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Just below the cut grass line

The antler pedicle is small which usually indicates a younger buck... probably a hormonal imbalance that isn't producing a typical rack configuration. It does happen sometimes. Or possibly a defect in the pedicles which will produce funky racks on a buck... maybe even just a genetic trait. You never know a bucks true potential until he matures.

Looks to me like that is the way it developed... young deer that will probably carry a big non-typical rack later in life.

Nice to see a fellow Trad guy.... Congrats!!!

Having done a hunting show I can tell you it is only about business at the end of the day. It takes a lot of viewers and sponsorship to finance a hunting show. It takes hundreds, even thousands, of hours of filming just to get enough material to do a seasons worth of episodes. Some are willing to do WHATEVER it takes to attain all those things... I can tell you first hand that 99% of these shows are staged BS... that doesn't mean they are not entertaining sometimes... but lots of smoke and mirrors to develop something that both gets viewers and appeases advertisers. I didn't care for the type of prostitution needed to maintain a hunting show, hence, the reason I don't have one today. You'll learn more watching amateur self filmed YouTube videos.

That passed deer might live to eat apples under a neighborhood tree that may save a young child from slipping on the apple and hitting it's head on the ground causing brain damage. Makes the same kind of sense... right?

As tragic as the story is there is no correlation between passing any deer and the fact that someone was killed in a car-deer accident. If she had hit a huge buck and been killed would you only hunt huge bucks? This kind of illogical thinking is why it's hard to get people to understand the things that DO make sense.

That is a HUGE 8-point... they don't get much bigger than that!

200" Non-typical

We have a had a few 200+ non-typicals in the past few years... one last year in fact. The truth is a really big non-typical is 300+. But a 200+ typical in NY? I suppose it's possible, but I wouldn't hold my breath looking for one. A 180 typical buck is nearly impossible to find. NY puts less than 1 B&C buck in the book a year on average and that is 170 minimum. The buck Chas0218 posted is not even close to 200. Anyone that has seen the Roosevelt Luckey head in person can see what it takes to be a 200 class typical whitetail... hell, there hasn't been many killed in the world all time.

I know something... I'd shoot him all day long!!

I have a custom made knife now, but i always liked the Shrade Old Timer... I have two older ones with the good American steel.. easy to sharpen and inexpensive.

I did it before I went to wooden arrows... easiest way to optimize arrow weight and distribute it evenly.

I do it all the time... it helps me get to know what movement I can get away with and what I can't. Mind you I still hunt on the ground with a recurve... so it is important to me to know what is doable in close quarters... 20 yards and in. One thing I learned is that deer can pick up small light reflections off the limbs of the bow that close... so I have to dull my limbs with a flat paint to eliminate any reflection

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Congrats!

Deer are not fond of the perfume smell that the Black walnut shell gives off... and the squirrels will scarf them all long before the deer can get at them. I had a tree in the yard and never saw a single deer near the tree let alone eating the nuts. I am sure if the nuts were around late in the winter and not already taken by the squirrels they might eat them as a last resort however.

My friends and I left our shotguns with the principal... he kept them in his office until after school then we would hunt for grouse behind the school... much different times!

"Hatchet" is a good read too...

They actually made a movie of the book in the 70's... wasn't bad but not nearly as good as the book. I had a Mr. Becker in 5th grade as well!

My favorite book as a kid!!

58 in November

Population control is the first part of deer management. You either manage the habitat to handle the population or you manage the population to live in the given habitat all to establish the healthiest herd possible. The DEC tries their best to do that plus keep a whiny NY hunter population appeased as well... a monumental task.

I know hunters that pass on does then shoot the first buck that comes their way then feel compelled to tell everyone they shot a small buck because they're a meat hunter... you don't need to justify shooting a legal buck, but I am always curious to know why you passed on the does if you're a meet hunter. I really think it is way more about ego than meat sometimes. The old " I'd cut my tongue out rather than have to tell my friends I didn't get a buck this year" kind of ego. The whole trophy hunting " let 'em grow" mantra rattling in everyones ears isn't helping either. You shouldn't have to categorize yourself as anything but a hunter.. period.

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