The CCC

[DirtTime]

Civilian Conservation Corps.

I was unaware of this organization until today. While looking up Five Rivers Environmental Center ( we are going hiking there tomorrow ) I came across the name of the organization.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/education/1835.html

 

Just starting to read more about this, but, so far I find it pretty interesting. Appears it got over political at then end ( what doesn't ? ).

http://www.ccclegacy.org/CCC_Camps_New_York.html

 

Looks like a huge amount of info about CCC, and even a book I hope I can find to buy.

 

Figured I would share as it's about the history of land conservation/management, protection and growth of varied species of critters. 

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[ncountry]

You have been missing out.. After some study you will be amazed at the different projects they were involved in.. I know in Letchworth sp the ccc had 3 or 4 camps . They built most if not all the stone walls, walks, picnic areas , and some roads ... Also , often if you come across tracts of plantation pine on public land it has been planted by the ccc.

[Lawdwaz]

Somewhere I may have a book on the CCC camps. I'll look.....

[fasteddie]

I believe there used to be a CCC camp on Gibsonville Road which used to run into Letchworth Park > We hunted on a farm on that road and my Father in law mentioned it a couple times . 

[ncountry]

13 minutes ago, fasteddie said:

I believe there used to be a CCC camp on Gibsonville Road which used to run into Letchworth Park > We hunted on a farm on that road and my Father in law mentioned it a couple times . 

Yes, a chimney is still standing from the camp at the bottom of the hill..

[Pygmy]

When I was a mere wisp of a lad, I used to catch suckers by the burlap bag full at the CCC  flood control dam on Tuscarora Creek west of Addison...It was built as a result of the 1935 flood, and it washed out during the 1972 Agnes flood...

[DirtTime]

57 minutes ago, ncountry said:

You have been missing out.. After some study you will be amazed at the different projects they were involved in.. I know in Letchworth sp the ccc had 3 or 4 camps . They built most if not all the stone walls, walks, picnic areas , and some roads ... Also , often if you come across tracts of plantation pine on public land it has been planted by the ccc.

Learning that. It also appears that many of the small lakes and ponds were created by them. Like I said, just getting into it, but from only reading a small amount so far, this is some great reading and pretty informative. 

[TACC]

They did an enormous amount for land areas.
We had a huge fire line cut and cleared when they were doing projects.
Almost 1/2 mile long and 25 yards wide.

It has now since grown over the majority of it

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[Dinsdale]

I have a nice 2 man crosscut saw used by CCC in northern Pa area and marked as such. Near as I can research around 1938.

Used it as a kid at a relatives not to far from Kinzua.

[G-Man]

That same era saw them painting.. The Lancaster opera house entire wood work was painted yellow .. An amazing restoration they did to clean it all off. My grand father was in the CCC corps out west planting pines..

[DirtTime]

They did some pretty awesome accomplishments! I wish they were still around, maybe our state hunting lands would get cleaned up from time to time and logged once in awhile.

[G-Man]

10 hours ago, ....rob said:

They did some pretty awesome accomplishments! I wish they were still around, maybe our state hunting lands would get cleaned up from time to time and logged once in awhile.

I believe them working for government was ruled unconstitutional for lack of benefits and wages in line with other government workers... Much of the depression era programs were deemed unconstitutional after the fact..

[DirtTime]

16 hours ago, G-Man said:

I believe them working for government was ruled unconstitutional for lack of benefits and wages in line with other government workers... Much of the depression era programs were deemed unconstitutional after the fact..

So who decided that?

 

[Adkhunter1590]

Rob if you look on google maps of some of the state lands west of you, a lot of the roads into the state lands are just called "CCC Road". I can't confirm who planted the pines, but just about every state land around us is covered in pine plantations. Some of it is actually getting logged recently. But I'm guessing the CCC was involved in the planting way back when.

[GreeneHunter]

I had always wondered who built all the old stone walls in the middle of nowhere .... it was the CCC !

[nyslowhand]

On 4/18/2017 at 0:03 AM, ....rob said:

So who decided that?

Per Wikipedia:

" Despite its popular support, the CCC was never a permanent agency. It depended on emergency and temporary Congressional legislation and funding to operate. By 1942, with World War II and the draft in operation, the need for work relief declined, and Congress voted to close the program "

[tuckersdaddy]

Rob if you look on google maps of some of the state lands west of you, a lot of the roads into the state lands are just called "CCC Road". I can't confirm who planted the pines, but just about every state land around us is covered in pine plantations. Some of it is actually getting logged recently. But I'm guessing the CCC was involved in the planting way back when.

Depends on where you are in NY. Most of the stone walls in the 7m, 7p area are left overs from defunct farms that went under during the depression. When abandund or tax forclosed on the state took them over and created the state lands they are now. This was done at such a large scale many small towns were consumed. When wondering around these areas you come across fence walls, barn runs, house foundations, wells, and occasionally equipment. Cemetarys area another interesting find that are normally adjacent to a church foundation.

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[Daveboone]

Many of the camps were phased out as the economy started to improve, and as the military started to gear up in the late 30s. The CCC is also accredited with preparing a generation for WW2: they were well fed, discipline initiated, physically fit. Many of the NYS Game management areas and reforested areas are due to the CCC work.

LIke someone else mentioned, they aren't responsible for the stone walls. That was the back breaking work of the original settlers/ farmers, who simply needed someplace to put all the rocks in the fields.

Near my camp is the site of the old Winona CCC camp, several buidlings still exist. It is fun to wander the woods and find the remnants of life. There is a big pile of old china ware from the dining hall marked for the U.S. Marine Corp. cool stuff.

[DirtTime]

This is some really interesting to learn about. I found this while looking up camps in areas I have been in. It's probably private land by now.

 

http://digitalcollections.archives.nysed.gov/index.php/Detail/Object/Show/object_id/4032

 

On 4/18/2017 at 2:40 AM, Adkhunter1590 said:

Rob if you look on google maps of some of the state lands west of you, a lot of the roads into the state lands are just called "CCC Road". I can't confirm who planted the pines, but just about every state land around us is covered in pine plantations. Some of it is actually getting logged recently. But I'm guessing the CCC was involved in the planting way back when.

I always wondered why some state lands, we have huge pine areas that are all in rows.

Like I said, this if fun learning about. Thank's to those who have added something to make me look for. Wish we had more people in my area with info on this.

[tuckersdaddy]

This is some really interesting to learn about. I found this while looking up camps in areas I have been in. It's probably private land by now.
 
http://digitalcollections.archives.nysed.gov/index.php/Detail/Object/Show/object_id/4032
 
I always wondered why some state lands, we have huge pine areas that are all in rows.
Like I said, this if fun learning about. Thank's to those who have added something to make me look for. Wish we had more people in my area with info on this.

From your wbng flag i see you must be from the southrn tier. if you get bored some day take a ride to oxford the take 220 west maybe 2 or 3 miles after bowman lake st park there is an old ccc camp with the chimneys still standing. Pretty cool.

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[DirtTime]

1 hour ago, tuckersdaddy said:

From your wbng flag i see you must be from the southrn tier. if you get bored some day take a ride to oxford the take 220 west maybe 2 or 3 miles after bowman lake st park there is an old ccc camp with the chimneys still standing. Pretty cool.

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Describe your meaning of the "Southern Tier". It's a very different from area to area on this site. What flag? I am no where nere Oxford. 

[tuckersdaddy]

Describe your meaning of the "Southern Tier". It's a very different from area to area on this site. What flag? I am no where nere Oxford. 

the link you posted came up a binghmton tv station.

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