growalot Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Lets see how many times have I called about them, over the years...Starting when they ambushed me at the end of the drive and chased me to the house circling it while I was on the phone to 911 a few years ago...Earlier just this year....They are a hunting pair..plain and simple...Here we go again....pics and e-mails sent.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goosifer Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 From a certain angle, they look like coyotes . . . . SSS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I'm looking at their back and their front. Friendly looking bunch ya got there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) Take a phone or something and record them chasing you and the only thing you could do to defend yourself is shoot them. I'm sorry but if a dog is going to go after me or my family I'm shooting it end of story. I don't care what people on here think if the dog has acted aggressive towards you on your own property then it is only a matter of time before one latches onto you. Imagine walking to your stand and one going after you in the dark. Edited December 5, 2017 by chas0218 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRod 8G8H Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 pitbulls? are these neighbors dogs? the one has a collar on. there should be multiple heavy fines out there now a days for stuff like this which hopefully will stop the homeowners from letting the dogs out at all. right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I have hunted state land where it clearly states dog most be on leash and the owners don't care let them loose even though they know there's hunting going on there, people are idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBowhunter Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, growalot said: Lets see how many times have I called about them, over the years...Starting when they ambushed me at the end of the drive and chased me to the house circling it while I was on the phone to 911 a few years ago...Earlier just this year....They are a hunting pair..plain and simple...Here we go again....pics and e-mails sent.. If i had those on my property and they made the slightest attempt to attcack me or my family, they would be shot plain and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, JaredA WNY8G said: 2 pitbulls? are these neighbors dogs? the one has a collar on. there should be multiple heavy fines out there now a days for stuff like this which hopefully will stop the homeowners from letting the dogs out at all. right?? Seems like dogs have more rights then people these days you see them in the mall in the coffee shop even in the grocery store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) Just got off the phone with dog warden... "If you feel threatened you can shoot them" ...I don't want to shoot them I want those owners to pay fines,fines fines...and if need be pay for put downs... So I told them I got a hold of DEC and they were understanding "You don't want to worry about walking to stands with these at large." It's been 3 or more years of this BS...I don't ever want to worry about me and River being out on the property and I SHOULD NOT have to pack a weapon when enjoying being with my grandson on my land. Again dog warden "Well I'll try to investigate but I need more info"...seriously!?You have area...clear pics,they have collars and possibly tags, and you clearly have sex...Big Males... Then told me I need to look for them when I'm out driving... Edited December 5, 2017 by growalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz1219 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 My idea on how to handle that would be called cruel and mean... If you feel your safety is in question.. Shoot them where they stand.. be done with it.. Why banter around waiting for someone else to possibly get attacked.. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 You're gonna have to trap them ,it's the only alternative you have to shooting them . The owners obviously don't care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApexerER Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Grow, you must have the worst LEO's in NYS. You have so many problems that would be handled so much differently where I hunt and live. Those dogs would be in a pound in two seconds where I live. I have no idea if there would be fines or not. Is it because you are so far out in the country that people trespassing, shooting deer on your land, letting your dogs run etc is just normal? I can't believe these problems just get blown off like its no big deal. To much area for LEO's to cover? I don't get it.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 The Livingston county dog "warden" is in Geneseo...and I think a real dog lover...several miles away...The DEC has a, give em a warning attitude...so that shifts them to night time running...WTH I have told EVERYONE I'm running cams 24/7...The only time I got good results is when I called several years ago region 7..I told them reg 8 just won't do anything...the dog was eating the live deer as I drove by... so they came out to where I told them and tracked the dog back to the house...where no one would answer the door... They left a note and called me..not sure what the follow up was.....But you know...first time I shoot one...my fanny will be flying in the wind as it were.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 55 minutes ago, NYBowhunter said: If i had those on my property and they made the slightest attempt to attcack me or my family, they would be shot plain and simple. They would not even get that grace around here. Shot on sight and i can promise ya nobody would be dumb enough to post pic's of them anywhere near social media. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 34 minutes ago, growalot said: Just got off the phone with dog warden... "If you feel threatened you can shoot them" ...I don't want to shoot them I want those owners to pay fines,fines fines...and if need be pay for put downs... So I told them I got a hold of DEC and they were understanding "You don't want to worry about walking to stands with these at large." It's been 3 or more years of this BS...I don't ever want to worry about me and River being out on the property and I SHOULD NOT have to pack a weapon when enjoying being with my grandson on my land. Again dog warden "Well I'll try to investigate but I need more info"...seriously!?You have area...clear pics,they have collars and possibly tags, and you clearly have sex...Big Males... Then told me I need to look for them when I'm out driving... What town or county are you in ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 Livingston... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I think if all else fails Just make them disappear Or call the local Chinese restaurant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBowhunter Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 50 minutes ago, growalot said: Just got off the phone with dog warden... "If you feel threatened you can shoot them" ...I don't want to shoot them I want those owners to pay fines,fines fines...and if need be pay for put downs... So I told them I got a hold of DEC and they were understanding "You don't want to worry about walking to stands with these at large." It's been 3 or more years of this BS...I don't ever want to worry about me and River being out on the property and I SHOULD NOT have to pack a weapon when enjoying being with my grandson on my land. Again dog warden "Well I'll try to investigate but I need more info"...seriously!?You have area...clear pics,they have collars and possibly tags, and you clearly have sex...Big Males... Then told me I need to look for them when I'm out driving... Gotta tell ya grow, if those pitbulls are gamey at all you will have no fighting chance to save yourself or your grandson. You are making a grave mistake by trying to settle this with the owners. Im afraid that if you wait for owners to take action, it maybe to late and yourself or a loved one can get gravely hurt or worse. I have seen first hand what a large male gamey pitbull can do, its not pretty. And they will not stop and are relentless. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 I don't know Apex...I went to them 35 years ago with a murder plot, weapon that would be used.., victim and a psychiatrist that called me for my opinion and then they called and set up the appointment at the sheriffs office after 11 at night...and I had a possible victim sitting in a chair next to me,his wife..LOL They did NOTHING...even though a local school had a stalking injunction or what ever it's called against him. 2 wks later he shot up a restaurant and killed the guy(who was a bus driver). He got 7 years... So you tell me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 DEC just called and they are coming out to investigate...they are going to look up the records at town hall and search the area...So I will give Them Kudo's on this one... We will see...at least it is an effort...more than the Dog warden... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 It must be a town to town thing but I recently got a phone call from the town clerk asking if my dog was missing . They looked in their records and called people in the area with hound mix dogs to tell them a hound mix was about to go to the clink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) Free-roaming dogs are not at all unusual. I have heard people say that one of the benefits to moving out into the country is that it gives their dogs freedom to run. If you shoot them and the wrong people find out, you are in trouble, and likely your name will be published in the local paper as a filthy low-down dog-killer. Unless the town has a leash-law on the books and a dog warden who is willing to enforce the law, the people and domestic and wild stock in the county are at risk. To many counties have an unstated policy of being a "sanctuary county" when it comes to dogs. Aw the cute little puppy-dogs can do no wrong. The only comment I have is that if you ever think that you might have to take matters into your own hands, do not publish pictures or comments about specific dogs. It makes you a potential prime suspect when those dogs do not return home. Edited December 5, 2017 by Doc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airedale Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 If those two dogs are running around and roaming the neighborhood constantly they will have been seen by plenty of other people in the area and there will be someone who knows who the owners are and it is a good bet they do not live far from you, it should not be too difficult to find out who they belong to especially with the photos you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Free-roaming dogs is not at all unusual. I have heard people say that one of the benefits to moving out into the country is that it gives their dogs freedom to run. If you shoot them and the wrong people find out, you are in trouble, and likely your name will be published in the local paper as a filthy low-down dog-killer. Unless the town has a leash-law on the books and a dog warden who is willing to enforce the law, the people and domestic and wild stock in the county are at risk. To many counties have an unstated policy of being a "sanctuary county" when it comes to dogs. Aw the cute little puppy-dogs can do no wrong. The only comment I have is that if you ever think that you might have to take matters into your own hands, do not publish pictures or comments about specific dogs. It makes you a potential prime suspect when those dogs do not return home. True That. Trust me, There are many dead dogs out there be it tame or wild that will never be seen again and i cant remember ever taking a picture of any. Thats where the last "S" comes into play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 You would think but this area is strange and I think at least Doc has an understanding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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