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2 years out but you're right otherwise.....the golden carrot is they will tout more mature bucks are running around that ever due to the now almost nonexistent deer population and the need to wander into finding mates. Bad chit ahead no matter how you look at it. Since everyone else posted their praise I'll throw mine out. 1-5 suck and are for folks trying to compensate for a lack of hunting effort. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Do yourself a favor and listen to the Wired To Hunt podcast w Mark Drury. He nailed it. The rut take place the same time every year BUT the moons influence (like visibility) makes it seem better or worse. Sadly he said this yr is as bad as it gets for frantic daytime chasing for the typical Election Day chase period Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Check your rings and bases? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Always amazing to see how the idiots who are supposed to be managing game in green sound like those in Orange on their points Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Was there any offering of logic on why they did this? Obviously it is the least proficient choice for killing does..... They were supposed to push the ML sept deal and this was to go away... Then they passed their bluff. What idiots. He is a pompous a$$ if you've ever talked to him. Knows more than God. Thinking the only thing he killed was ML sales Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

How long until the "I haven't seen chit from my stands" threads start?

It will be interesting to see how zones falling in multiple DEC regions will be handled Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Ooh- only 45000 dmps as a target for 8g.... All based on science and fact.... [emoji33] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Lesser than avg hard mast- lots of soft mast esp pears Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Meanwhile the meth lab running rapist next door got 3 nights because his daughter had some tips on people selling fireworks They may be s symbol of our nation but they eat trash and obviously weren't the targeted species. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I feel like every thread here ends up being the "airing of grievances" from Seinfeld

Was there as well

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Where do you buy yours (Welter)?

I have two different groups of 3 pups (based on coloration) and 118 trail cam pictures for the 2 mos I've ran cams in 2015. 8g is where I am at. We try to shoot everyone but typically only get/call 2-3 a year. The it season should be open year round and limiting when they can be called and harvested makes no sense. Good luck

Looks like Piatt has everyone's attention and his speculation seeds are growing as expected....... +1 NYON (the privatized p.r. arm of the DEC)

The first shot matters most. Have shot blrs and a benelli r1. Not bad but not as accurate. Though I would not hunt with one- ar platform would be the most accurate IMO. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I have the used the liquid - which I got from a farmer- thought the pellets were next to impossible to find since the McVey deal. How much is it a bag? Would like to buy some w you Phade. Btw- found spray foliar fert gets brassicas rocketing after green up. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

They'll give anyone dmaps- the process doesn't even involve a biologist visit anymore. I apologize for the miss on your "localized" population. Don't forget that herd will relocate and perhaps you have a great concentration that what is beyond your boundaries or knowledge. Glad to hear the gun driving folks in your area shoot as many juvenile bucks as does- it finished the already painted picture. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

If you think it is impossible to shoot too many does I'd like to compare your degree and data to mine. You'll realize it is possible when you're sitting their deerless. Predation, weather and other mortality/attrition take place. Mother Nature has a way of establishing carrying capacity and culling an abundance. Also note you may 18 deer in your vision but how does that relate to deer per square mile? How many bucks do you see? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Hunter satisfaction is in their job duties- so is herd management. My view is slightly askew from yours in feeling they do it to say folks had a chance. Sort of like voting republican in NY- many do it but we all know how it ends, right? No surprise to anyone that's read a post of mine; They're failing at the herd/game part too. We have this antiquated, though ever changing, reporting system and no ensues efforts. They claim to work with sportsman through liaison groups (nycc, lmnop, etc) for a finger on the pulse of what hunters want. Look at this doe proposal thing for early and late season- NO ONE heard of it prior to "this may happen". Doubting its a real proposal it is just like their Albany breatheren throwing out a spin to usher something else through. We spend lots of money on licenses and get so little in return. We all feel slighted by the number of surveys issued and ultimately they don't matter. Taking this full circle with kicking the dead horse; they just put them out their for our sake and the return address was most likely a recycling bin in Albany. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Tempted to foia the info- I am sure they'll use some supposed results to justify their next brilliant move Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Scouting- or time glassine from afar and even trail cams- will bring your hunting out of luck and into the Intel stage. We all have obligations and choices for prioritization. Don't ruin your logic with an excuse. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Steve is a great guy and his habitat business is money well spent. This is so paramount with regard to the state saying we have too many does- they're clueless. Unless you can manage your ground based on knowledge you'll find discontent. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

90 near Dunkirk yesterday