Nytracker Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 New to crossbow. Trying rage 100gr crossbow broadheads. They shoot well out of my crossbow at targets . I have no experiance with this mechanical for hunting,but have seen alot of deer kills on the tube. Please don't make it a debate of fixed versus mechanical as I don't have time or money to try a different broadhead this year. Real experience requested. I will be shooting from a wickedridge invader 4 at advertised 360 fps. 20 inch tenpoint bolts. I happen to have a boar black bear on camera every 3 days or so so there is potential a shot. He appears to be 300 lbs or so. Any helpful insight would be appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 that is all i use and my friend use with our crossbows.. mathew mbx400 . as for your bear .i can only say aim 4 in behind shoulder middle of the body.. i would not hesitate to shoot a bear with one. together we have taken 8 deer since crossbow since they became legal. with beat placement is more important imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpStateRedNeck Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I'm in the same boat as tracker, especially in regards to the bear comment you just made. Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytracker Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 G man thanks for the info . Are you using the shock collar that came with the broadhead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) I've shot two deer with a crossbow I have chronographed at about 345 and got pass through on both and two tagged dear. First was with Rage 2-blade chiselpoint with the black rubber bands. More recently I'm using the Rage hypodermic (also 2 blade) with black shock collar. In both cases the broadheads opened properly on entry and cut all the way through. I suppose I do prefer the shock collar to the bands on the xbow as it seems to hold a bit more snug and I do not anticipate any issues at these high FPS with opening. Edited November 2, 2018 by Core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytracker Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 Thanks for the info core... shock collar really stiffens up the blades while in retracted position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Nytracker said: G man thanks for the info . Are you using the shock collar that came with the broadhead? yes you need to use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytracker Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 Kind of figured they put them in package for a reason just concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredbear2 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Muzzy fixes blade for crossbow! Fly great out to 48 yards consistently. Rage I’m not a fan of. Tried crossbow rage did not open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 42 minutes ago, Nytracker said: Kind of figured they put them in package for a reason just concerned Make sure to install them so that the blades are held in by the petals on the collar. When they open they shoot the petals right off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Hoyt Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Tomorrow is the first day I'm crossbow hunting and I'll be using the rage 2 blade 100 grain. Hopefully I'll see how they preform. Rage is the only broadheads I use for my compound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytracker Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 Thanks for the video ... that freaking arrow on the collar is tiny. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greensider Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I only use rage as you will learn there's nothing better but I won't pay for a name I have been using knockoff brands for years with no problem and les than half the cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytracker Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Got to love a big gaping wound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greensider Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I do not understand why you need special head for a crossbow i use the same heads on crossbow and compound they work the same on both no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 hours ago, greensider said: I do not understand why you need special head for a crossbow i use the same heads on crossbow and compound they work the same on both no problem I would guess that because the crossbow shoots faster the regular mechanicals might deploy prematurely . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Have any of you guys used mechanical broadheads more than once ? I bought (6) of the 125 gr o-ring style ones on clearance from Bass Pro about 10 years ago. Back then, I used one on a target, to see if it would fly the same as my 125 gr field tips (it did). Since then, I have shot deer with the other (5), all of which dropped dead in sight or close enough that I could hear them crash (less than 40 yard run after hit). The first two were with my vertical compound, the last three with my crossbow. I used the last new one on a big buck last season, but the high price of new mechanicals kept me from buying more this year. I was able to get pretty good performace on targets with Muzzy and Wasp fixed 3-blade broadheads, so I planned to use those this year. I also stuck my best "used" mechanical in my quiver, after sharpening up the blades with a stone and replacing the o-ring. This afternoon at 3:30 pm, I had that old mechanical on the rail when a fat button buck stepped out into a clover plot, 20 yards from my popup blind. I hit him behind the shoulder. He spun around and hightailed it into the goldenrod after taking the bolt thru both lungs. I thought I heard a crash, so I walked immediately over there and sure enough, he was down just 20 yards in. This was a good-sized bb. It felt like he weighed about 85 pounds field-dressed, when I tossed him into the box on my dad's side-by-side ATV. I will get a chest girth measurement tomorrow, when I go back over there with my wife's van and cargo carrier, to pick him up. Those mechanicals (new or used) seem to be so lethal that I am reluctant to hunt with anything else. I was not able to find the bolt that went thru the bb tonight, but I will look for it some more tomorrow. I did find a couple more of those used mechanicals in my archery "junk drawer". By combining parts and sharpening blades, I was able to get one in decent shape. If I can find the one from today's kill, I will try and get a third deer with that one, now that I know they work for at least two. Mechanical broadhead prices should be slashed severely after gun season opens, and I will buy more at that time. Hopefully the one that I have, and the other I might find, will get me thru tomorrow and Sunday. I am reluctant to hunt with fixed blade broadheads because I have had a few long and difficult tracking jobs with those over the years. The mechanicals, on the other hand, seem to kill them nearly as quick as a rifle ML or shotgun slug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Wolc, you win the internet for longest posts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, turkeyfeathers said: Wolc, you win the internet for longest posts You win for the best outfits 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowin Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I've gotten several deer with the non collar rage broadheads. Shot from 11 yrds to 45 yrds. Haven't had any issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greensider Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I have used them more than once but rarely do they survive impact with what's beyond the deer which is why I refuse to pay 40 for 3 heads i use knockoff rages and have never had one fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 My biggest issue with them is they absolutely destroy the hideSent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytracker Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 And cuts the backstraps in half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nytracker Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Autopsy update. .Entry looked like full deployment. Hit just under spine. Both lungs. One blade contacted spine passing through braking off on far side. Broad head passed through other side sticking out 6 inches or so . When the doe collapsed I could see the bolt on both sides. She raised up on her front throwing herself on the bolt breaking it. For all intent and purposes the broadhead performed perfectly. I couldn't honestly believe my beloved muzzy broadhead could have done better. Would have to wonder if the deer would not have run a ways before dying leaving a marginal blood trail. I don't think the 7/8 inch cutting radius would have caught the spine. The only failure here was me not guaging proper hold for distance. The doe was 32 yds . Knowing she was passed my 30 yd marker I opted to use 40 yard hash mark. I held mid chest in height when I should have held lower on heart. I would have to say the rage broad heads wide cutting surface saved the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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