Whiners

[Rattler]

1 hour ago, Uptown Redneck said:

the consequences of your vote.

The consequences of voting for Little Hitler would be electing the most dangerous, unqualified person in the history of the U.S.. Had it not been for the support of the uneducated, xenophobia trailer park inhabiting fools, then perhaps the GOP might have nominated someone who might be able to win in November. Whatever restrictions a Hilary administration might bring about to your misplaced beliefs you will have no one to blame but yourselves for your support for the idiot that is your chosen candidate.   

This is pure propaganda from Leftists and the data indicates it to be so.  Most of Trumps support comes from the old Tea Party supporters and true conservatives.  These are not people who lack standing in the community.  These are people who can influence others because they have the data to support their claims about corruption and massive debt.  These are main stream Americans.  They are the ones Obama has been marginalizing for 8 years.  They are not going along with the PC plan anymore.  

As far as the GOP Rino's go.......

 

[philoshop]

Hillary Clinton, as U.S.senator from NYS vowed to bring 200,000 new jobs to upstate. We lost more than 6,000 jobs, some say as many as 40,000 jobs, during her tenure. Her major accomplishments were renaming a roadway and a bridge. Vote wisely.

[philoshop]

6 hours ago, Rattler said:

This is pure propaganda from Leftists and the data indicates it to be so.  Most of Trumps support comes from the old Tea Party supporters and true conservatives.  These are not people who lack standing in the community.  These are people who can influence others because they have the data to support their claims about corruption and massive debt.  These are main stream Americans.  They are the ones Obama has been marginalizing for 8 years.  They are not going along with the PC plan anymore.  

As far as the GOP Rino's go.......

 

There are so many people poised to vote for Trump, but who won't advertise it or say it, that this isn't even going to be close. The silent majority is fully awake, and we call it the "monster vote".

Trump 2016

[covert]

15 hours ago, Rattler said:

You confuse logic with tyranny my friend.  I'm not telling you who to vote for.  I'm telling you the consequences of your vote.

I feel I am intelligent enough to weigh the consequences of any decision I make and act accordingly.  Thank you for your concern though and if he should win I truly hope and will freely admit that you were right.  I know Hillary will be bad for the country but if Trump wins, I fear that is crow I will never have to eat.

[covert]

And my concern about Trump has nothing to do with the party, I feel their moral compass went awry a long time ago.  I know the feeling of being disgusted with the status quo and desperate for a way to change the direction we're headed, I just don't believe Trump is the answer.

[Huntscreek]

To the Whiners I say stop your bitchin and stand by your pledge. I mans word still means a lot to some folks & to me. To neck I say would you rather Vote for someone who is wrong 99.9% of the time. Who also is a mouth peace for everything your unhappy with. Plus Hillary will double up on the national Debt that Obama has already has done. That's debt hanging around your family. kids their kids for generations to come because of your bad judgment in this election. Not to mention her low morals,and Now add in the SCOTUS choices and a person with 1/4 of a brain would say oh hill No.

Edited August 11, 2016 by Huntscreek

[Rattler]

I see this election offering citizens two choices.  

Hillary will give you bigger government, higher taxes, a stagnant economy, more regulation and infringement on ALL of your rights and possibly endanger national security to the point of getting thousands of Americans killed.

Trump will not be perfect and may screw up a few things, but offers a chance to regain what the Left has taken away, or destroyed.  A return to more government by the Constitution, a Supreme Court that will protect that ideal and less government infringing on All of your freedoms.  That will improve the economy, lower taxes and limit government interference in all areas of freedom.  Regarding National Security, history proves the best thing a country can have to be secure from it's enemies, is a leader it's enemies respect and fear.  

I hear a lot of idiots talking about things they think Trump might do, but none of them will ever mention the things they know Hillary will do.

[Uptown Redneck]

The potential dangers of a Hilary administration pale in comparison to the world-wide damage Little Hitler would bring about.

His calls to increase taxes on imports and his threats of trade wars will cause economic carnage (remember, we make very very little of what the American consumer buys here) by increasing costs while American workers wages continue to fall further (and don't forget Little Hitler opposes an increase in the minimum wage) strangling retail spending which is a large driver of the American economy. 

His calls to upend diplomatic agreements and his xenophobic point of view will drive our long time allies away (they already see him as the jackass that a growing number of Americans see him as on a daily basis).  

So yes. Little Hitler has no place in the Oval office. While Hilary has problems she is by the far the lesser of the two evils. 

Edited August 11, 2016 by Uptown Redneck

[Culvercreek hunt club]

13 hours ago, philoshop said:

There are so many people poised to vote for Trump, but who won't advertise it or say it, that this isn't even going to be close. The silent majority is fully awake, and we call it the "monster vote".

Trump 2016

I said something similar the other day. Specifically about the lack of Trump bumper stickers that I see around. I was talking to a group while golfing and we got on the topic of politics. They were firmly backing trump. (6 of them). I was actually surprised becasue I hadn't heard any of them voice that before. They said they wouldn't put up lawn sign, stickers or talk about their support because of how rabid the left is in their opposition to Trump and they don't want the hassle. Makes me wonder how many closet supporters are out there. 

[Culvercreek hunt club]

7 hours ago, covert said:

And my concern about Trump has nothing to do with the party, I feel their moral compass went awry a long time ago.  I know the feeling of being disgusted with the status quo and desperate for a way to change the direction we're headed, I just don't believe Trump is the answer.

Hillary is?

[Culvercreek hunt club]

6 hours ago, Huntscreek said:

 Now add in the SCOTUS choices and a person with 1/4 of a brain would say oh hill No.

That has been my driving force since it became clear that he was gettign the nomination. There is definitely one and possibly more given the ages of the Justices. I can live through a Hillary term but SCOTUS is a lifetime appointment and I know the type she will try to put in. 

[philoshop]

29 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

I said something similar the other day. Specifically about the lack of Trump bumper stickers that I see around. I was talking to a group while golfing and we got on the topic of politics. They were firmly backing trump. (6 of them). I was actually surprised becasue I hadn't heard any of them voice that before. They said they wouldn't put up lawn sign, stickers or talk about their support because of how rabid the left is in their opposition to Trump and they don't want the hassle. Makes me wonder how many closet supporters are out there. 

When a 62 year old guy in NJ is attacked with a crowbar by a rabid Democrat for simply wearing a Trump t-shirt, it makes me think twice about wearing my Trump t-shirts in public. I'm not a coward, but I am definitely getting older, and smarter, and I have no desire to be hospitalized because a socialist idiot twenty-something doesn't like my shirt, sticker, or yard sign.

The anonymity of the voting booth come November will be the decider, and I predict It won't even be close.

[philoshop]

An article about the 'news' coverage of the crowbar incident:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/08/10/62-year-old-trump-supporter-beaten-with-crowbar-for-wearing-trump-t-shirt-media-makes-headline-about-t-shirt/

Apparently it's the t-shirt's fault. Anybody else see the utter idiocy and bias in this?

[Uptown Redneck]

I predict It won't even be close.

You would be right, it will be a Hilary landslide because come Nov the only people left voting for Little Hitler after he's done alienating everyone else will be his two sons, his daughter and his wife (assuming she doesn't divorce his dumb ass by then) 

[greg54]

37 minutes ago, Uptown Redneck said:

 

 my  son and his mom 

 

[Doc]

On ‎8‎/‎9‎/‎2016 at 0:16 PM, covert said:

I absolutely agree that the Republican Party has been going down the tubes for a long time and for years I've choked it down and gone for the lesser of two evils.  After awhile though you get tired of s- - t sandwiches.  I don't believe that Trump is the answer and we could possibly end up in worse shape than with Hitlery.  Trump is a blowhard, a buffoon and appears unstable.  He will end up putting us in the dirt.

I fear that in the end, if we hold the majority in Congress, they will go along with any harebrained policy Trump comes up with just because he's "our guy" with an R by his name and we need to support him, where they may put up at least a token resistance to Clinton.  Don't misunderstand me, I wouldn't vote for Hillary no matter what, but I'm not sure if I can bring myself to vote for Trump.  For the first time in my life I have seriously, considered voting Libertarian.  They're normally a little too out there for me but I don't know if the Constitution Party is on the ballot.

You have only two viable choices. Trump who is not schooled in the slick art of politics and mis-speaks far more often than your average dyed in the wool slickster, but has philosophies that have elements of what this country grew up on. Or you have the career politician who knows all the tricks and procedures for lying to your face, utilizing slimy practices that are illegal for all but the chosen few that truly are above the law. If you are tired of the business as usual candidates, that can slip and slide through the system, then to me it makes no sense to vote for that kind of candidate. Yes, this country has been sliding down the rat-hole for decades. To me it makes more sense to shake up the system with someone who is not a career politician and makes a few mistakes along the way than the one who has made sleaze a career path and knows how to remove your rights and make you happy about it.

Protest votes involving insignificant third parties are simply sitting the vote out and leaving the results up to luck, or more likely handing the election to the slickster and her political machine. That is not a protest vote, it is simply a way of forfeiting your vote and avoiding taking a stand by using the system. 

[ants]

I hate to say it but, right now, I looks like little Hitlerette is in…….Things could change tho, for the, over the top ,proven  corrupt, lying,  little gal. but who knows..

 

Hope Im wrong..

[philoshop]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

You have only two viable choices. Trump who is not schooled in the slick art of politics and mis-speaks far more often than your average dyed in the wool slickster, but has philosophies that have elements of what this country grew up on. Or you have the career politician who knows all the tricks and procedures for lying to your face, utilizing slimy practices that are illegal for all but the chosen few that truly are above the law. If you are tired of the business as usual candidates, that can slip and slide through the system, then to me it makes no sense to vote for that kind of candidate. Yes, this country has been sliding down the rat-hole for decades. To me it makes more sense to shake up the system with someone who is not a career politician and makes a few mistakes along the way than the one who has made sleaze a career path and knows how to remove your rights and make you happy about it.

Protest votes involving insignificant third parties are simply sitting the vote out and leaving the results up to luck, or more likely handing the election to the slickster and her political machine. That is not a protest vote, it is simply a way of forfeiting your vote and avoiding taking a stand by using the system. 

Trump is someone I'd invite into my home to have dinner with. Mrs. Clinton is someone I would demand payment in advance from before I started my tractor to pull her car out of my ditch during a snowstorm.

[Rattler]

2 hours ago, ants said:

I hate to say it but, right now, I looks like little Hitlerette is in…….Things could change tho, for the, over the top ,proven  corrupt, lying,  little gal. but who knows..

 

Hope Im wrong..

Don't believe the polls that are being tossed about.  The media lies to support their chosen one.  The polls can very easily be manipulated too.  The greatest evidence Trump is still a major threat to Leftist Progressives is how much they attack every single thing he does or says, and they do it in the stupidest ways.  If he was really 10 percentage points behind in the polls, they wouldn't be wasting their breath on these things.

[The_Field_Ager]

On 8/11/2016 at 7:19 PM, ants said:

I hate to say it but, right now, I looks like little Hitlerette is in…….Things could change tho, for the, over the top ,proven  corrupt, lying,  little gal. but who knows..

 

Hope Im wrong..

Dude, what news channels are you watching? Twitter and social media are all about Trump. The pollsters only go after the aging and increasinly irrelevant TV watching crowd. It's a Brave New World

[ATbuckhunter]

On 8/11/2016 at 3:17 PM, philoshop said:

When a 62 year old guy in NJ is attacked with a crowbar by a rabid Democrat for simply wearing a Trump t-shirt, it makes me think twice about wearing my Trump t-shirts in public. I'm not a coward, but I am definitely getting older, and smarter, and I have no desire to be hospitalized because a socialist idiot twenty-something doesn't like my shirt, sticker, or yard sign.

The anonymity of the voting booth come November will be the decider, and I predict It won't even be close.

Its a shame that people are hurt for their political views...especially an elderly man. Unfortunately neither side seems to be clean of that. A quick google or even youtube search will show the many attacks committed by trump fans and sometimes its done during a Trump rally. 

[philoshop]

58 minutes ago, Papist said:

Dude, what news channels are you watching? Twitter and social media are all about Trump. The pollsters only go after the aging and increasinly irrelevant TV watching crowd. It's a Brave New World

From the big three networks to Fox News it's mainly agenda polling. There is nothing reality-based in any of these 'polls', and It's likely impossible to do accurate polling of voter sentiment today, other than the November ballot.

Choose wisely.

[philoshop]

16 minutes ago, ATbuckhunter said:

Its a shame that people are hurt for their political views...especially an elderly man. Unfortunately neither side seems to be clean of that. A quick google or even youtube search will show the many attacks committed by trump fans and sometimes its done during a Trump rally. 

Please post facts about one of these attacks. I haven't seen a single one that wasn't a response to a provocation.

[ATbuckhunter]

4 minutes ago, philoshop said:

Please post facts about one of these attacks. I haven't seen a single one that wasn't a response to a provocation.

Just to be clear what do you consider provocation? Do you consider just showing up to the rally and disagreeing with him a  provocation?  Also id like to clarify that i'm not pointing the finger at trump supporters as always being in the wrong, because I believe both sides have been acting dumb. 

[philoshop]

Basic disagreement is one thing, but when it escalates to a level of aggression that could lead to a physical confrontation people have a right and a duty to defend themselves.