Are these slugs still good

[Hunter007]

Have this box of 25 year old  Winchester super x slugs 

That lost and  just happened to  have found recently in back of closet but it looks like part of the space material between the slug and powder is gone deteriorated but I'm not sure  look like there is gap in there that was not there when they where new but I'm not sure .

Edited November 26, 2018 by Storm914

[Hunter007]

[Rattler]

Dump them.  Had a friend with a Mossberg bolt action 12 gauge fire an old Rottweil slug in the gun.  Pressure must have been way up, because the bolt set back so far, we needed to hammer it to get it open.  Then we saw it had been pushed back so far it needed to be filed down around the bolt handle to make it work.  Figuring the headspace was now too much, the bolt was replaced with a new one.

If it had been a pump action or a semi, I think the gun would have been far worse off.

I wouldn't shoot them if I were you.

[Buckmaster7600]

Probably but not worth the few dollars you’d save.


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[ny hunter]

Chuck them ......I bet  they are still good but why take a chance..

[Hunter007]

Yea  I'm thinking the same not taking the chance .

I tried looking for a picture on the internet of what there supposed to look like when new  but came up with nothing  they dont make these anymore looks like or they changed the design from back then . 

[rob-c]

Keep a few just for old time sakes and ditch the rest. 

[airedale]

There is nothing abnormal pictured with that slug, the old translucent plastic hulls allowed one to see the way Brenneke designed their slugs with the wad and pedestal screwed into the slug bottom and stays with the slug in flight. The gap you see is the is the pedestal area which cushions the slug a bit to prevent deformation and was supposed to give some stabilization in flight, something like a badminton shuttlecock.

The shelf life of ammo depends on the care that was taken during storage, cool and dry is the way to go. Stored properly it will work fine and be accurate even decades old. Old paper shot shells would swell and weaken with age and I would not fire them in any of my guns.

Al

[Hunter007]

Here is the back of the box with what supposed to be in the slug . Looks like some of the spacer material is deteriorated away . Or they draw the diagram wrong .

 

[airedale]

The slug you are holding in your hand is a Brenneke, the box you are picturing is for Winchester Foster slugs. Looks like someone put Brennekes in a Winchester box.

Al

[Pygmy]

1 minute ago, airedale said:

The slug you are holding in your hand is a Brenneke, the box you are picturing is for Winchester Foster slugs. Looks like someone put Brennekes in a Winchester box.

Al

You beat me to it, Al....My cabinet has quite a few factory loads that don't match the containers... I also have a bunch of shotshells with the markings worn off, mostly 3"  turkey loads...Hehehe...

[Hunter007]

[Hunter007]

4 minutes ago, airedale said:

The slug you are holding in your hand is a Brenneke, the box you are picturing is for Winchester Foster slugs. Looks like someone put Brennekes in a Winchester box.

Al

Dam was thinking something looked strange about them shells say one thing box says something different but there both old  I dont even remember buying these things .

[Daveboone]

They should be fine. Modern ammo components are stable as a rock...exception if there was any chance of them being stored damp.

I would only err on the side of setting them aside for practice/ range rounds.

[Hunter007]

Ok could only find one good picture on the internet of these things  and I dont see no gap like what I see in the ones I have 

 

[airedale]

Ammo is constantly being upgraded and improved, wads are a component that has seen many design changes through the years, all you are seeing pictured is a newer wad that is currently being used, the old Brennekes used a pedestal type wad.

Al

[Hunter007]

[Hunter007]

4 minutes ago, airedale said:

Ammo is constantly being upgraded and improved, wads are a component that has seen many design changes through the years, all you are seeing pictured is a newer wad that is currently being used, the old Brennekes used a pedestal type wad.

Al

Just posted another picture off internet and my sample so your saying that gap is just part of the older design that got changed  .

[airedale]

Yes

[Dom]

They look fine shootem.I would

[Nytracker]

If you don't want them I will take them love brennecki slugs I have a few dozen boxes still I ain't afraid to shoot them.

[Hunter007]

11 minutes ago, airedale said:

Yes

You are right found a picture that clearly shows that gap in it like the ones I have interesting design  

[Pygmy]

When Airedale and I started hunting, the only slugs available were Foster stlye and Brennekes...

Many old timers referred to Brennekes as " Them GERMAN slugs"....Hehehe....

[airedale]

There are several slugs available to hand loaders using a variation of the Brenneke screw attached wads, as you can see they all have their own idea on what is the best design.

I like and use 410 Brennekes in my Savage model 24 over and under 22 LR/ 410

Al

Edited November 26, 2018 by airedale

[turkeyfeathers]

1 hour ago, Pygmy said:

When Airedale and I started hunting, the only slugs available were Foster stlye and Brennekes...

Many old timers referred to Brennekes as " Them GERMAN slugs"....Hehehe....

My dad used to tell me about pumpkin balls that would sometimes roll out the end of the barrel. paper hulls would swell and have to look for the straightest stick you could find to push out the empty