QB1 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 One of my hunting buddies shared this with me...although at times he seems a bit over the top I respect his opinion and view him as a Leader in the outdoor world.... THE CELEBRATION OF DEATH by Ted Nugent I know, I know, upon reading my inescapably obvious title, the socially challenged amongst us are spitting coffee or other some such beverage and assorted abused brown lippy substances all over their Texas Fish & Game magazine. In a world gone berserk with the scourge of politically correct denial, I expect nothing less. The good news is that within this fine coterie of rugged outdoorsmen and women in whose hands this fine publication rests, the vast majority of hunters, fishers, trappers and just good ol all American grillmasters know exactly what I am talking about, and in fact grin with the certainty that though totally unnecessary to state in the world of honest consumers, in America 2010 it is time to state the truth as often as possible, confortable or otherwise. And though I’ve heard it stated over and over again and again ad nauseum ad infinitum, I dismiss out of hand the lame claim that the kill is anticlimactic to the hunt itself. Yeah, right. I see it all the time where sporters get way more excited and jubilant when they don’t bring home fish and game than when they do. No one cherishes and celebrates the entire hunt and hunting lifestyle more than I do, but give me a break. When the beast is dead at our feet due to the incredible dedication, diligence, patience, sacrifice and good old fashioned good luck, the fun factor explodes exponentially when we kill, and we all know it. The claim otherwise comes from some elitist, out of touch outdoor industry so called leaders, and certain cowardly outdoor writers that are afraid of their own shadows and recoil in abject trembling fear at the assumption that all people outside our sport hate us, hate dead deer and pretend that their store bought dinner is not dead. Not even close. Of course, known by those of us who actually pay attention to life and hang out with attentive, intelligent and sophisticated folk, we are well away that our very lives carryon due to that very celebration of death. Numerous times each day throughout humankind history, it is the flesh of dead creatures that provide man life itself. For those of us that hunt, fish and trap, the term “closer to the earth” wasn’t at all necessary to remind us where our protein and nutrition comes from. As we like to say, you can’t grill it till you kill it. Perfection personified. As we approach our fallen prize, as we turn the straps on the grill, as we take a good hearty snort of prepared meals’ aromas at the table, and as we join hands in reverent thanks to the Creator for the miracle of sustain yield, all the way through the “mmm.. mmm goods”, “yums”, various questionable guttural noises, burps and other assorted such audible sounds of appreciation and joy, clearly genuine celebration ensues for dead stuff everywhere. I’ve also heard of the feelings of remorse some consumers claim at the death of an animal. I’m not buying it. If ever there was a perfect act and a perfect moment, it is when we balance the herd and bring food home to our loved ones. Remorse? I think not. So to quote the great Fred Bear, we all surely know that everyday afield does indeed “cleanse the soul”, but of much more importance, done with a sense of excellence and dedication to be the best that we can be, the results will fill our bellies too! I share a lot of very special meals with my fellow man in my travels around the world, and I have yet to witness anything other than celebration at the table or campfire. Let it be known, the creatures feed, clothe, shelter and medicate us. Always have, always will. That is the prime cause of celebration in life, of life, via death. The beast is dead, long live the beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenders Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 When the beast is dead at our feet due to the incredible dedication, diligence, patience, sacrifice and good old fashioned good luck, the fun factor explodes exponentially when we kill, and we all know it. I will agree with him that there is a sense of satisfaction when one does get an animal down which one doesn't get without putting an animal down. I just would laugh at his statement above. I can see what he means about good old fashioned luck, but exactly what's with the incredible dedication and sacrifice?? Plenty of hunters out there that are far from being the sharpest knives in the drawer and yet they manage to kill deer. It really isn't rocket science so I don't know how much dedication it really takes. No one is telling anyone that they must hunt in todays world, so any sacrifices he talks about are obviously personal choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpteach Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 The sense of satisfaction is definitely why most of us hunt. Yet something must be said about dumb luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 I think there is much more dedication when it comes to Bow-hunting, everyone can get lucky but I think the most successful hunters are the ones who put in the time (practice, scouting, tending to their land etc.) Anyone can point and shoot a gun, it always drives me crazy when you here...BANG BANG BANG BANG, hell my grandma would have a good chance of hitting a Deer with that many shots. For the most part I think every deer I've gotten thus far has been from luck, but if/when I lock in on a certain buck study his routine and hunt that buck all season or multiple season when I finally lay the "Beast" to rest there will be much more of a satisfaction then going out with the boys and doing a drive and and shooting whatever shows up. I apprecaite all deer I can harvest but the ones I actually feel I had to work for in order to best my chances are the ones that I will cherish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Gotta say I feel much the same as Ted... although for me the enjoyment comes from the hunt not the kill... In the past I killed deer without the nearly the enjoyment I get today from being far more selective in both the quality of the animal I hunt and the way that I hunt him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 When the beast is dead at our feet due to the incredible dedication, diligence, patience, sacrifice and good old fashioned good luck, the fun factor explodes exponentially when we kill, and we all know it. I will agree with him that there is a sense of satisfaction when one does get an animal down which one doesn't get without putting an animal down. I just would laugh at his statement above. I can see what he means about good old fashioned luck, but exactly what's with the incredible dedication and sacrifice?? Plenty of hunters out there that are far from being the sharpest knives in the drawer and yet they manage to kill deer. It really isn't rocket science so I don't know how much dedication it really takes. No one is telling anyone that they must hunt in todays world, so any sacrifices he talks about are obviously personal choice. I think there is a dedication and sacrifice for all hunters...even the "crawl out a couple times a season" guys. Let's face it. we all sacrifice to go a field. We sacrifice our money that could go to other things....our time....we sacrifice the warmth of the warm home on a cold frosty morning. For some of the guys these sacrifices and levels of dedication may be far less than others but I can see his point. The scale is widely varied between all of us. There are some of you that are far more determined than I am and some that are less....but at some level I think it applies to all types of hunters. Uncle Ted can be a little over the top for my liking on most days but I can always agree with one thing.....The game sure does taste good!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowflinger Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I can see what he means about good old fashioned luck, but exactly what's with the incredible dedication and sacrifice?? Specifically since he has high fenced properties. LMAO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Still one of the best self promoter's I've seen. Every word and deed carefully crafted to get paid. No different then a pro wrestler matching the character to the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Yet another Pandoras box has been opened lol. This one should keep the site jammin for a while. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Tried doing my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Well, I know guys that go out for the first time and shoot a big buck and never come back. Then there are the guys who never see a deer but love going to that spot year after year just to enjoy the outdoors. "Let it be known, the creatures feed, clothe, shelter and medicate us." I don't hunt for any of these reasons. This may of been true when Ted was a young lad back in the 1800's but not now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Well, I know guys that go out for the first time and shoot a big buck and never come back. Then there are the guys who never see a deer but love going to that spot year after year just to enjoy the outdoors. "Let it be known, the creatures feed, clothe, shelter and medicate us." I don't hunt for any of these reasons. This may of been true when Ted was a young lad back in the 1800's but not now. so when you get a deer what do you do with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Good question Bubba... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I think there is a dedication and sacrifice for all hunters...even the "crawl out a couple times a season" guys. Let's face it. we all sacrifice to go a field. We sacrifice our money that could go to other things....our time....we sacrifice the warmth of the warm home on a cold frosty morning. For some of the guys these sacrifices and levels of dedication may be far less than others but I can see his point. The scale is widely varied between all of us. There are some of you that are far more determined than I am and some that are less....but at some level I think it applies to all types of hunters. Uncle Ted can be a little over the top for my liking on most days but I can always agree with one thing.....The game sure does taste good!! I will agree that there probably is some sacrifice on our part to participate in this sport, be it time, money or family, but my only point would be that we shouldn't think that we will get any sympathy from any non-hunters out there for any of these personal sacrifices. We basically hunt because we want to. It surely isn't a necessity for 99% of the hunters out there. If we didn't hunt we honestly could live on just the same. Buying any sort of meat in a store will probably end up costing less for just about any hunter out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Who is this Ted Nugent guy anyway? Never heard of him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Who is this Ted Nugent guy anyway? Never heard of him... It would actually do the hunting world good if NO one ever heard of him! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpenter Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Who is this Ted Nugent guy anyway? Never heard of him... It would actually do the hunting world good if NO one ever heard of him! LOL He's one of the biggest promoters in the country of the hunting sports and outdoor lifestyle. If you don't like him that's one thing, but to imply he's bad for the sport is another. What exactly has he done to hurt the hunting world in comparison to what he's done to promote it in as positive of a light as he can? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 What exactly has he done to hurt the hunting world in comparison to what he's done to promote it in as positive of a light as he can? I guess if you like a representative that has a drugged up, glassy eyed look, with hair longer than Jesus, and one that has no qualms about using obscenities to get his point across, and likes to appear on stage of his concerts with an AR-15 in hand, then Nugent is obviously the MAN for you. Others think he is exactly what we DON'T need to be stereotyped as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 It might be easier for the rest of us if carpenter just looks up any one of the other Ted threads. I don't think we need to repeat our selves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I think there is a dedication and sacrifice for all hunters...even the "crawl out a couple times a season" guys. Let's face it. we all sacrifice to go a field. We sacrifice our money that could go to other things....our time....we sacrifice the warmth of the warm home on a cold frosty morning. For some of the guys these sacrifices and levels of dedication may be far less than others but I can see his point. The scale is widely varied between all of us. There are some of you that are far more determined than I am and some that are less....but at some level I think it applies to all types of hunters. Uncle Ted can be a little over the top for my liking on most days but I can always agree with one thing.....The game sure does taste good!! I will agree that there probably is some sacrifice on our part to participate in this sport, be it time, money or family, but my only point would be that we shouldn't think that we will get any sympathy from any non-hunters out there for any of these personal sacrifices. We basically hunt because we want to. It surely isn't a necessity for 99% of the hunters out there. If we didn't hunt we honestly could live on just the same. Buying any sort of meat in a store will probably end up costing less for just about any hunter out there. LOL...Hence the reason I get no sympathy fromteh wife when I come home soaked with my teeth chattering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowflinger Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 What exactly has he done to hurt the hunting world in comparison to what he's done to promote it in as positive of a light as he can? He comes across to non-hunters as a bloodthirsty psychopath. That is not exactly how i would wish hunters to be percieved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 LOL...Hence the reason I get no sympathy fromteh wife when I come home soaked with my teeth chattering Yep, that's exactly what I mean. I have hunted a long time now and have never had any non-hunter feel sorry for me or any other hunter in any way. If we hunt, we just have to suck it up, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Well, I know guys that go out for the first time and shoot a big buck and never come back. Then there are the guys who never see a deer but love going to that spot year after year just to enjoy the outdoors. "Let it be known, the creatures feed, clothe, shelter and medicate us." I don't hunt for any of these reasons. This may of been true when Ted was a young lad back in the 1800's but not now. so when you get a deer what do you do with it? Of course I eat it, love it in fact. The point I was making is I don't need to hunt to feed myself. Maybe I should of been clearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted March 9, 2011 Author Share Posted March 9, 2011 I introduce Ted Nugent.... Although at times Nugent is over the top and to someone who doesn't hunt he could be a real turn off I do appreciate his genuine enthusiasm and love for the outdoors. He has one of the most pure respects for his kills and is also noted for his conservative political views and his ardent defense of hunting, conservation, and gun ownership rights. He does not do drugs which is easy to assume just by his looks and that he is a rock star but actually is a big support of several anti-drug/anti alcohol campaigns. I would love to see him in a debate with some of the D-bags who are against hunting and the outdoors because they believe its cruel and inhuman. Now that would be entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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