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Deer management draft proposal recently released by the DEC.


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DEC has developed a draft Deer Management Plan for New York State. This process began in 2009 when DEC hosted a series of meetings across the state to engage New Yorkers in a discussion of deer management issues and to solicit the public's input on deer management priorities (see Public Meetings on Deer Management). DEC then contracted with the Human Dimensions Research Unit at Cornell University to complete a formal survey of New York deer hunters (see Statewide Deer Hunter Survey - 2010 (PDF); 516 kB) to further explore specific issues that emerged during the public meetings. Input from the public and results of various hunters surveys were used by DEC biologists and managers to help develop the recommendations and management actions contained in the draft plan.

The draft plan describes six primary goals that encompass the current priorities for deer management and the values and issues expressed by the public:

  1. Manage deer populations at levels that are appropriate for human and ecological concerns;
  2. Promote and enhance deer hunting as an important recreational activity, tradition, and population management tool in New York;
  3. Reduce negative impacts caused by deer;
  4. Foster public understanding and communication about deer ecology, deer management, economic aspects and recreational opportunities;
  5. Manage deer to promote healthy and sustainable forests and enhance habitat conservation efforts to benefit deer and other species; and
  6. Ensure that the necessary resources are available to support sound management of white-tailed deer in New York.

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Or here: http://www.dec.ny.go...eerplan0611.pdf

And more info here: http://www.dec.ny.go...imals/7211.html

View attachment: draftdeerplan06111.pdf

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How did this turn into a old fat vs young fat discussion? I step out for a couple hours and look what happens...shesh

Dave interestingly enough all though as a nation we are fatter than years ago our average life expectancy has increased over time. Are some kids fat, yes, are some adults fat too, absolutely. It has more to do with what we eat and the lack of physical activity combined together. There are far less fresh foods eaten but far more medical help than back when you were a young pup.

And steve correct me if I am wrong but isn't a video of fasteddie you posted?  ;)

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Yeah, Doe, isn't it funny how I try to post something humorous and then some take it all wrong?  Then they say we start trouble. LOL

No, actually I don't think it's fasteddie.  I think he has a bit more manners than the guy on the video.  I will try to find out who he is and will post his name when I find out.  I do already have a couple of hunches, though.

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Yeah, Doe, isn't it funny how I try to post something humorous and then some take it all wrong?  Then they say we start trouble. LOL

No, actually I don't think it's fasteddie.  I think he has a bit more manners than the guy on the video.  I will try to find out who he is and will post his name when I find out.  I do already have a couple of hunches, though.

You can scratch me off the list of suspects, I still have all my hair.

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Yeah, Doe, isn't it funny how I try to post something humorous and then some take it all wrong?  Then they say we start trouble. LOL

No, actually I don't think it's fasteddie.  I think he has a bit more manners than the guy on the video.  I will try to find out who he is and will post his name when I find out.  I do already have a couple of hunches, though.

You can scratch me off the list of suspects, I still have all my hair.

In order for me to do that, you will need to provide me with front and back photos of your head.  We are cleaning things up around here as you know, and are starting to require several  forms of proof to anything anyone says.  LOL

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And don't try to pass any of that DNA stuff off as proof

I do think that the guy in that video most deffinitely left some DNA evidence behind to compare it to.

and yes I intend a pun when I say things like Left and Behind...

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Yeah, Doe, isn't it funny how I try to post something humorous and then some take it all wrong?  Then they say we start trouble. LOL

No, actually I don't think it's fasteddie.  I think he has a bit more manners than the guy on the video.  I will try to find out who he is and will post his name when I find out.  I do already have a couple of hunches, though.

You can scratch me off the list of suspects, I still have all my hair.

In order for me to do that, you will need to provide me with front and back photos of your head.  We are cleaning things up around here as you know, and are starting to require several  forms of proof to anything anyone says.  LOL

I can photoshop one of the images in the video,but I would probably catch hell for it.

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Rich doesnt have the influence he makes out to have. Hes full of alot of hot air and passes his personal opinion off as how the majority feels about things.

Just speaking from my experiences with him on AT.

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Rich doesnt have the influence he makes out to have. Hes full of alot of hot air and passes his personal opinion off as how the majority feels about things.

Just speaking from my experiences with him on AT.

I dont know him from a bag of a******* but he says he has alot of support for this from folks in his region. Its alot better of a plan than that crap the DEC came up with so if he can get things rolling we should support it.

Like I said, thats how he presents his opinions on AT and a few other forums. I have never seen any of his "plans" gain any traction. There are a couple of decent things in there but nothing that I really think the DEC would go for that they havent already detailed in their own plan.

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8 –  Lower archery discharge distance to 150 feet from public road or structure –  statewide

Sorry totally disagree with this one...you were doing OK up to that point....I live deep in the woods...my live stock is in the woods and I have seen just how far a deflected arrow can travel...no way....500ft for all weapons....

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8 –  Lower archery discharge distance to 150 feet from public road or structure –  statewide

Sorry totally disagree with this one...you were doing OK up to that point....I live deep in the woods...my live stock is in the woods and I have seen just how far a deflected arrow can travel...no way....500ft for all weapons....

just what you would expect from this joker ;D  500 feet for archery is ridiculous, there are places in this state that are swelling with deer and hunters can't get access because of the 500 feet thing.

i think she's more concerned with getting an arrow in her arse for possibly being mistaken as livestock :)

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8 –  Lower archery discharge distance to 150 feet from public road or structure –  statewide

Correct me if Im wrong, but you dont need to be 150 or even 500 feet from a road to discharge a bow or gun currently. You just cant shoot across a road.

If you really look through that plan, theres alot of issues. Both bad ideas and things that make no sense.

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8 –  Lower archery discharge distance to 150 feet from public road or structure –  statewide

Correct me if Im wrong, but you dont need to be 150 or even 500 feet from a road to discharge a bow or gun currently. You just cant shoot across a road.

Exactly ! Since when do you have to be a certain distance from any public highway to discharge a bow or firearm. Now I am confused.

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8 –  Lower archery discharge distance to 150 feet from public road or structure –  statewide

Correct me if Im wrong, but you dont need to be 150 or even 500 feet from a road to discharge a bow or gun currently. You just cant shoot across a road.

Exactly ! Since when do you have to be a certain distance from any public highway to discharge a bow or firearm. Now I am confused.

If you pay any attention to the ideas Rich Davenport has, you get used to it.  ;D

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actually if you look in the guide book. You only have to be off the maintained part of the highway, and no part of your arrow or bullet can pass over the road. In other words past the ditch line, and you have to be 500 feet from an occupied dwelling, church or school , unless you have permission.  however legal does not mean ethical.  Page 18 guide book public highway definition middle column  then lower in the same column manner of taking, it is illegal  to take game on or from a public highway.  Page 18 last column discharge of firearms and bows.  The whole 500 feet from a road is a fallacy, which makes it tough to lower it to 150 feet lol.

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I believe some state parks have setbacks from road requirements.

current law states you can shoot with you back to a road as long as you are shooting away from the road and not over it.  the 500ft from dwellings (sheds and barns included)  is for guns and bows. now for guns i can see having the 500 ft setback, but for bows it just stupid. the vast majority of bow hunters hunt from elevated stands and shoot down, so as far as "Grows too much's" theory about getting an arrow shot into her livestock rearend is a pure joke, her rear is more than safe ;D

the areas that are most affected by deer over population are mostly towns villages and lower NY state/long island etc, these areas are already burdened by anti hunting groups and almost everything else under the sun. decreasing from 500 to say 300 or maybe 250 would open up alot of new areas for hunters in lower NY state, and there are some huge deer in those areas not to mention. ;D

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Your comments on arrows in my back side is no better than what I would ever anticipate from you Sits In Trees

Back the the issue....150ft is a mere 50 yrds...now I know Everyone here are just perfect and never had an errant arrow and I'm sure you know nothing but other perfect hunters...Well I'm honest enough to admit I'm not and we all know I don't have a lot of perfect hunters around me....

2 examples:

deciding to lengthen practice out to 40 yrds...my shot went over the targets back....mind you 40yrds...traveled another 10yrds ...hit a boulder.....defected up and I found that arrow another 60 yrds...give or take 3...stuck in a tree 6ft high....total 110ydrs or 330 ft....from a  older bow shooting 51 #

Another time shooting from a 16ft stand during practice...my hand was tired and upon drawing the arrow released...now when I draw I do so as if at ground level and then bend at waist.....well I never found that arrow and looked for hours...because it had traveled through our woods a very long ways before I lost sight of it......but hey just because no one ever talks of their mistakes ...they don't happen

There aren't enough conflicts between hunters and non hunters and property lines going on

Hey lets put more ppl out there on less land then start throwing the safety measures out the window too.......

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