burmjohn Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?default_fld=&bn=A07878&term=&Summary=Y&Actions=Y Increases the distance from a dwelling house, farm building, school building, school playground, occupied factory or church in which a firearm or long bow may be discharged from 500 feet to 1000 feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 After all the years of having the 500' rule, what do you suppose has brought attention to this distance regulation? I'm thinking that this rash of counties in the southern zone that are allowing rifles for deer season may be what is all of a sudden getting people all nervous and jerky. That's one of the problems with being in a minority. Everytime we draw attention to ourselves with new laws that are good for hunters, there always seems to be some unintended consequences that come along with it.....lol. Well anyway, it looks like another letter writing campaign is in order. My gosh, these idiots are going to give me a case of carpel-tunnel syndrome. When will they stop? I doubt this thing will ever get anywhere, but it's not something we want to take a chance with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cboy18 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 good idea.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papabear Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I belive they tried this once beor and lost I realy don't think it will pass papabear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukonhunter Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 They try to sneak whatever they can through it sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 ... When will they stop? I doubt this thing will ever get anywhere, but it's not something we want to take a chance with. They will never stop, but they expect us too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13BVET Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 The shame of it, is, that a 1000' rule would effectively end hunting in much of the south eastern zone. Or, maybe that's their game plan to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13BVET Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Wow. Where in the hell do these idiots get the idea that a bow can shoot 1000'??? If anything, I personally think the distance should be shortened for the bow. 500' in itself, is a long way for a bow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 1000' will end hunting in a lot of camps in southern tier... 5 acre camps are to close together yet alone long skinny properties in developed areas.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burmjohn Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 Thats for sure, it will end hunting in a lot of area's. This needs to be squashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymerlo Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 This is why you have to contact your local legislators an tell them why it's a bad idea,complaining on this site will only get you sympathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 What the Legislatures often do is put a Bill like the above with another bill that folks want / lump them together and then vote on it . That's how they slip some through ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sits in trees Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) once again, rock solid proof that the anti hunting groups in our state are hard at work, well funded and very clever...they no longer attack the right to hunt, they slowly chisel at the way we are allowed to hunt, slowly undermine and reduce our numbers to a point or voices are no longer heard in this huge state of ours. attack where we can hunt, attack the type of ammo we hunt with, attack access to hunting lands, then get the clown lawmakers/politicians who see the clout/votes these groups possess to pass the anti hunting laws they want... Edited September 2, 2011 by sits in trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Doc........ I'll tell ya...it was the lets lower the bow distance regulation that got this flared up....land owners are tired of getting stepped on when the quality of enjoying ones property comes into play...hunter or not Some times ppl just don't know when to leave good enough alone.....poke at a hornets nest and your bound to get stung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Doc........ I'll tell ya...it was the lets lower the bow distance regulation that got this flared up.... That could very well be true too. Something sure did draw their attention to this distance law all of a sudden. Whatever it was, we have to make sure to squash it before it gets traction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erussell Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 NYS can't enforce the current laws on the book, If they pass it, it will still be business as usual. How nthey gonna know with a bow or a crossbow anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burmjohn Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 The problem is anti-neighbors I'd assume, the ones that are the most vocal and bitch to the DEC every second they can. That 1000 footer law would create a nightmare for a lot of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 This bill is not even out of committee it more than likely will die there remember DEC wants 150 foot rule for bow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 This bill is not even out of committee it more than likely will die there remember DEC wants 150 foot rule for bow Lol......We've seen how much weight the DEC carries with the state legislators . Probably not a real good idea to count on that sort of thing. Letters, e-mails and/or phone calls are in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzzyLoader Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 The sponsor to this bill is Theile (he's from District 2 - Long Island). The bill has no co-sponsor or other endorsers. http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/Fred-W-Thiele-Jr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I think if the 500 was acually enforced they would never go to 1000 fearing too many citations issued.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burmjohn Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 The sponsor to this bill is Theile (he's from District 2 - Long Island). The bill has no co-sponsor or other endorsers. http://assembly.stat...red-W-Thiele-Jr He is from out East on Long Island, more then likely an Anti. I already emailed him to see what his reasoning is behind this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sits in trees Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 this 1000 feet thing is nothing new, the antis have used the shooting of the young girl in Sullivan county several years ago and more recent shooting situations in our state to put fire behind this thing. can you imagine how much hunting land in lower NY this could make completely inaccesible for hunting!! this is a dangerous one fellas, keep an eye on this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 History sure repeats itself. Whenever hunters think they have won on an issue, they end up the losing on several others that are takened away. If riffle zones were not expanded, would we be seeing this showing up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I would more likly think that the reason it comes up is the stories about bullets going through children's rooms etc. I am totally against it, but I also do not think the bow should be lowered either. Come on 150 feet. I do not need anyone 50 yards from my house setting up to hunt. Here is the kicker to the whole thing. It also says unless you have permission. I would think if you had camps of hunters that close on 5 acre plots, they would be happy to give each other permission, or no one would hunt. I already emailed my state reps as well as spoke personally to my state senator yesterday at the local parade. She is someone I have known personally pretty much all of my life, and she is a friend to the sportsman as her whole family hunt. She assures me that the bill will not pass as it does not have the support. However, it still needs to be fought and fought hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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