Vaccination

[Robhuntandfish]

2 minutes ago, Four Seasons said:

Exactly. And for some to think it’s not possible for the left or right to pay off these companies to move their agenda along is more than funny. 

Ah there's the voice of reason.  Lol. 

Read this and tell me how much pharma hates Trump and their big plan to hold up vaccination.if they don't love him who do they love?   https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/explaining-operation-warp-speed/index.html

[sbuff]

To everyone that's thinks covid and the vaccine is BS ,lose a family member to covid than come talk to me . 

Edited January 18, 2021 by sbuff

[Lawdwaz]

20 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

I guess it depends on what news you watch.  But if you think "they" have come up with an elaborate plan to let 400,000 people die and have the power (in a Republican white house and Senate), and keep it quiet then I don't know what to tell you.  

If you think Nancy and Chuck are Dr Evil and Catwoman then you give them more credit than they deserve.  

Not everything that goes wrong is a plot to make Trump look bad. Is it so hard to believe that if Biden or Trump is president a rushed govt program that doesn't roll out like it's planned and isnt as effective as they hoped is just that and not a twisted conspiracy?  Or is it more likely a secret plan on the left was formed that no one knows about to stall vaccines from private companies across the world in an effort to make a president that is leaving in 3 days look bad while they are cashing in ...c'mon. 

I am not a fan of most of either side and I don't think either of them needs to have conspiracy theories to make them look bad.  They are capable of doing it all themselves. 

So what's the explanation on where all the vaccine is?

[phantom]

well think of it this way  unless your are a health freak do you  really think that  this vaccine could  be more unhealthy then drinking smoking and eating garbage fast food  and people do that all the time , cold symptoms is about the only side effect I have heard from this thing so far  that  has  been verified   .  

Edited January 18, 2021 by phantom

[Robhuntandfish]

8 minutes ago, Lawdwaz said:

So what's the explanation on where all the vaccine is?

As I already stated.  They are also producing for the rest of the world.  Which signed agreements and had use approved before we did as they don't have any FDA at all.  Our money isn't any better than other countries and it's a free market.  Plus it's not really that far behind.  They said 20 million doses by Jan.  It's still Jan. And govt whether it was sending out a vaccine or an apple or an orange and whether it's headed by the left or the right doesn't move quickly. It's a.huge undertaking that this country has really never seen. Easy for armchair quaterbacks to say what should be done to get it out there. It's another to coordinate it across all the states.  I think it has actually gone better than I expected it to so far.  That being said it can't get out fast enough. 

Is it possible that it is just a huge undertaking for a govt to get done than it is a huge conspiracy that Democrats infiltrated and set up an have allowed people to die so that Trump looks bad in his last 30 days in office?  I'll go with the latter.  

Edited January 18, 2021 by Robhuntandfish

[Jeremy K]

33 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

I guess it depends on what news you watch.  But if you think "they" have come up with an elaborate plan to let 400,000 people die and have the power (in a Republican white house and Senate), and keep it quiet then I don't know what to tell you.  

If you think Nancy and Chuck are Dr Evil and Catwoman then you give them more credit than they deserve.  

Not everything that goes wrong is a plot to make Trump look bad. Is it so hard to believe that if Biden or Trump is president a rushed govt program that doesn't roll out like it's planned and isnt as effective as they hoped is just that and not a twisted conspiracy?  Or is it more likely a secret plan on the left was formed that no one knows about to stall vaccines from private companies across the world in an effort to make a president that is leaving in 3 days look bad while they are cashing in ...c'mon. 

I am not a fan of most of either side and I don't think either of them needs to have conspiracy theories to make them look bad.  They are capable of doing it all themselves. 

You dont think it proves their intentions when it takes them for ever to do anything to assist the president ,as soon as they want to impeach him they get it done before lunch the first day.

[Robhuntandfish]

Just now, Jeremy K said:

You dont think it proves their intentions when it takes them for ever to do anything to assist the president ,as soon as they want to impeach him they get it done before lunch the first day.

When they get what done? Everyone vaccinated?  They can't do what they don't have. And to buy that big pharma is holding back vaccines simply to make him look bad isnt sensible when he has made them even richer. 

I don't disagree Dems did everything they could to deny Trump but that doesn't begin to prove a conspiracy theory about vaccines being held up to make him look bad. That's just an excuse that he doesn't need and this country doesn't need. 

Here's a shocker of a prediction for you....I bet the Republicans do everything they can to make it difficult for Biden. But it still not a conspiracy for them either to let 400,000 people die to make Biden look bad.  That's just sick. Wild conspiracy theories on both sides are just adding to the division. And both extreme sides have them and too many people are believing them on both sides. 

Again I wouldn't give Nancy and Chuck that kinda credit. They are both disgusting to me but I also dont see them as any type of masterminds here.  The most likely conclusion is usually the right one. Govt doesn't move fast well. If you don't believe that see the post office. To say that big pharma is out to hurt Trump is his last days when a Rep senate and white house have been pouring money to them is a weeee bit more unlikely to say the least. But easier for people to find a place to blame.

[Chef]

You dont think it proves their intentions when it takes them for ever to do anything to assist the president ,as soon as they want to impeach him they get it done before lunch the first day.

That goes both ways pal... Supreme Court judges in record time. Come on man


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Lawdwaz]

5 hours ago, Chef said:

now I just need them to open it for fat people so I can get it


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not to be too big a dick but I hope "old and fat" gets it before "younger and fat"...........wink wink.

[Jeremy K]

46 minutes ago, Chef said:

That goes both ways pal... Supreme Court judges in record time. Come on man


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Trump gets things done.

[Chef]

Trump gets things done.

But if Biden gets it done with the vaccine in your eyes it was just a conspiracy to wait and screw Trump... come on


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Four Seasons]

1 hour ago, Robhuntandfish said:

Ah there's the voice of reason.  Lol. 

Read this and tell me how much pharma hates Trump and their big plan to hold up vaccination.if they don't love him who do they love?   https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/explaining-operation-warp-speed/index.html

Regardless of the side or the Prezz.  The cash will always rule the day and the actions 

[BizCT]

Clarify. Has it not been made available to them? Do they not see patients and so they’re reserving their dose for others who are on the frontlines? Or are you arguing that they’re concerned about the vaccine’s safety? Are they also concerned about lizard people and cabals of socialist pedophiles? 

The doctors I know who have chosen not to get the vaccine is for various reasons. They all were offered it weeks ago. One is currently breastfeeding. One is actively trying to get pregnant. But most are healthy, young and just taking a wait and see approach.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Four Seasons]

17 minutes ago, Chef said:

But if Biden gets it done with the vaccine in your eyes it was just a conspiracy to wait and screw Trump... come on


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We will make that decision after we see the 100 million people vaccinated In his first 100 days in office. He is sticking his neck out there for the easy cut. 

[BizCT]

Ok pm me if you want facts. Lol. 
I work doing enough of this during the week. I'm good. I think those numbers you put there can be accurate. I just think for different reasons. But then again I never understood much of downstate on anything else either.  
Must be only upstate people want the vaccine. Just pass along to them they can forward it to the thousands waiting up here. Appreciate it. Tried all week to get a shot for my 83 yo Mom and there isn't one vaccine available in this county to date. 
 

The chart shows Hudson valley both ways. Some of those hospitals are affiliated with each other. The high Yes and low under 50%. Just depends on the hospital


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Jeremy K]

29 minutes ago, Chef said:

But if Biden gets it done with the vaccine in your eyes it was just a conspiracy to wait and screw Trump... come on


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The only thing that's going to change with biden is that it's going to cost all of us more money to live the same life we're living now. 

[Versatile_Hunter]

7 minutes ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

 

The doctors I know who have chosen not to get the vaccine is for various reasons. They all were offered it weeks ago. One is currently breastfeeding. One is actively trying to get pregnant. But most are healthy, young and just taking a wait and see approach.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

 

Nonsense, thats my world. Not 1 of the hundreds of doctors that I know is delaying the vaccine for safety concerns, and that includes pregnant ones. I’ll weigh my anecdote over yours, but there are actual numbers out there, let’s go off that. PSA: if you learn that your doctor didn’t want to get vaccinated, ask for your money back. 

[crappyice]

The only teachers I heard who are not getting it now are not getting it because they are pregnant, wanting to be pregnant (some fear of unknown) and have recently had The Rona and planning getting it after the anti- body time lapses.

I get mine next weekend and got my mom an appointment for early March...wish I could trade with her since her fear of the disease really messed her up.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[phantom]

1 minute ago, Versatile_Hunter said:

Nonsense, thats my world. Not 1 of the hundreds of doctors that I know is delaying the vaccine for safety concerns, and that includes pregnant ones. I’ll weigh my anecdote over yours, but there are actual numbers out there, let’s go off that. PSA: if you learn that your doctor didn’t want to get vaccinated, ask for your money back. 

You personally know hundreds of doctors  ? are they witch doctors ?   or   non medical doctors  ?  most hospitals barely have  100 doctors , usually a little  less   like around 80  is average .  

 

 

[Lawdwaz]

20 minutes ago, Jeremy K said:

The only thing that's going to change with biden is that it's going to cost all of us more money to live the same life we're living now. 

So what’s caused the recent huge spike in gas prices?

[Jeremy K]

12 minutes ago, Lawdwaz said:

So what’s caused the recent huge spike in gas prices?

The holidays drive up the price of gas , expect them to drop in the coming weeks. 

[left field]

This is politics. Punitive politics.

Quote

In addition to his "free-market" comments that were jarring enough to spawn leaks from the March Situation Room meeting first reported by Vanity Fair, senior White House adviser Jared Kushner also had harsh words for New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo. 

"Cuomo didn't pound the phones hard enough to get PPE for his state. ... His people are going to suffer and that's their problem," Kushner said, according to Vanity Fair.

Kushner was pushing back against those arguing for President Donald Trump to use the Defense Production Act to help get personal protective equipment to states.

States were outbidding each other and exacerbating the shortage, which persists today, particularly among nurses.

At the time, Cuomo was taking to the airwaves with his daily press briefings to implore the federal government to stop the bidding wars.

 

Edited January 18, 2021 by left field

[BizCT]

Nonsense, thats my world. Not 1 of the hundreds of doctors that I know is delaying the vaccine for safety concerns, and that includes pregnant ones. I’ll weigh my anecdote over yours, but there are actual numbers out there, let’s go off that. PSA: if you learn that your doctor didn’t want to get vaccinated, ask for your money back. 

Some of them are family members both blood and through marriage. I’m sorry to disappoint you but they aren’t getting vaccinated anytime soon.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Versatile_Hunter]

52 minutes ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

 

Some of them are family members both blood and through marriage. I’m sorry to disappoint you but they aren’t getting vaccinated anytime soon.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

 

No worries... it’s just funny how we usually put more thought into choosing a hunting guide than in choosing a doctor

[Robhuntandfish]

9 hours ago, Four Seasons said:

Regardless of the side or the Prezz.  The cash will always rule the day and the actions 

Now that's the truth!