EspressoBuzz Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Tesla’s Cars Will Soon Be Just As Affordable as Gas-Powered Vehicles https://futurism.com/2-tesla-pulls-down-battery-cost-by-35/ Great news for NYC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 You sure do like those things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 When green transportation can compete in cost, reliability, maintainability, and performance, it would be dumb not to support the industry. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 How well will they due in prolonged cold spells...-10 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 31 minutes ago, Doc said: When green transportation can compete in cost, reliability, maintainability, and performance, it would be dumb not to support the industry. It would be much easier to support the clean energy sector(for me at least) if it wasn't such a corrupt money grab . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 coumo just announced a big tax rebate on electric cars. Clearly he has some financial ties to them. Why else would he want fellow tax payers to pay for a portion of someone else's car?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 This is too funny the wife just asked me if she can get one how much do they go for......When I showed how much they cost she said forget it....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EspressoBuzz Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 I don't love them per se, my dream vehicle if I had one is a full loaded for the plains of Africa Range Rover. I see electric cars as a solution to many problems city's and NYC in particular have with air pollution, congestion and noise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 33 minutes ago, EspressoBuzz said: I don't love them per se, my dream vehicle if I had one is a full loaded for the plains of Africa Range Rover. I see electric cars as a solution to many problems city's and NYC in particular have with air pollution, congestion and noise. Thats a good point . Someone like me who never step foot inside NYC would be unaware of the issues facing automobiles in a large city. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philoshop Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 This is going to be a very strange confrontation in the near future. The only way that electric vehicles will be widely accepted by the American people is if the price of electricity is reduced. And the only way the price of electricity is going down is if the coal plants, natural gas (from fracking) plants, or the dreaded 'Nuke' plants are allowed to prosper and produce the electricity needed for the cars that are meant to save the planet by not relying on the fossil fuels that will be necessary to make those cars viable and attractive to the American market that is trying to get away from the fossil fuels that are necessary to run cars in the first place. ;-] Get it? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EspressoBuzz Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 The common misconception is that there is no difference creating the pollution at the vehicle or at the power plant. I can tell you there are loads of differences. The first being the corrosive effect air pollution has on buildings and cityscape structures. Secondly if technology comes along that can cost effectively clean emissions would it be easier to apply it to 253 million vehicles or 7658 power plants? Battery capacity technology and renewable energy will eventually take a huge share of the pie with natural gas taking the next largest share of the pie. Next generation Nuke plants are safer but still generate fear so locating them in reasonable areas will be important. So yeah "I Get It" (Quick somebody post a picture of a strip mine and tell everyone it's a lithium mine!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 A $35,000 car is affordable ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckersdaddy Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Until they can get a handle on storage capacity (batterys) the cars will be relagated to the urban enviroment. Out here in the sticks and even in the suburban areas, 75 plus miles a day is a routine commute. Or our favorite hobby of hunting.... doubt they will be putting charging stations in the ADK of catskill mountains.Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adkhunter1590 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I wouldn't buy one now or next year or even the year after. But the future is bright for electric vehicles. Really the only thing lacking right now is the range on them. If they made a electric pickup truck that had a 400-600 mile range, I'd be looking into one. I'm going to sit back and watch them progress, I am thinking another 5 years and you'll see some hard to beat models being made at the rate they are advancing right now. I think I read someplace Ford was looking to make a all electric F150. That's something I'll be keeping my eye out for. In 20 years I think the car industry will look much different than it does today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 If you ever spent time in NYC that background noise is loud. A lot of that is from trucks and cars. Could you ever imagine what it would be like with all battery powered cars and trucks. Pretty quiet for sure….then again there is always the jackhammer! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I'm still waiting for the flying car, that when I was a kid they said I'd be " driving " by now ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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philoshop Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I have nothing against the idea of electrically-powered passenger vehicles, and I'm sure they are somewhere on the horizon as a viable alternative. And I'm actually a fan of Elon Musk's SpaceX program. I just don't think it's the federal government's place to be funding these projects with taxpayer dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I owned an electric car a few years ago but got rid of it because its range was terrible (super, super bad in the winter). I drive a hybrid currently. Elon Musk is nothing short of one of the best tech minds of this generation. I believe that fully. What he's done with Tesla is nothing short of spectacular. He not only got a new car company profitable, which is insanely difficult, but he did it by leap-frogging the lethargy in the existing industry, by using a tech that they were barely bothering with (electric). Oh, and just because that wasn't enough his company is also the leader in automated driving. He is the perfect example of a fresh view and true motivation showing that the old way of doing things doesn't have to be the only way. And, before I forget, he also currently has the fastest 0-60 production car on the planet. So to recap, this guy comes along and in about fifteen years he goes from nothing to creating a profitable car company that: 1) Runs on batteries 2) Has the best automated cars on the planet 3) Has the fastest car I used to doubt him too, but no more. Did I mention Tesla is just one of his interests? He also founded space x, which is now bringing stuff to the international space station and then landing rockets back down on pads. And he's only 44 or so. As for Tesla, I absolutely can see one in my future. The model 3 will be an affordable car with a great range, plenty of power, and all Teslas will have their full suite of automated driving. For those who don't yet believe in the future of automated driving you can go on youtube right now and watch videos of Tesla Model S cars driving themselves for long distances on public freeways. Musk is one of those guys who does things while people are telling him it can't be done and he gets it done anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 31 minutes ago, philoshop said: I have nothing against the idea of electrically-powered passenger vehicles, and I'm sure they are somewhere on the horizon as a viable alternative. And I'm actually a fan of Elon Musk's SpaceX program. I just don't think it's the federal government's place to be funding these projects with taxpayer dollars. Maybe not, but the government throws money into everything, everywhere. Look at farming subsidies, for example. Or the auto bailout. Without getting homoerotic over it, musk is almost a national treasure. I think if we didn't suppor these industries he would find a country that would (he wasn't born here). And just in our neck of the woods he's also involved in solarcity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 hour ago, EspressoBuzz said: Cool ! I've only once in 40 years of buying cars spent more then 8k on one what that cost ? And will it fit my family ? And tow my boat ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Larry302 said: Double gin and tonics leads to double posts ... Edited March 5, 2017 by Larry302 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubborn1VT Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 22 hours ago, fasteddie said: A $35,000 car is affordable ? Is any new automobile affordable? Look at prices on a new, base model half-ton pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubborn1VT Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 On 3/3/2017 at 4:39 PM, Jeremy K said: It would be much easier to support the clean energy sector(for me at least) if it wasn't such a corrupt money grab . Yeah, nothing like the oil industry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adkhunter1590 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I forgot about tesla having the fastest car. That thing is crazy. I want to drive one at least once! Lol. Just to feel that torque would be such a awesome adrenaline rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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