Welfare

[Early]

I really love it when you guys bring up God to support your evil notions. Please, give me a break....God, if she does exist, would care for the less fortunate...and hopefully stomp on you hard-hearted right wing bastards!

[wooly]

I looked into welfare once.

For 1 person max benefit was 335/mo. If rent was 400...335 went right to the landlord.

That wouldn't even cover the rent so I doubt many welfare cases have much leftover to afford a caddilac payment even with a family of 4 collecting. My guess is daddy's pimpin' momma, and the kiddos are running rock for a ride like that,lol! So in a way, they are working for what they get and all that tax money you've invested is kicked back to the system through fines and blood money seized,lol

[Culvercreek hunt club]

That is funny, Early. It was actually one of the libs on the thread that first brought it up....in usual fashion I might add....trying to throw it in a believer face in a degrading way

[nyantler]

I looked into welfare once.

For 1 person max benefit was 335/mo. If rent was 400...335 went right to the landlord.

That wouldn't even cover the rent so I doubt many welfare cases have much leftover to afford a caddilac payment even with a family of 4 collecting. My guess is daddy's pimpin' momma, and the kiddos are running rock for a ride like that,lol! So in a way, they are working for what they get and all that tax money you've invested is kicked back to the system through fines and blood money seized,lol

Man I wish it worked that way..lol Don't forget food stamps... WIC... Medicaid... free cell phones... HUD... no taxes... and no responsibility... not even for yourself...some even qualifiy for disability (bad back or too fat to move)... and social security (daddy of the kids got shot by rival gang member, mommy pockets the SS check)... fines are eaten up by public defender fee paid by tax dollars... and blood money goes back in the system with the rest of our tax money to start the whole cycle over again... you gotta love it.. it's genius!!!

Edited January 14, 2012 by nyantler

[bubba]

I guess I have a hard time giving away my money when I have to do more to be able to work such as drug tests and background checks than the people who get my money with very few limitations. The problem is in the past it was a hand up and we were embarrassed as kids to eat govt cheese. Now it is a life style and an entitlement. Make them earn it like I have to earn my money to give away for free, and have to meet some standards. If they need the money bad enough, they will meet the standards. If they feel it is an infringement on their rights, then dont take it. Do it the old fashioned way get a friggin job. And that is all I have to say about that.

[Skillet]

Virgil, no one can say you aren't consistent. You have the same bleeding heart lib views on welfare as you do for gun control.

Early, leave it to a lib to call God's existence into question. Why don't you read the whole thread before making yourself look ignorant? I don't throw GOD in anyone's face, but he sure as HELL does exist. It is people like YOU who are destroying this country, by removing GOD from it. I thank GOD for my JOB, and the fact that I am not afraid to WORK for the BLESSINGS that I have received, from GOD. I'll gladly pay for someone to collect welfare, after they pass a drug test like I do at my JOB. After they start contributing something to society like I do at my JOB. When they make a damn effort in life, instead of wanting every damn thing handed to them for the simple fact that they are gracing the planet with their presence.

You're right, I am a right wing freak. A white, CHRISTIAN, right wing freak.

[growalot]

I really love it when you guys bring up God to support your evil notions. Please, give me a break....God, if she does exist, would care for the less fortunate...and hopefully stomp on you hard-hearted right wing bastards!

Holy crap!...If God was an Irish woman she'd have her foot up the arses of every healthyy lazy wht...blk..yellow...red ...human man or woman on welfare...while she was tossing their flat screens and Ipods...that thinks God and humanity owe them a living

Edited January 14, 2012 by growalot

[Skillet]

I'll bet you my life that you would see any right wing, believers in Christ be willing to lend a hand to someone who honestly needs it, long before you will see an atheist liberal lifting a finger.

[SteveB]

Not to side track the thread, but I have never needed an invisible friend to help someone deserving and needy.

But it should be a personal choice who and when to help - not a government mandate.

[ELMER J. FUDD]

I'll bet I could find multiple ways these people can get by without assistance. Just like the rest of us did.

[sits in trees]

WOW, this thread is HEAVY! much heavier than any crossbow debate even.....

[GreeneHunter]

Think I'll stick to hunting stuff and such !

[Lever action]

I really love it when you guys bring up God to support your evil notions. Please, give me a break....God, if she does exist, would care for the less fortunate...and hopefully stomp on you hard-hearted right wing bastards!

Give you a break????

When are you liberals going to give us a break??? After you spend another 4 trillion???......Then we all can be on welfare!!!....,and for your information God does exist!

Edited January 14, 2012 by Cabinboy

[moose]

Wisdom!

This was in the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco , TX Nov 18, 2010

Put me in charge . . .

Put me in charge of food stamps. I'd get rid of EBT cards; no more free

Ding Dongs or Ho Ho's, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans,

blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want

steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.

Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I'd do is to get women

Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we'll test

recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and

piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke or get

tats and piercings, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks?

You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your

"home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be

inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your

own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or

you will report to a "government" job. It may be cleaning the roadways of

trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We

will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo

and speakers and put that money toward the "common good."

Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realize that all of

the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules.. Before

you say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin their "self esteem,"

consider that it wasn't that long ago that taking someone else's money for

doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least

attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system

rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.

AND While you are on Gov't subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is

correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will

voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov't

welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job.

I agree how come i have to work 50hrs a week in the cold and the can sit home and watch t.v. and get part of my pay check!!!!!

[Skillet]

Not to side track the thread, but I have never needed an invisible friend to help someone deserving and needy.

But it should be a personal choice who and when to help - not a government mandate.

Invisible friend? Wow.

[Dave]

making recipients of public welfare money act responsibly to get that money is not infringing on their rights

I feel that there should be strict regulations regarding who qualifies for welfare and medicaid in order to prevent abuse. But, to say that sterilization and the loss of the right to vote is not an infringement on someone's rights is absurd- and hypocritical.

All they would do is vote themselves more hand outs, more welfare, taking taxpayers money and not contributing one dam thing to society. Plus teaching their children don't work when you can get something for nothing.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

And suspending someones rights is NOT a new concept. It is curren'tly done with those serving time (except in Maine and Vermont) and most states through any parole period. I think there are/were a few states that would NEVER let a convisted felon vote again.

Now i am sure someone will twist this into me comparing a welfare recipient to a felon. I am not. I am just using this as an example of how rights could be set aside. Now they don't have to have their rights set aside. just go get a job and put your hand back in your own pocket rather than someone elses

What welfare has become is has been a death blow to those using the benefit. It breeds dependence and rewards irresponsibility....and that is just the way the Liberals like it.

[RifleSharpShot]

What does a tattoo have to do with welfare???

[Culvercreek hunt club]

It was a one of the things they shouldn't be spending money on IF they are taking a handout from us. If you can afford those you don't need us

[Paula]

i have 2 tenants that are on section 8, they both get help with the rent. my one tenant takes full advantage of every program that she can. She gets help with her rge from heap, she gets help with her co pays on her meds. she also now has a free cell phone some how that she doesn't pay for. plus she has one of her own already. she is a smoker and a drinker. 2 yrs ago she was able to get a new car and now she is talking about buying the house because she is getting some kind of settlement. she will be "poor" after buying house so there are programs that will help with work on the house. like siding and fix garage for her so she says.

I know i should be grateful that my mortgage is being paid for but hell, i would love to have a free cell phone and help with my bills. seems like welfare is backwards, it should be for the hard working people who help themselves not the other way. we should be rewarded someway. but i also don't see anything wrong with getting help if its needed for a short period not years, i think that hurts them in the long run they only become lazy and will only fight for their place in line to hand in the paper work not fight for a job and be proud of what they have earned on their own.

[Single_shot]

Give you a break????

When are you liberals going to give us a break??? After you spend another 4 trillion???......Then we all can be on welfare!!!....,and for your information God does exist!

I'm a born again Christian and baptised baptist....you prove to me God is real. You might have as much proof as with the bigfoot. It has never been proven. You can't say that. God /religion is a belief and not a tangible item.

I was'nt going to get involved with this crap but what the hell....there are people that NEED welfare at times.I'm not saying that it isn't abused buy most. Walk a mile in some others shoes before you sit on your high horse and think you have the right to judge anyone. For you Christians,you should know better than to judge....read your bible....who am I to judge. This crap gets my goat,this is a hunting forum,not a site for people who think thier shat don't stink.

[nyantler]

I'm a born again Christian and baptised baptist....you prove to me God is real. You might have as much proof as with the bigfoot. It has never been proven. You can't say that. God /religion is a belief and not a tangible item.

I was'nt going to get involved with this crap but what the hell....there are people that NEED welfare at times.I'm not saying that it isn't abused buy most. Walk a mile in some others shoes before you sit on your high horse and think you have the right to judge anyone. For you Christians,you should know better than to judge....read your bible....who am I to judge. This crap gets my goat,this is a hunting forum,not a site for people who think thier shat don't stink.

I've seen my children born... thats proof enough for me that their is a God.. ... religion IS a belief.. A belief in the existence of God.. if it isn't real .. it doesn't exist.. what kind of a born again Christian doubts the existence of God?? Nobody should have to prove the existence of God to a true believer... "I AM"... I believe that is how it is written in the bible.

Taking care of the needy should not be the same as taking care of the greedy...

[Lever action]

I'm a born again Christian and baptised baptist....you prove to me God is real. You might have as much proof as with the bigfoot. It has never been proven. You can't say that. God /religion is a belief and not a tangible item.

I was'nt going to get involved with this crap but what the hell....there are people that NEED welfare at times.I'm not saying that it isn't abused buy most. Walk a mile in some others shoes before you sit on your high horse and think you have the right to judge anyone. For you Christians,you should know better than to judge....read your bible....who am I to judge. This crap gets my goat,this is a hunting forum,not a site for people who think thier shat don't stink.

Your a born again Christian and your asking me to prove to you God exist???

I didn't say nobody needs welfare but if our current Liberal President continues on this road of enormous spending and borrowing we will all end up on welfare!

[Single_shot]

I've seen my children born... thats proof enough for me that their is a God.. ... religion IS a belief.. A belief in the existence of God.. if it isn't real .. it doesn't exist.. what kind of a born again Christian doubts the existence of God?? Nobody should have to prove the existence of God to a true believer... "I AM"... I believe that is how it is written in the bible.

Taking care of the needy should not be the same as taking care of the greedy...

Exactly...it's the same as disability.I see people on it that are very able to work,but don't.

Your a born again Christian and your asking me to prove to you God exist???

I'm not asking you to prove it.But to say something like you did,does nothing for a non believer. It's a waste of keystrokes.

I didn't say nobody needs welfare but if our current Liberal President continues on this road of enormous spending and borrowing we will all end up on welfare!

This statement wasn't intended towards you.

I was venting,not unlike the rest of you.That's why I try hard not to get involved with this type of thread. Now it's time to enjoy this fresh pot of coffee.

[Lever action]

Quote-"This statement wasn't intended towards you."

"I was venting,not unlike the rest of you.That's why I try hard not to get involved with this type of thread. Now it's time to enjoy this fresh pot of coffee"

I agree , religion and politics don't always mix well! lol