WNYTRPR Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, G-Man said: The best part of that is 10 % of the hunters take 90% of the game... being a bad hunter doesn't help so the 90% complaint is probably true Judging by the group that I know hunts, this is true . I am guilty of letting many doe walk when I could have easily harvested . Edited September 2, 2021 by WNYTRPR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 The late season is with a muzzleloader. I am fine with that season IMO because cold weather sets in and reduces herd stress with lower hunters out. I wish they'd shorten regular, make it split (if needed as noted), and later after T-Day. EAB isn't rock solid biology IMO or hunter management. None of that crap makes a difference on a macro level when small private parcels are the lay of the land and most people sit in a stand not disrupting their grounds. Fix access above all else. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knehrke Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, phade said: The late season is with a muzzleloader. I am fine with that season IMO because cold weather sets in and reduces herd stress with lower hunters out. I wish they'd shorten regular, make it split (if needed as noted), and later after T-Day. EAB isn't rock solid biology IMO or hunter management. None of that crap makes a difference on a macro level when small private parcels are the lay of the land and most people sit in a stand not disrupting their grounds. Fix access above all else. x2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 hours ago, G-Man said: It's not that people can't get it done they pass doe repeatedly waiting for their buck and this wont change a thing for those guys. I know I am specifically not hunting the season so I wont mess up my bow season. That said, I still shoot doe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 hours ago, WNYTRPR said: Judging by the group that I know hunts, this is true . I am guilty of letting many doe walk when I could have easily harvested . grampy said it well though too, not everyone needs more than one deer. My dad is in this boat. Just him and my mom left and he'd obviously rather harvest a buck. Me? I could use 3 or 4 haha. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYTRPR Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, Belo said: grampy said it well though too, not everyone needs more than one deer. My dad is in this boat. Just him and my mom left and he'd obviously rather harvest a buck. Me? I could use 3 or 4 haha. 3-4 bucks ?yes ! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Belo said: grampy said it well though too, not everyone needs more than one deer. My dad is in this boat. Just him and my mom left and he'd obviously rather harvest a buck. Me? I could use 3 or 4 haha. Donate them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: Donate them That's just not me, and hopefully others can respect that. If I'm going to take a life it's for me and my family. Sure I might give some cuts or sausage to friends and extended family, but that's about it. I don't have issue with those who donate, just as I hope others understand that it's not for me to shoot and donate. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Belo said: That's just not me, and hopefully others can respect that. If I'm going to take a life it's for me and my family. Sure I might give some cuts or sausage to friends and extended family, but that's about it. I don't have issue with those who donate, just as I hope others understand that it's not for me to shoot and donate. "Just not you"...I don't understand. If it's not wasted, helps achieve management goals and isn't costing you anything, what's the negative? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I got a great feeling donating about 30 pounds to a family from Moog’s church . Honestly it seemed they needed the meat, where for me it’s just a benefit from a hobby , that I try to eat up before the next season . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachunter Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Personally I'd be happy if the seasons started last week of october,but that's just me.If i can score three deer of ether sex i'm good a fourth would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachunter Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 5 hours ago, wolc123 said: It had been a few years since we ate any doe meat, but the last one that we just started on a few weeks ago is pretty good. It had been in the freezer and vacuum sealed since November 2019. We have been cooking the roasts in the crock pot, and even my daughters are really liking them. There is only one of them roasts left in the freezer now. That gives me incentive to get out there early. I have a busy afternoon planned: checking the zeros on 3 guns, trimming some shooting lanes, and planting a couple of wheat/white clover plots. I'm just curious why you think a buck tastes better then a doe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, rachunter said: I'm just curious why you think a buck tastes better then a doe? The peen. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYTRPR Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 44 minutes ago, Belo said: That's just not me, and hopefully others can respect that. If I'm going to take a life it's for me and my family. Sure I might give some cuts or sausage to friends and extended family, but that's about it. I don't have issue with those who donate, just as I hope others understand that it's not for me to shoot and donate. You buy the tags ,put the time in ,and use your equipment to harvest ,it’s your choice what you do with it ,nobody else’s. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 4 hours ago, rachunter said: I'm just curious why you think a buck tastes better then a doe? My issue with does, is that it takes me a lot of extra effort trimming fat, compared to bucks. Because of that, it takes me about an hour and a half longer, on average, to process a doe. As long as I put in the time to do that fat trimming, then I think does taste as good or even slightly better than bucks of the same age. Our girls definitely seem to like them better. Because my time is always limited, I prefer the killing and processing bucks. Since they are not on the table for the special September gun season, I will gladly "settle" for a doe. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisw Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I see some people eluding to "well if hunters would shoot more does during the normal season we wouldn't have to do it." First off you're assuming that the NYS DEC has a clue about those deer numbers in the first place. I hunt 800 acres of leased land in 8f as well as some state land and I can tell you nowhere I've been is over run by does. And if the places that are overpopulated are private, this again solves no issue as the public can't access it anyhow. We need to start a program like other states have that allow parcels to be "leased" by the state for hunter access. How did the Dec come to this conclusion of overpopulation? If it's a matter of "people letting does go" then what is this going to change? The same people that don't, still won't and vice versa. I have zero faith in NY giving any sound advice about deer numbers. As far as the state is concerned, no deer is the best number. Also, isn't it funny how the state can't get crossbow into the archery season but can toss a whole separate gun season in the off season at the drop of a hat? Sent from my moto g fast using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisw Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Some of you tastebud extraordinnaires kill me. I would love to prepare venison dishes from 6 different sex/age class deer and see you tell the difference. You wouldn't. If you're tasting that much of a difference then it's a meat "care" or preparation issue. IMO. I've killed a lot of deer in this state from all over and have never noticed a distinct difference in flavor/taste of different age classes or sex. With the only exception being fawns are typically more tender in certain cuts... Sent from my moto g fast using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 The peen.The funny part is at least for him there is some truth to that Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky118 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Haven't shot a doe in 15 yrs. Don't like to remove my bait. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Haven't shot a doe in 15 yrs. Don't like to remove my bait. LolI got you beat! 2001 for me Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 If that passes ,biz will need the number of a good drywall guy.I wouldn’t have an issue. Kill a doe on random Stateland early to get it out of the way. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 19 hours ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: "Just not you"...I don't understand. If it's not wasted, helps achieve management goals and isn't costing you anything, what's the negative? It's not a negative. It's just something I choose not to do. The same as some pass yearling bucks, some don't shoot buttons, some wont shoot a doe with fawns etc. The actual harvesting an animal is very far down on my list of reasons that I hunt. I eat everything I hunt, and that includes squirrel. We fry up bluegills etc. To shoot and donate is not something I like to do. Again, not casting any stones at those who do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 12 hours ago, chrisw said: I see some people eluding to "well if hunters would shoot more does during the normal season we wouldn't have to do it." First off you're assuming that the NYS DEC has a clue about those deer numbers in the first place. I hunt 800 acres of leased land in 8f as well as some state land and I can tell you nowhere I've been is over run by does. And if the places that are overpopulated are private, this again solves no issue as the public can't access it anyhow. We need to start a program like other states have that allow parcels to be "leased" by the state for hunter access. How did the Dec come to this conclusion of overpopulation? If it's a matter of "people letting does go" then what is this going to change? The same people that don't, still won't and vice versa. I have zero faith in NY giving any sound advice about deer numbers. As far as the state is concerned, no deer is the best number. Also, isn't it funny how the state can't get crossbow into the archery season but can toss a whole separate gun season in the off season at the drop of a hat? Sent from my moto g fast using Tapatalk 100. An extra week in mosquito weather that requires a hunter to muck up his grounds a few weeks before bow opener and rush to process his kill isn't going to all the sudden get him to shoot a doe, when the same hunter wasn't doing so until post rut anyhow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Biz-R-OWorld said: I wouldn’t have an issue. Kill a doe on random Stateland early to get it out of the way. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro You know what's kind of funny though. I've spent plenty of seasons passing dozens and dozens of doe. Then I've decided it's time to fill the freezer or this particular season I'll tag a doe early and all the sudden they're gone. It's like seeing turkey in the fall and deer in the spring. I swear somehow they know haha 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 19 hours ago, rachunter said: I'm just curious why you think a buck tastes better then a doe? He eats the balls and well... let's face it ,not much for balls on them does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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