NY village agrees to hire federal sharpshooters to cull deer

[NFA-ADK]

​Yes they have been doing this in one of our parks for years, lol.  It worked so well they had to open the season in my town to allow bow hunters back in!  Because the people are still complaining about how high the population is!  Snipers are not hunters and can not hunt in residential areas!  So they can only kill deer in open area's away from houses.  Again it has worked out so well the population has exploded and they HAD to open the deer season because so many complained about how the snipers are not working! 

 

Great fix!  Bet the population gets worse.  Like some have said let them deal with it.  When it really gets crazy and beg for real help they will open the season back up to bow hunters.  Not here to argue but to say snipers are the only and or best solution is delusional!

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[skully]

​Yes they have been doing this in one of our parks for years, lol.  It worked so well they had to open the season in my town to allow bow hunters back in!  Because the people are still complaining about how high the population is!  Snipers are not hunters and can not hunt in residential areas!  So they can only kill deer in open area's away from houses.  Again it has worked out so well the population has exploded and they HAD to open the deer season because so many complained about how the snipers are not working! 

 

Great fix!  Bet the population gets worse.  Like some have said let them deal with it.  When it really gets crazy and beg for real help they will open the season back up to bow hunters.  Not here to argue but to say snipers are the only and or best solution is delusional!

 

I do not know what kind of snipers there using by you but over here they put out tons and tons  of apples in 4 designated safe areas the week before the first hunt.  In 4 nights the snipers killed 200 plus deer.  They friggin wiped out the vassar farm population.

[518BowSlayer]

how about trap them and send them to the capital region?? over population sounds like a dream!!

[wildcat junkie]

how about trap them and send them to the capital region?? over population sounds like a dream!!

 

The mortality rate for trapped & relocated deer is very high.

 

[wildcat junkie]

over here they put out tons and tons  of apples in 4 designated safe areas the week before the first hunt..

 

Works for me!

Edited January 14, 2016 by wildcat junkie

[Jeremy K]

Surely the locals would know where the deer are , it would be a shame if people were out taking walks at night and their flashlights were to bright for someone sniping deer with night vision .

[22Plinker]

I can't say that I am super familiar with fayetteville.  I go to Green Lakes to fish as well as the Erie Canal but I am curious where these professional snipers are going to be shooting from.

[Lawdwaz]

I am curious where these professional snipers are going to be shooting from.

 

Under the cover of darkness they sneak into neighborhoods, climb up onto roofs and perch right next to your warm chimneys, sniping the unsuspecting deer munching on your arborvitaes.

 

Then, the deer that DON'T sneak off wounded are drug out by illegal immigrants, gutted and tossed in the meat wagon.  After the nights shoot is over, they take them to the city dump and pull the dump bed lever...........  

[22Plinker]

Under the cover of darkness they sneak into neighborhoods, climb up onto roofs and perch right next to your warm chimneys, sniping the unsuspecting deer munching on your arborvitaes.

 

Then, the deer that DON'T sneak off wounded are drug out by illegal immigrants, gutted and tossed in the meat wagon.  After the nights shoot is over, they take them to the city dump and pull the dump bed lever...........  

 

In all seriousness... I recently looked at the tax maps for that area trying to find landowners for some of the small ponds in the area looking for private fishing spots.  There is not a lot of public land is open to gun use.  The state parks and Erie Canal would still need state approval to even bring guns on their property.  Plus is this passing of this agenda allowing the snipers to go on private landowners property to shoot or retrieve?

[Jeremy K]

Under the cover of darkness they sneak into neighborhoods, climb up onto roofs and perch right next to your warm chimneys, sniping the unsuspecting deer munching on your arborvitaes.

 

Then, the deer that DON'T sneak off wounded are drug out by illegal immigrants, gutted and tossed in the meat wagon.  After the nights shoot is over, they take them to the city dump and pull the dump bed lever...........  

You forgot to add that the fuel for their dump truck was taken from the local orphanage's heating oil tank. 

[Bowguy 1]

Well if the suppressed rifles are illegal under state law and these guys are federal ...Not law enforcement officers?? Couldn't a law suit be filed to stop them?..I mean this is town/probably state funds as well and against state laws.

That's what I was thinking

[Bowguy 1]

This is also done regularly in Princeton, NJ, (where they banned all hunting by making discharge of ANY weapon illegal) but they use a private company called "White Buffalo". They shoot semi auto black rifles with silencers at night over bait (none of which is legal for hunting in NJ) and often do not recover the dead deer. They charge taxpayers $1000 per deer and they report how many they have killed without the carcasses.

Bowhunters in NJ would be happy to PAY to hunt there, but Princeton is more concerned with control than saving tax dollars.

If this town in NY follows the lead of most other places that do this, they will simply be spending a lot of tax money to kill deer, when they could allow bow hunters to do it and make money off of them.

Baiting in NJ is legal, but imo unsporting. Never heard of the night hunts n I thought bow hunting was allowed there.

It will run the gamut n if NJ is at an example, they'll try the sharpshooters, contraception, etc as was already stated n than let you have at it. Towns aren't paying for this forever n the deer regenerate.

NJ towns/parks once off limits are now actively seeking hunters even posting signs n putting articles in papers

[Doc]

Plus is this passing of this agenda allowing the snipers to go on private landowners property to shoot or retrieve?

Retrieval rights should be no problem. The resident either gives permission, or lives with the stink of the rotting carcass....... his choice.

[NFA-ADK]

If you really think urban hunting is not possible you should look at the map of Suffolk County.  Huntington my home town is now legal to hunt in!  (We use to have a no discharge law!)

 

Most of these culls with sharp shooters are done in open area's away from houses, not very effective for deer that stay in the urban settings.

 

If you look at any of the Hamptons on the map you would see that urban hunting is alive and well.  We have been doing it on LI for years.  Simply put bow hunters are the only real long term cost effective solution to urban population issues. 

 

 

Edited January 14, 2016 by NFA-ADK

[132 eight pointer]

The deer ticks are NUTS in that area... the park  has tried for the last 30 years to have a bow only season which has been met with the same resistance as the Fayetteville bow hunt in all of those 30 years.

 

Such a shame that even with people becoming sick from tick bites there are still people that will not accept hunting as a management tool against Lyme Disease. I wonder if any anti-hunters have reconsidered.

[skully]

If you really think urban hunting is not possible you should look at the map of Suffolk County.  Huntington my home town is now legal to hunt in!  (We use to have a no discharge law!)

 

Most of these culls with sharp shooters are done in open area's away from houses, not very effective for deer that stay in the urban settings.

 

If you look at any of the Hamptons on the map you would see that urban hunting is alive and well.  We have been doing it on LI for years.  Simply put bow hunters are the only real long term cost effective solution to urban population issues. 

 

We are talking about little villages with no acreage of woods  at all.  big difference from suffolk county.  You do realize half of suffolk county is all woods and undeveloped? It is not even a close comparison.

[mike rossi]

This is statewide, not just Fayetville. APHIS got 984 comments so far, if you want to read them or comment go here: 

 

 

http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketBrowser;rpp=25;po=0;D=APHIS-2015-0093

[NFA-ADK]

Yes but we are not hunting the woods per say we are in the back of these houses!  No woods needed it just obstructs my shot!  Most of these area's still have some small pieces of woods in the back yards but open area is great for bow.  Most of those woods are state land and controlled by the DEC.  We hunt them to but the urban area's hold more deer.

We are talking about little villages with no acreage of woods  at all.  big difference from suffolk county.  You do realize half of suffolk county is all woods and undeveloped? It is not even a close comparison.

 

Edited January 19, 2016 by NFA-ADK

[NFA-ADK]

Let the ticks do their work, eventually they will all contract lyme and wonder, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG.  We call it east enders disease because most people who go outside and work on the east end of the Island get it. 

Such a shame that even with people becoming sick from tick bites there are still people that will not accept hunting as a management tool against Lyme Disease. I wonder if any anti-hunters have reconsidered.

 

[the blur]

Fire Island residents are just as stupid. They want the deer sterilized, and they think this will reduce the population. I keep telling them if they sterilize 10,000 deer, you still have 10,000 deer !!! and 10 million ticks.

[skully]

Yea but the fire island deer are tame.  That would not even be fun.  No sport at all.