The Hypocrisy Continues

[Just Lucky]

9 minutes ago, Northcountryman said:

Should we also then erect a statue of other dishonorable people like you described? Ted Bundy? Adolf Hitler?

Theyre both a part of American history as well- would it also make sense?

 

 

 

So we agree, history can be remembered without statues.

Statues are symbolic, not tools for remembering history. 

Statues should be more representative of value, such as Miss. Liberty.

[The_Real_TCIII]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/racist-rock-university-of-wisconsin-madison

 

Thankfully this rock was removed lol. 

[fasteddie]

Bad rock , bad rock .... shame on it !

[The_Real_TCIII]

19 minutes ago, fasteddie said:

Bad rock , bad rock .... shame on it !

I just hope the students recovered

[Northcountryman]

57 minutes ago, Just Lucky said:

So we agree, history can be remembered without statues.

Statues are symbolic, not tools for remembering history. 

Statues should be more representative of value, such as Miss. Liberty.

Youre assumption is kind of a stretch aint it? What i'm saying is, statues are normally erected in veneration of and/or for individuals/events, etc. that are viewed positively, not negatively. We do not agree, i'm afraid. Simply put: Teddy Roosevelt statue: yes, George Floyd statue: no.

[escpen]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/racist-rock-university-of-wisconsin-madison
 
Thankfully this rock was removed lol. 

Insane


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[New York Hillbilly]

8 hours ago, fasteddie said:

Bad rock , bad rock .... shame on it !

You could tell that rock was bad, because it had a long rip rap sheet, and was stoned all the time. : )

[greg54]

Kathy Hochul called the Kensington Expressway in Buffalo a racist roadway. Will the state spend millions of tax dollars to remove it because she thinks it's racist?

[Shoots100]

15 hours ago, diplomat019 said:

You did all of what you claim, but posted it here after the statue was removed. It would have been better to do it before.  
 

Im sorry you feel I berated you, by my rights don’t end when your feelings start.  And I won’t be making a list for your social justice causes.  Often the rabid left ask others to do their work for them.  So very sad. 

This thread is to point out hypocrisy, which is an easy thing to do, with all of the Dems tripping over each other to become the leader of Hypocrisy.

The decision to remove the statue was decided and scheduled in back door dealings, so no one knew when it would happen.

Right from the socialists handbook.

Maybe if you would've let others know about it's removal beforehand, we could've chained ourselves to it ?

Thanks for your help in informing the public and stepping up for the betterment of America.

Oh, you don't want to help, but can berate me for not informing the public soon enough ?

The perfect example of this thread.

 

 

 

[Shoots100]

10 hours ago, Just Lucky said:

So we agree, history can be remembered without statues.

Statues are symbolic, not tools for remembering history. 

Statues should be more representative of value, such as Miss. Liberty.

Your correct, and a George Floyd statue was long overdue, because he could tell you the value of a crack rock from 2 blocks away and the value of that kind of skill is priceless and should be honored with a statue.

He could also tell you if a bill was counterfeit and was actually trying to show the store owner what a counterfeit bill looked like that day, but was unjustly arrested for doing so.

But his real Value, was being on the forefront of firearm ultrasound technology.

He could actually tell if a fetus was ok, by holding a handgun to a pregnant woman's belly.

Maybe if Teddy Roosevelt had those symbolic values, we wouldn't be removing his statue. 

Edited January 22, 2022 by Shoots100

[Dinsdale]

FWIW…..

There have been plenty of times that statue had been targeted for removal since the 60’s.

In the mid 80’s I was in architecture school and the controversy of statues was often discussed as a social context issue in planning public space. None of this is new, including the confederate monuments. That was a big topic in many architecture periodicals at that time, and we covered it in a history course.

The Natural History Museum even has a web page and exhibit on the origins of the statue and how it has been interpreted differently as time has passed.

[Just Lucky]

8 hours ago, Shoots100 said:

Your correct, and a George Floyd statue was long overdue, because he could tell you the value of a crack rock from 2 blocks away and the value of that kind of skill is priceless and should be honored with a statue.

He could also tell you if a bill was counterfeit and was actually trying to show the store owner what a counterfeit bill looked like that day, but was unjustly arrested for doing so.

But his real Value, was being on the forefront of firearm ultrasound technology.

He could actually tell if a fetus was ok, by holding a handgun to a pregnant woman's belly.

Maybe if Teddy Roosevelt had those symbolic values, we wouldn't be removing his statue. 

Relocating the Theodore statue is what the article said. Not destroying. He is not being removed from history. 

The argument that the removal of statues will make history forgotten is  foolish. I have never been to the museum,  or seen the statue, and yet still know who Teddy is . Have you, and do you?

The Floyd statues and murals are as offensive to some as a Stonewall Jackson is to others. If one needs to be destroyed, then so should the other.  It is  hypocritical to be ok with one, but in an uproar over the other, from either side.

Perhaps get involved in the city where Floyds statues are errected to start the movement to have them removed and destroyed. 

 

[Just Lucky]

18 hours ago, Northcountryman said:

Youre assumption is kind of a stretch aint it? What i'm saying is, statues are normally erected in veneration of and/or for individuals/events, etc. that are viewed positively, not negatively. We do not agree, i'm afraid. Simply put: Teddy Roosevelt statue: yes, George Floyd statue: no.

I think the Floyd statue depicts what city life is, a hellhole

[Grouse]

The removal of statues is only one of the ways the left is trying to alter or rewrite history.  Look at CRT and leftist indoctrination in our nations universities.  And it's being done to change the mindset of younger generations to instill hatred of their country in their hearts.  Anyone who can't see where this is headed is just in denial of the goal.  If you have grandchildren, you should be concerned for their future.  The goal is also to get the minorities to hate today's majority, who are demonized as controlling and privileged.  Working hard and being successful is now considered oppressive to those who don't.  Tolerance of leftist lunacy will not turn out well for the majority in the future.

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[Northcountryman]

17 minutes ago, Just Lucky said:

Relocating the Theodore statue is what the article said. Not destroying. He is not being removed from history. 

The argument that the removal of statues will make history forgotten is  foolish. I have never been to the museum,  or seen the statue, and yet still know who Teddy is . Have you, and do you?

That is true and might be an actual solution to the problem in many cases ; having said that, does that mean that ALL statues must be place ONLY in museums so that NOONE is offended ? I don’t know . I don’t think so , but wanted to throw it out there to get others thoughts on this . 
 

 

 

 

 

I agree but that doesn’t mean they’re parallel issues, right? I mean , Stonewall Jackson was an American Traitor , without a doubt,  but was also a pious , virtuous man  by all accounts ; moreover , he demonstrated clearly that he was a military genius during the war in the use of defensive minded tactics , his methods studied for years at West Point , VMI , etc. Nobody can say anywhere near the same thing about Floyd . Those that venerate Floyd and wish to commemorate him are motivated exclusively for the reason he that he was a black man who was a victim of police brutality - period . Is that a good enough reason for commemoration ? 

20 minutes ago, Just Lucky said:

The Floyd statues and murals are as offensive to some as a Stonewall Jackson is to others. If one needs to be destroyed, then so should the other.  It is  hypocritical to be ok with one, but in an uproar over the other, from either side.

[Northcountryman]

11 minutes ago, Just Lucky said:

I think the Floyd statue depicts what city life is, a hellhole

That certainly should not be commemorated. 

[Just Lucky]

47 minutes ago, Northcountryman said:

That is true and might be an actual solution to the problem in many cases ; having said that, does that mean that ALL statues must be place ONLY in museums so that NOONE is offended ? I don’t know . I don’t think so , but wanted to throw it out there to get others thoughts on this . 
 

 

 

 

 

I agree but that doesn’t mean they’re parallel issues, right? I mean , Stonewall Jackson was an American Traitor , without a doubt,  but was also a pious , virtuous man  by all accounts ; moreover , he demonstrated clearly that he was a military genius during the war in the use of defensive minded tactics , his methods studied for years at West Point , VMI , etc. Nobody can say anywhere near the same thing about Floyd . Those that venerate Floyd and wish to commemorate him are motivated exclusively for the reason he that he was a black man who was a victim of police brutality - period . Is that a good enough reason for commemoration ? 

There is no debate that floyds life had any value to society.  But his death is certainly debatable 

[The_Real_TCIII]

There is no debate that floyds life had any value to society.  But his death is certainly debatable 

The world is a better place with him gone and that cop in jail


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[Just Lucky]

46 minutes ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

The world is a better place with him gone and that cop in jail


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I agree

[Four Seasons]

On 1/21/2022 at 1:15 PM, Northcountryman said:

Youre assumption is kind of a stretch aint it? What i'm saying is, statues are normally erected in veneration of and/or for individuals/events, etc. that are viewed positively, not negatively. We do not agree, i'm afraid. Simply put: Teddy Roosevelt statue: yes, George Floyd statue: no.

Exactly. The left tears down the so called bad statue’s of the past yet they just came out with wax life size of useless Joe and whatever that Vice President is. Perfect. 

[Just Lucky]

6 hours ago, Grouse said:

The removal of statues is only one of the ways the left is trying to alter or rewrite history.  Look at CRT and leftist indoctrination in our nations universities.  And it's being done to change the mindset of younger generations to instill hatred of their country in their hearts.  Anyone who can't see where this is headed is just in denial of the goal.  If you have grandchildren, you should be concerned for their future.  The goal is also to get the minorities to hate today's majority, who are demonized as controlling and privileged.  Working hard and being successful is now considered oppressive to those who don't.  Tolerance of leftist lunacy will not turn out well for the majority in the future.

Are you running any go fund me, or donating money to museums in order to keep the statues and exhibits on display? 

I am sure sharing the information were donations are being collected would be more beneficial then fear mongering about the end of the civilization. 

[Grouse]

Maybe you should look into the fall of Rome.

[Chef]

Meanwhile we are erecting statues of George Floyd. 

See to me that is disgusting…. Did he deserve to die… no… was he murdered yes.

Is a still a petty criminal… 100%


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[Chef]

There is no debate that floyds life had any value to society.  But his death is certainly debatable 

His death is not debatable… his killer was convicted of murder…

That being said Floyd is no idol for anyone.. just your run of the mill common criminal who put in self In a bad situation.


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[Chef]

Exactly. The left tears down the so called bad statue’s of the past yet they just came out with wax life size of useless Joe and whatever that Vice President is. Perfect. 

See here is your issue…. You disagree with her politics fine..

But when you say… what ever ever Vice President is you sound like a idiot and any other point you make gets drowned out.


Is she a horrendous VP 100% is she a person yes. Why talk like a child


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