Are we still getting new members?

[Doc]

I'm confused. I read on here somewhere that this site was no longer accepting new members now that Burmjohn has come up missing. And yet, down at the bottom of the main forum index page I find little circles with letters inside that indicate members that have been on the site in the last 24 hours. If you hold the mouse over those circles, you will get a drop down window that gives the name and date of joining. I did that with all of them, and found 17 members who have joined since January of this year. There were several who joined since today.

So, according to that we have members still joining all the time. Does anyone know people who have joined recently? 

[landtracdeerhunter]

Hackers?

[Doc]

8 hours ago, landtracdeerhunter said:

Hackers?

Really?

[fasteddie]

Some of the alleged members joined 21 hours ago . Odd that so many joined at the same time . one of them has a hunting location listed as Serbia .

 

[Doc]

So this forum is indeed doomed to a slow death. With no new members coming in to replace those who die or leave, the numbers will continue to dwindle, with the only new members being hackers. That would explain the lack of participation here. I remember all those newbies that used to post and respond to posts back in the days when this was a growing forum. Now it is just a handful of us old-timers that do any posting, and any responding to the few posts that we have. That is sad.

I've been here 15 years, but I wonder how much longer my membership continues to make any sense. Without Owner participation, this forum is doomed. Why it hasn't been turned over to someone else, I can't imagine. For the Owner to just simply abandon the site and all the people in it, seems like a most irresponsible act that is a slap in the face to all the hunters that have counted on this form of communication between outdoorsmen and women.

[steve863]

17 minutes ago, Doc said:

So this forum is indeed doomed to a slow death. With no new members coming in to replace those who die or leave, the numbers will continue to dwindle, with the only new members being hackers. That would explain the lack of participation here. I remember all those newbies that used to post and respond to posts back in the days when this was a growing forum. Now it is just a handful of us old-timers that do any posting, and any responding to the few posts that we have. That is sad.

I've been here 15 years, but I wonder how much longer my membership continues to make any sense. Without Owner participation, this forum is doomed. Why it hasn't been turned over to someone else, I can't imagine. For the Owner to just simply abandon the site and all the people in it, seems like a most irresponsible act that is a slap in the face to all the hunters that have counted on this form of communication between outdoorsmen and women.

At least one of the old timers here admits that this place is doomed.  The few other regulars keep telling us that it's thriving and better than ever.  LOL

[mowin]

I know this isn't going to be popular.

What ever the reason bumjohn abandoned the site, the fact is only he can authorize new members, and he hasn't let anyone in for quite sometime. 

Members got frustrated and a few even tried purchasing the site, including the owner of "the site we can't name" or get banned, with no response either way from the owner.  

More and more members left here looking for something else.  Most got a "good riddance" and you won't be missed goodbye. 

Lots of fantastic data, and information given out over the years. It would be a shame to see it go dark.  But now, realistically, this site is a group of guys in a chatroom not a forum. 

[grampy]

48 minutes ago, mowin said:

I know this isn't going to be popular.

What ever the reason bumjohn abandoned the site, the fact is only he can authorize new members, and he hasn't let anyone in for quite sometime. 

Members got frustrated and a few even tried purchasing the site, including the owner of "the site we can't name" or get banned, with no response either way from the owner.  

More and more members left here looking for something else.  Most got a "good riddance" and you won't be missed goodbye. 

Lots of fantastic data, and information given out over the years. It would be a shame to see it go dark.  But now, realistically, this site is a group of guys in a chatroom not a forum. 

burmjohn bailed on this site years ago! He took members money for merch, and bailed on that too! I know for fact, that the owner from "the other NY outdoors forum" tried unsuccessfully to purchase this site for over two years! He wanted to keep this place going!! With the old, and new members coming, like it used to be, to keep it growing.. But again burmjohn bailed! So.....this place will certainly die a slow painful death, like a gut shot deer, with no chance of living on.

There are still some guy's here that I have huge respect for!! Doc is surely among them. I check in here periodically just to see what's up. But rarely post anymore, because I was made to feel unwelcome by some members here, because I joined the "other" site too. Like so many others did from here. So be it. I don't think I'm missed much here. 

But I can guarantee, that if anyone joins the"other" site, they will be welcomed!!! It's growing over there!! With new members, and ideas coming in all the time! And even free give aways to members from the owner!! Imagine that here??  And you can still come here too, you don't have to give this up. I haven't.. Like I said, some great members here that I've shared ideas with for years. And value their content and experience greatly!! As a chosen moderator on the "otherside" I will be among the first to welcome you!! It never was 'us against them' for me. It doesn't have to be for those holdouts here either. You can do both, and enjoy getting answers to your posts again

[fasteddie]

Yes , burmjohn had the opportunity to sell the site as he had offers to sell . As long as the site is making money for him , the site will be around . There are those on another site that are hoping for this site's failure especially some whiners how were banned for various reasons .   Keep on truckin' ............

[Four Seasons]

22 minutes ago, fasteddie said:

Yes , burmjohn had the opportunity to sell the site as he had offers to sell . As long as the site is making money for him , the site will be around . There are those on another site that are hoping for this site's failure especially some whiners how were banned for various reasons .   Keep on truckin' ............

And the ones above that keep bashing this site while promoting the other site should be thrown out on their ass and not allowed to speak a word on this site regardless of the length of time it’s left breathing. 

[Robhuntandfish]

Haven't been on in a long time.  Always like your content @Doc. You weren't around when all this kinda fell apart. But I can give you the recap...

- a few people including the mods here tried to contact the owner and he won't respond to them.  Which is huge disrespect to the mods here that hung on.  Why at this point to be loyal to him is beyond me and their own decision.  Only Eddie is left and he quit for 18 months as well at one point. And I can't blame him. John and Geno are basically gone and have been. 

- a bunch of people bought some t shirts and never got shirts or their money back

- a bunch of members that accidentally got logged out couldn't log back in and couldn't get any help to do this.  Including some long time members. 

- a few tried to buy the place and no response. Again the owners prerogative.  

- the website domain was about to expire and many thought it may not be renewed as there is an absentee landlord.  

- there was zero direction here which every online system needs some oversight. It's just the way it is or it's a mess.  It became all political with most of the topics being of this nature and all just arguments.  

- one bully and one guy posting only mass political content needed moding but it wasn't done.  Most would have stayed if this happened 

- no new members have been able to join since 2022 except for spammers and hackers. 

- add content got difficult to get thru

So am opportunity came up with a person that has another site with the same content started a new site.  Within a couple of months 95% of the most regular posters moved over.  There is a reason for that.  We all enjoyed this site and how it was setup and wanted it to continue but it was falling apart. I for one hoped that it didnt close.  I still look in on some guys here including yourself, first light, Cory, etc.  

I kept stating that the one guy that pummeled this site with political postings was a bad thing for it and that he was prob paid to do this.  I find it interesting he is now no longer posting.  And the one bully on here being unchecked was enough for most of us.  It's sad as I and many others enjoyed this site for so long.  But without some direction on an Internet site it's gonna be a mess. 

If posting this gets me banned when the bully stops his feet I guess so be it.  Hopefully some others will come over and join the other site and would be welcomed.  It's a breath of fresh air and as I said before you can be members of both it's not a contest.  And although some talk about this site and the old days the vast majority moved on and are not worried about what happens here anymore.  Been 2 years since I signed in, prob be 2 years before I do again. Whats sad is about an hour of work by the owner and it could be what it once was.  People reaching out to others on this site to join is because they still want to interact with them and miss their content and character.  An invite is not a bash to this site it's a - hope you come over there too!.  The bully on this site that is always negative and hates everyone likes it just fine the way it is now cause he doesn't get any pushback anymore.  Silencing others is more about that person than the 95% of people that left that really didn't want to. An hour of the owners time apparently isn't worth it to fix it. Good luck folks hope the site keeps rolling on for you.  See you in a couple years.  Maybe.... Lol. 

All you have to do is look at these two pics below of the people with the most reputation and the most content and they are all basically gone -says about everything. 

[First-light]

This is my main site but I did join the other one and post occasionally. I do wonder the days when it goes down for hours that it won't come back. Somehow it is being maintained. It will end one day, then I'll be full time at the other site. No harm no foul. 

[First-light]

I guess I was lucky when I ordered gear from the site. John actually sent me a bunch of other thing along with my order, it was nice. 

[Doc]

This kind of behavior from a forum owner is really quite bizarre. I am wondering if something happened to him. None of it seems logical.

[NYBowhunter]

1 minute ago, First-light said:

I guess I was lucky when I ordered gear from the site. John actually sent me a bunch of other thing along with my order, it was nice. 

I'm glad he honored your order, you are one of the lucky ones. To be honest he's a scumbag for taking other members money and not giving them thier merch. 

[NYBowhunter]

Just now, Doc said:

This kind of behavior from a forum owner is really quite bizarre. I am wondering if something happened to him. None of it seems logical.

Not bizarre, he took members money and ran. That's a scumbag in my book. People and moderators have tried to reach him with no success. I don't do facebook but I wonder if someone can locate him there or on any other social media?

[Robhuntandfish]

21 minutes ago, Doc said:

This kind of behavior from a forum owner is really quite bizarre. I am wondering if something happened to him. None of it seems logical.

 

18 minutes ago, NYBowhunter said:

Not bizarre, he took members money and ran. That's a scumbag in my book. People and moderators have tried to reach him with no success. I don't do facebook but I wonder if someone can locate him there or on any other social media?

A bunch tried Facebook and no response.  Including the mods.  John said he was still very active on Facebook but didn't respond to him either.  He's walked away which is his prerogative as he is the owner.  But why anyone stays out of some sort of loyalty is beyond me.   He prob just tired of it and still pulls in a little $ without doing anything so why close it.  

[mowin]

20 minutes ago, NYBowhunter said:

Not bizarre, he took members money and ran. That's a scumbag in my book. People and moderators have tried to reach him with no success. I don't do facebook but I wonder if someone can locate him there or on any other social media?

According to a few members still here, John is very much active on FB, and will not respond to anyone here, including the mods.  He's obviously making money on the site, and there's some sort of maintenance going on, as sites need updating, and that's not free. 

[mowin]

1 minute ago, Robhuntandfish said:

 

A bunch tried Facebook and no response.  Including the mods.  John said he was still very active on Facebook but didn't respond to him either.  He's walked away which is his prerogative as he is the owner.  But why anyone stays out of some sort of loyalty is beyond me.   He prob just tired of it and still pulls in a little $ without doing anything so why close it.  

Lol, you beat me to it. 

[NYBowhunter]

2 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

 

A bunch tried Facebook and no response.  Including the mods.  John said he was still very active on Facebook but didn't respond to him either.  He's walked away which is his prerogative as he is the owner.  But why anyone stays out of some sort of loyalty is beyond me.   He prob just tired of it and still pulls in a little $ without doing anything so why close it.  

Exactly, the very few here keep this site going which generates income for a guy that screwed over members. Why the loyalty to a social forum is just mind boggling. People are holding onto this place like it's a part of thier family...lol

[Robhuntandfish]

16 minutes ago, NYBowhunter said:

Exactly, the very few here keep this site going which generates income for a guy that screwed over members. Why the loyalty to a social forum is just mind boggling. People are holding onto this place like it's a part of thier family...lol

I can understand it some. Hell I talked to the guys on here more than most of my family.  Lol.   But to say it's "better" now is just ridiculous.  And it could be fixed with minimal effort 

[NYBowhunter]

6 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

I can understand it some. Hell I talked to the guys on here more than most of my family.  Lol.   But to say it's "better" now is just ridiculous.  And it could be fixed with minimal effort 

I just don't get the loyalty to a social media platform when a much better alternative is available.  Have you seen some of the threads here, some are back and forth conversations with just 2 to 4 members. If thats the case you might as well just text each other.

[airedale]

And here we go again! Can you former members just not let it go any leave us alone?

Not one thing has changed for me when it comes to this board, I will use it the way I have since I joined. I am here to gain information about the outdoors and share anything that I think that may help others. If I make a post and just one person gains something from that post it was worth my time to post it and worth their time to read it, it is that simple.

I am not going anywhere, I like it here just fine and will never join the other board.

Al

 

[Four Seasons]

16 minutes ago, airedale said:

And here we go again! Can you former members just not let it go any leave us alone?

Not one thing has changed for me when it comes to this board, I will use it the way I have since I joined. I am here to gain information about the outdoors and share anything that I think that may help others. If I make a post and just one person gains something from that post it was worth my time to post it and worth their time to read it, it is that simple.

I am not going anywhere, I like it here just fine and will never join the other board.

Al

 

Exactly. Yet the same ones… just like the original owner of the other site did…come here pushing their wares over and over. Instant Ban!   Funny thing is one look over there and it’s the same exact posters every single day and they blow it up like it’s a rockin place. I can live without seeing post after post of a so called top Turkey expert that has not shot a mature Tom in years, or a guy that says antlers mean nothing to him yet after years and he shoots one with more then 4 points it’s shown 35 times on every post made. Or maybe what kind of alcohol you are drinking. Yeah, not so much. 

Edited 9 hours ago by Four Seasons

[fasteddie]

I am almost 84 Years old . I don't know how many more years i have abut I am not bailing out on this site . Maybe I will be the lone survivor .