criminal Justice Services. Everyone agrees that firearms could be a hazard in the hands of the mentally ill, but our Constitution guarantees us all a right to due process. It’s time to make it so in New York State again. - Fully repeals the Ammunition Tracking Database, which the Senate fought and won to defund in the 2015-16 State Budget, to rid gun owners and sellers alike of the undue and intrusive burden of documenting each and every ammo purchase in New York. I believe that these common-sense reforms represent a positive step in the right direction to address the problems created by the SAFE Act. And, when coupled with ongoing court challenges brought by average citizens who have been wronged, I am hopeful that we can strike a powerful blow against this unconstitutional law. I am proud to be a strong voice for you in Albany in support of the Second Amendment, but please know how much I appreciate your grassroots activism. This isn’t a victory for me – it’s a victory for you and for our Constitution. Your efforts have made a difference. With this important step, the focus now shifts to the New York State Assembly. There is bipartisan support for these measures, so Democrats and Republicans alike must act quickly in the Assembly to adopt these common sense proposals without delay. I urge you to contact your Assembly member TODAY to advocate for the passage of this important legislation before the end of this legislative session, which is just days away. The time for talk is over. The time for action is now. As always, feel free to contact me with any questions, concerns, or questions you have on the SAFE Act or any other issue. For more information on all of the measures passed in S.5837, please visit: http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S5837-2015. Albany Office: 905 Legislative Office Bldg Albany, NY 12247 518-455-2215 District Office: Packetts Landing, Suite 230 Fairport, NY 14450 585-223-1800

yes hunters did as the biologist wanted.... they killed deer by the thousands. bragged and yucked it up all the while doing so. Its not rocket science, you kill doe you are going to affect the populations, but people had tags and they HAD to fill them. If people here shot doe like they do in pa ny would be seeing the same decline. As I said SOMETHING had to be done, the carrying capacity was way over where it needed to be, and by your words the forest canopy has more to do with forest regeneration than deer, in one respect that's true it does but while trying to do selective cutting because of over population and over browsing forest regeneration targeted goals were not being reached. Mature forests will not and long term can not support excessive wildlife numbers, farmlands and more populated areas can and will support higher deer density numbers. As I said before I do not agree 100% with how this whole deer plan was done, yes something needed done, did it go too far in some area's yes. my biggest gripe about the whole thing is they made the management areas bigger when in fact they should have been made smaller to better manage to carrying capacity. I find it mind boggling that people could believe with antler restrictions and herd reduction that the end result would be anything other than a lower number of deer killed after a spike in doe kills. A number of factors go into the lower deer kill numbers, 1. obviously lower deer density numbers. 2. no matter what the PGC says the numbers of pa deer hunters is WAY below what they claim. back in the 70's 80's they claim as they do today that a million deer hunters enter the woods the monday after thanksgiving.. I can remember vividly those days and the number of people I saw hunting, lines of cars parked along roads, and the number of pumpkins we saw dotting every ridge, hill and valley.. No matter what the license sales are not every license sale is for deer hunting and the deer hunter numbers are down. hunter numbers are down so kills will likely be down. 3. changes in how people hunt, you see way more box blinds today than I ever saw growing up in pa. nobody had 4 wheelers. todays hunting clothes and insulation quality is far superior than back in the old days so people don't need to move to stay warm. when I first started hunting in the late 70's we always saw people walking walkers move deer , moving deer ended up walking by a waiting hunter. when people go into a blind and set there all day and so does the neighbor and his neighbor and nobody is moving the deer sightings will go down. 4. we as a society have grown to be an instant gratification society, if it doesn't happen as fast as we want we go do something else. it amazes me how empty the woods are after 10 am the first day of gun season. people think they should be able to go out and see 100 deer a day and shoot one by 8 am and be to the local coffee shop by 9 am ,,,,and don't care about any biological impact. 5. not a personal slam to anyone here, but to be brutally honest today's hunters are lazy. they think they should be able to walk in 100-200 yards and have a deer stroll by to shoot. I fully understand that some folks can not physically go any farther than that. but year in and year out the number of 4 wheelers running the woods goes up. your in the deers house, to me running a 4 wheeler through the woods is like someone running it in my house. deer are not stupid. 6. deers age, for the most part 1.5 year old deer are not terribly hard to kill and certainly make up a large percentage of the kill numbers. they make a fairly large jump in survival skills from 1.5 to 2.5 years. from 2.5 to 3.5 there is a significant jump in survival skills. 4.5 and up you better be on your A game hunting those animals. like I said before, some area's and primarily public lands got decimated, no different than public lands here in NY generally hold fewer deer numbers simply because more hunters moving deer means a greater chance that deer is going to go past a waiting hunter. That's why I said the management areas should be smaller, same as they should be here in NY. in many zones you have large city's and towns and vast farmland all in the same zone how can you properly manage a vast difference in habitat and accessibility for hunters.

I avoid most "rally's" and "protests" like the plaque.........most make the protesters look like buffoons with their offensive t-shirts and handmade signs that usually have a misspelling or two, and instead of making those on the outside looking in jump in to support them, it makes them turn away in disgust........but, that's just my observations.

over the weekend we were cleaning out closets and sorting through packed totes to see what could go to the curb and what could go to camp. I hit paydirt in the 4th tote.... 2 grocery bags of legs and a large shoebox full of beards dating back to the 80's. the biggest find was a prize from a contest mike joyner ran a number of years back... it was made by none other than our very own member here on HNY MAYTOM. I took the bags out to the shop and started going through all the legs and started filling the "board" it was a wonderful trip down memory lane while working on it. the top row consists of some extra special sets of spurs including 3 sets of ivory colored spurs. the second row are all 1 1/4"- 1 5/16" the third row are all 1 3/8" - 1 5/8" the only problem is I need a few more of these racks thanks Maytom this will be on display at our camp in Pa. in a few weeks.

I have been shooting them since the year they came out. They are the longest lasting, hardest hitting arrows I have ever owned. I switched from a lighter carbon arrows and will never ever go back to them. I have killed 7 deer with the same arrow since owning them. You get the best of everything, thin, carbon, metal, and weight to drive your broadhead through your target.

Im guessing 28 in "beaver years" its a similar scale to dog years

There's no downside to over penetration........................

That one looks like a perfectly normal size yearling to me.

This would be a pretty quiet forum if the prerequisite for making a comment was that you had to first become an activist.

Protesting doesnt do as much as getting involved with an organization that has some political pull, and matches up with your beliefs and values. Emailing, sending letters and making phone calls to your representatives are also part of how you help to make a change. I dont know about you, but i have much more going on in my life other than the discussions i have on this site.

You really don't need to ask do you? All the good stuff: Bait, prayer and great shot choices. Well done dad......

The third tooth in on the bottom jaw (third premolar) has 3 cusps which means it is a yearling (last years fawn). You can see the adult premolar growing underneath...

Yes, it's that time of the year again for the Empire Farm Days.August 6, 7, 8 th 2013 at the Rodman Lott & Sons Farms; Seneca Falls, NY. Largest farm show in the Northeast. This year starts a new era, a new " Outdoor Sporting Center. Equipment sales and demos from big names such as Savage Arms, Bulldog, Winchester, Browning, Nikon Optics, and more. Check out www.empirefarmdays.com for more info.