How has the US become so divided?

[BowmanMike]

11 hours ago, Grouse said:

You need to realize you continue to confuse your opinion with facts.  

Haha,you crack me up. Calling out people on the same crap you do. 

[left field]

4 hours ago, Grouse said:

Lefty, you failed to notice only one of those posts is mine, they all just got a reply from me that day, and one day in May doesn't make your case.  But I will give you an A for effort seeing how much work you had to do to find that one day.

Weren't you one of the people who encouraged all of the Trump witch hunts?

Whether starting or replying to ad infinitum it does show that you flood the subforum.

I didn't encourage a witch hunt but I've made no secret in the fact that I consider Trump a degenerate POS and a terrible president. 

2 hours ago, 9jNYstarkOH said:

Can you go back and search like this or have you been holding onto this screen shot?

I opened the forum up one day and there was grouse flooding the forum again. It struck me as funny. The screen shot took a moment and I have kept it aside for his "who me?" moment. It took about a minute to find and post.

[Grouse]

I have to laugh at how many dedicated haters I have on this forum.  None of them ever seem to address anything I post other than to say they hate everything I post.  I'm amused by how easily they are triggered and their ad hominem replies, which they always resort to when they cannot refute my posts with an intelligent counter argument.  They're truly indoctrinated and refuse to listen to any opposing opinions, just like they were indoctrinated to do.  They seem to find it easier to think what they're told to think.

No matter how many times I've offered to debate them on any issue they would like to debate, they always resort to insults and avoid any intellectual discussions.  Then they claim the high ground and moral superiority.  This is typical of the minions on the left.  They believe they are morally superior because they are told by their handlers they are.  

This is where the division in this country comes from.  Closed minded people who cannot intelligently see any issue from the other side and discuss the advantages and disadvantages of their position, will never unite with anyone they disagree with.  Worse yet, they will attack them personally and vilify everything and anything they say or do, in an attempt to influence others to disqualify what they are proposing.

There are no witches on this forum, but there are many who are saying there are.

 

[airedale]

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

they cannot refute my posts with an intelligent counter argument. 

That is exactly why they hate you, no answers! As for me I like being informed, keep up the good work and fight Grouse.

Al

[diplomat019]

When you were told to “ wear a mask outdoors” its nice to see you are a good little company man.   Free thinkers would refute such simple minded orders.  

[DirtTime]

2 hours ago, Grouse said:

I have to laugh at how many dedicated haters I have on this forum.  None of them ever seem to address anything I post other than to say they hate everything I post.  I'm amused by how easily they are triggered and their ad hominem replies, which they always resort to when they cannot refute my posts with an intelligent counter argument.  They're truly indoctrinated and refuse to listen to any opposing opinions, just like they were indoctrinated to do.  They seem to find it easier to think what they're told to think.

No matter how many times I've offered to debate them on any issue they would like to debate, they always resort to insults and avoid any intellectual discussions.  Then they claim the high ground and moral superiority.  This is typical of the minions on the left.  They believe they are morally superior because they are told by their handlers they are.  

This is where the division in this country comes from.  Closed minded people who cannot intelligently see any issue from the other side and discuss the advantages and disadvantages of their position, will never unite with anyone they disagree with.  Worse yet, they will attack them personally and vilify everything and anything they say or do, in an attempt to influence others to disqualify what they are proposing.

There are no witches on this forum, but there are many who are saying there are.

 

Dude! You're one of, if not the, most closed minded person I have ever seen type anything on any forum. People have rebutted you with facts, but you don't want to hear it. Totalitarian can have more then one meaning.

44 minutes ago, airedale said:

That is exactly why they hate you, no answers! As for me I like being informed, keep up the good work and fight Grouse.

Al

It's not hate. C'mon man! He tosses around just as many hatred posts and insulting posts as those he claims oppose him. It's his over-saturation of shoving his way of thinking down peoples throats and saying it's the only way, yet he cries for everyone to have freedom. It's also funny he takes these hiatuses for years and when he gets a chance to do nothing but spew politics instead of hunting topics he comes out of the woodwork. Hunting topics don't get him posting, but spewing his agenda sure does. I very sincerely think he's one of the over zealous political people that was ether banned or left, but didn't really leave. When a hole gets plugged and another leak spouts, it's the same source forcing the issue.

[steve863]

39 minutes ago, DirtTime said:

Dude! You're one of, if not the, most closed minded person I have ever seen type anything on any forum. People have rebutted you with facts, but you don't want to hear it. Totalitarian can have more then one meaning.

It's not hate. C'mon man! He tosses around just as many hatred posts and insulting posts as those he claims oppose him. It's his over-saturation of shoving his way of thinking down peoples throats and saying it's the only way, yet he cries for everyone to have freedom. It's also funny he takes these hiatuses for years and when he gets a chance to do nothing but spew politics instead of hunting topics he comes out of the woodwork. Hunting topics don't get him posting, but spewing his agenda sure does. I very sincerely think he's one of the over zealous political people that was ether banned or left, but didn't really leave. When a hole gets plugged and another leak spouts, it's the same source forcing the issue.

 

Trust me, we are not the first to tell him what he is and what he can do with himself.  If in everyday life he talks and acts like he does on this forum he's surely heard it many, MANY times before.  People get sick and tired of listening to know it all's real quick.   Especially the ones who only regurgitate one sided political views and anyone who disagrees with any of it is automatically labeled a pinko/left wing/communist.  That's Grouse to a T. 

 

 

 

 

[airedale]

I stand by w

53 minutes ago, DirtTime said:

It's not hate. C'mon man! He tosses around just as many hatred posts and insulting posts as those he claims oppose him.

I stand by my post 100%

Al

[Merlot]

I like Grouse's commentary. I the meantime, yesterday, Biden makes a speech basically not approving of capitalism....that it doesn't work and he wants, or his puppet masters who wrote the speech behind the curtain, want to change how we do things... or pretty close to that. 

Scary stuff coming from the monsters running things on the left. Prefer Trump right about now. 

[Grouse]

"We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." —John F. Kennedy (1917-1963)

[Doc]

So what is it about our resident lefties that makes them so sensitive to actually hearing some of the things their commie mainstream news organizations do not want to report on. Who cares if someone is trying to crack through the mainstream socialist news blackouts regarding this wack-job that has wound up in the Whitehouse. Don't be so scared of hearing an opposing viewpoint. It won't hurt you, and you might even learn something. Heaven knows that our lefty voters truly need to learn a lot of things. Be thankful that somebody other than our U.S. version of Pravda is speaking up around here once in a while just to try to keep you informed about what your misguided votes have done to us. 

[Grouse]

Justice Clarence Thomas on the division in America.

Despite the strident voices dividing us today, Thomas observes “there are many more of us, I think, who feel America is not so broken, as it is adrift at sea.”

“For whatever it is worth, the Declaration of Independence has weathered every storm for 245 years. It birthed a great nation. It abolished the sin of slavery. … While we have failed the ideals of the declaration time and again, I know of no time when the ideals have failed us.”

The Declaration of Independence “establishes a moral ideal that we as citizens are duty-bound to uphold and sustain. We may fall short, but our imperfection does not relieve us of our obligation.”

Thomas’ message about the declaration may be summarized: There are eternal truths; they are true for all of humanity; and it is the personal responsibility of each individual to live up to them.

Thomas’ detractors are those who reject these premises. This defines the culture war that so deeply and dangerously divides America today.

 

https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/09/22/clarence-thomas-remarks-reveal-americas-true-culture-war/?utm_source=TDS_Email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CapitolBell&mkt_tok=ODI0LU1IVC0zMDQAAAF_rhXFqF59OecsPnlvd6Z2W_puF4Ezqamu0RONPcErPUnmPeLv3xMMlQ9GY6HfZafIBFGG2XBnzzYGioIliS2L82ahHWPjZUtwSFFPK5_sYF2Q5u4

[Doc]

We talk about political divisiveness like it is a new new invention of the decade........Ha-ha-ha. You should have herd the kinds of red-faced arguments that the adult males used to have around the Thanksgiving Day dinner table when I was a kid almost 80 years ago. I still remember that huge vein that used to expand down the forehead of my father as his face turned red and the volume of his voice elevated as he was arguing about the Democrats. And then the same kind of impassioned response would come from the other end of the table. All of us kids sitting ate the "kids" table wre convinced that there would be violence breaking out any minute. But you know as heated as those political arguments got, there was laughing and joking that always happened afterward.

Has anything really changed over the years? Political debate...... it is healthy and keeps the brain activated and exercised.

[ncountry]

After traveling 2/3s of the way across this country on my recent trip, I am left with the same thoughts that I've always had.

We met nothing but good and  occasionally exceptional  people.

If everybody would step away from their keyboard or TV and talk to each other we would realize this as a matter of fact..