stoneam2006 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Ok sence I don't post on AT alot and have come fond on all you guys and your opinions have any of you shot the rage knock offs on ebay....under 20 bucks for 6 of them... They have really great reviews on AT and YouTube just say to sharpen when purchased think I'm going to get some for testing with the new arrows...anyone ever tried them? Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I have a dozen, bought them based on reviews from that thread. I haven't shot them yet but I'll post up when I try them out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I bought some knockoff Shcwackers too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 I feel bad for buying them as I'm in a shop battling with China but they charge to much for them they are not worth that much imo Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I wouldn't pay for "real" rages in a million years, cost is ridiculous. It's not my fault they bought every celebrity in the industry 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Ive heard some bad things about them, but i'm interested to see how you guys like them. The one thing that gets me is that rage already has some what of a reputation for not deploying, I wouldn't want to risk using a knock off that can be made with lesser quality steel when its the moment of truth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Ive heard some bad things about them, but i'm interested to see how you guys like them. The one thing that gets me is that rage already has some what of a reputation for not deploying, I wouldn't want to risk using a knock off that can be made with lesser quality steel when its the moment of truth.That's my worry too but the reviews are quite good and for under 20 bucks figured worth a shot Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 That's my worry too but the reviews are quite good and for under 20 bucks figured worth a shot Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk I agree, for 20 bucks you can't go wrong. I'm actually giving rages one last season and see how they preform. If they don't preform the way I like for a second time, ill probably be going to a fixed blade BH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billdogge Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I got them. Haven't used on game yet but all good so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Don't by cheap broad heads. Check out the WASP site. https://www.wasparchery.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tughill Tamer Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Now you guys got me worried about the Rage hypodermics I bought last year, I never got a chance to shoot them at a deer last year and now I'm hearing they have a reputation for not diploying? Great! Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) I used Rage for the first time last year on two deer, I was quite pleased with them and will use them again.....I think any broadhead will get some bad reviews somewhere along the line. The Hypodermic +P is supposed to have a stronger blade retention collar so I will get them this year.............as for buying cheap knockoffs?, no thanks, I'll spend the extra $20.00 for the real ones and that would go for pretty much any product I buy, but especially not a mechanical broadhead from China. I might buy them just to see how they're constructed in comparison to the real ones, maybe see the blade sharpness, thickness and all that other important stuff, you gotta figure they scrimped somewhere along the line. Edited July 15, 2016 by jjb4900 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) The consensus was that it's the same head minus some of the fit and finish. I spent under $20 for a dozen so the savings is $120+ Edited July 15, 2016 by The_Real_TCIII 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Besides the fact they are selling out the back door, they are not paying the federal excise tax on archery products that all US manufactures do. IMO knowingly buying knock offs is the same as stealing or buying hot merchandise out of the back of a van in a parking lot. If I don't like the price of something I don't use that as justification for theft from the company. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LET EM GROW Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 2 of my buddies bought the rage knockoffs.. price is great for the quantity purchased.. they are the exact same thing just a little lower in the steel quality dept.. resulting in broken blades more often and the ferrule being not as strong. All deer shot with these have been recovered due to well placed shots but... imo ill spend the extra for the actual rage heads and they lost longer due to strength especially when trying to ethically harvest an animal quick as possible.. in my free time I'm building prints to make my own rage hypodermic broadheads and machine them myself.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I'll continue to buy the rage from the local shop ,not to support rage but to support the local shop owner. He is a great guy and in fact just last night I stopped in with my bow that was shooting less then consistent and he stopped what he was doing to take me to his range and shoot through paper and make some adjustments at no charge . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I won't shoot Rage because of the rubber band, not cost but that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I get it they're expessive. most broadheads seem to be these days. as an engineer I'd be bothered if someone copied my design and then tried to steal sales away from the company I was at or owned. the trickle effect is real. you're chipping away at other blue collar Americans' lively hood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Are the store bought ones even made in the states anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trial153 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Can they be any worse then the originals!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Are the store bought ones even made in the states anymore? FeraDyne Outdoors has some job openings for manufacturing in Wisconsin. Had a CNC machine operator position and similar others that seem to be filled up. I was hoping more people would come in here to bash Rage and push for a good broadhead company like Muzzy. I need a good laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 I used Rage for the first time last year on two deer, I was quite pleased with them and will use them again.....I think any broadhead will get some bad reviews somewhere along the line. The Hypodermic +P is supposed to have a stronger blade retention collar so I will get them this year.............as for buying cheap knockoffs?, no thanks, I'll spend the extra $20.00 for the real ones and that would go for pretty much any product I buy, but especially not a mechanical broadhead from China. I might buy them just to see how they're constructed in comparison to the real ones, maybe see the blade sharpness, thickness and all that other important stuff, you gotta figure they scrimped somewhere along the line. From what I have read they are more than likely factory blemish that didn't quite make the weight tolerance they do say to sharpen them before use but say they come in a touch heavy seem to be around 114 for 100 grainSent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Besides the fact they are selling out the back door, they are not paying the federal excise tax on archery products that all US manufactures do. IMO knowingly buying knock offs is the same as stealing or buying hot merchandise out of the back of a van in a parking lot. If I don't like the price of something I don't use that as justification for theft from the company. Yea I knew I would get this answer and as a machinist I understand it fully but the fact is they charge 20 a head and that's outrageous IMO especially when they are already made in China and the margins are huge....I thought about shooting grim reapers bc it's one of only company actually made in USA but not a fan of them nor are most I have talked toSent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 2 of my buddies bought the rage knockoffs.. price is great for the quantity purchased.. they are the exact same thing just a little lower in the steel quality dept.. resulting in broken blades more often and the ferrule being not as strong. All deer shot with these have been recovered due to well placed shots but... imo ill spend the extra for the actual rage heads and they lost longer due to strength especially when trying to ethically harvest an animal quick as possible.. in my free time I'm building prints to make my own rage hypodermic broadheads and machine them myself.. Heck yea I'd love to see finished product Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Are the store bought ones even made in the states anymore?Grim reapers....these rages are more than likely made at same factory just don't make specsSent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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