Winter blahs...2016 rut prediction

[nyslowhand]

Author was way too modest to post this himself.

http://www.wellsvilledaily.com/article/20160223/SPORTS/160229941

 

[Larry]

try hunting 11/1 till the start of gun season that's my rut prediction

[BizCT]

Would be cool if NY opened 9/15 like CT for a chance at a velvet buck

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[kpkot]

Would be cool if NY opened 9/15 like CT for a chance at a velvet buck

I never really understood the velvet craze. September I've seen days when its high 80s. After this past tropical deer season I am ready for some colder hunting. Not to mention if you do shoot one in velvet you are paying someone to preserve the velvet so it doesn't rot.

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[grampy]

Every year, I just mark the first two weeks in November, for the best rutting days of the season. Those two weeks are when most bucks are on their feet searching for or breeding the does. Same time frame every year. Will rutting activity take place before and after this time? Absolutely! That's why you spend as much time as you can, on stand, during all of deer season!

[NYBowhunter]

Last year i analyzed the last 5 or so year history of trail cam photos taken over a mock scrape that i open up each year (same spot) and included activity from 1 1/2 to 4 1/2 yr. old bucks (both day and night activity) and the vast majority of bucks peeing over their hocks and using the licking branch was from 11/6 to 11/10. Attached photo is of 6pt. shot on 11/7/15 with crossbow mere feet from that mock scrape. I believe there is a pattern to the rut each year, in this instance it tooks years of photos taken at a fixed loaction on my property to narrow down a time window to hunt that works for me.

[growalot]

 

Not to mention if you do shoot one in velvet you are paying someone to preserve the velvet so it doesn't rot.

 

I always wondered how they do that...anyone know?

[kpkot]

I always wondered how they do that...anyone know?

I believe they inject the antler with formaldehyde in several locations with a needle. So it kinda puts people who like euros out of luck. I had a velvet rack off a deer that was hit by a car. That velvet turns quick and stinks.

[BizCT]

I always wondered how they do that...anyone know?

Few different ways to do it. They do it on whitetail and muley velvet as well as caribou. I like the ones in between where they are shedding the velvet but some still on it.

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[BizCT]

I believe they inject the antler with formaldehyde in several locations with a needle. So it kinda puts people who like euros out of luck. I had a velvet rack off a deer that was hit by a car. That velvet turns quick and stinks.

I've seen several euro velvet mounts. They look great.

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[kpkot]

I've seen several euro velvet mounts. They look great.

Sounds cool ill check them out on google. Must take some serious skill there.

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[Merlot]

try hunting 11/1 till the start of gun season that's my rut prediction

excellent...right to the point. 

[A Sportsman]

I agree Larry and Merlot. Last bow season I spent half my time on stand cursing Charlie Alzheimer under my breath. Little Rut activity I witnessed was nothing even remotely close to the wild scene he said would unfold in late October.

We talk in circles about moons, warm weather, cold fronts, etc. I give up. Best to just do your scouting and hunt your butt off the first 2 weeks of November. And last week of October.

[The_Real_TCIII]

As stated above, first two weeks of November are almost always prime seeking. Later on you may get close to a hot doe during the actual breeding phase and have the hunt of your life but that seeking phase in my opinion is your best hunting. Everyone's opinion actually lol

[Tughill Tamer]

I agree the first 2 weeks in November are the best although last year I saw a nice buck chasing a doe on thanksgiving morning.

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[Buckstopshere]

You are right about the first two weeks of November being the general sweet spot, year in and year out. But some years, like last year, the early part of the cycle...Halloween to Election Day or so was the best. But the year before, in 2014, the best time was a week or so later, like Election Day (11/2) to Veteran's Day (11/11). and if you can only concentrate on a few days...like 3 or 5, the fine tuned rut prediction matters a great deal. Bow hunters like to know the sweet spot in the sweet spot because it hones it down to a few days each year. Who can argue that Halloween to opening of the Regular gun season is the best time of the year to be in the woods?

[grampy]

If I had to pick the very best 5 days, year in and year out. Without a doubt, hands down, it would be the two days, either side of November 10th. If I could only hunt 5 days, these are the ones.

[Lawdwaz]

Election week has always been a prime time for me to take some time off.  This year I think it was 87 degrees +/- a few.....

 

I hunted as hard as I could that week but my heart just wasn't in it. 

 

 

A few days later I took out a heart...............

 

 

 

[Lawdwaz]

The way I look at it is, after that election week hunt, if I've punched my buck tag great, I'll hunt doe for the remainder of the season.  IF I didn't score on a buck, then I still have plenty of time to really get serious.

 

As always, YMMV.

[stoneam2006]

I've always had good luck Halloween to the 10th of nov....this year in the fingerlakes they were chasing hard thanksgiving week

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[G-Man]

I always wondered how they do that...anyone know?

Most velvet bucks I've seen are fake velvet applied with static and glue, it's usually because the velvet rots quick and by time

taxidermist gets it it much easier to strip and apply fake velvet , most people never know.. in cases of a road kill where hrs are not anywhere near hard it's a long possess of injection and pushing body fluids out of the developing horns

Many examples are available off the net.. easier to do it this way and 99% of people will never know the difference.

Edited February 25, 2016 by G-Man

[The_Real_TCIII]

I agree the first 2 weeks in November are the best although last year I saw a nice buck chasing a doe on thanksgiving morning.

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From what I saw this year the rut was strung out for weeks. The buck I killed open opening day of rifle was grunting and chasing hard. Weird year

[The_Real_TCIII]

Election week has always been a prime time for me to take some time off. This year I think it was 87 degrees +/- a few.....

I hunted as hard as I could that week but my heart just wasn't in it.

A few days later I took out a heart...............

I personally wouldn't hunt with a Phillips head screwdriver but hey, that's your journey man

[Tughill Tamer]

From what I saw this year the rut was strung out for weeks. The buck I killed open opening day of rifle was grunting and chasing hard. Weird year

Yeah I agree not your typical year for sure

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[nyslowhand]

Lots of discussion points on both sides of the "What initiates the rut" debate. In the end, like most have witnessed, it happens around the 1st half of Nov. Then there's the uncontrollable influences, like last year's warmer weather. Lot of the actual rutting we see in the woods is also somewhat dependent on the buck to doe ratio. Then there's the annual scenario of a friend texting you...The ruts on, they're chasing does like crazy! As you look around at the vacuum you're sitting in...scratching your head!!

 

The lure of Alzheimer's rutting moon prediction is for those hunters that want to schedule the minimum amount of vacation at the optimum time. Which I completely understand! Will give credit to the author of the linked article for freely providing his version of the rutting moon prediction. Unlike Alzheimer, who prefers to get paid for his release of the same prediction. Sorry Charlie, you've sold out.