Do deer go completely nocturnal during late season?

[Northcountryman]

  On 12/21/2021 at 8:35 PM, Versatile_Hunter said:

As the days shorten and the sun sets earlier, deer too begin to move earlier in the day.

Circadian rhythms (think of it as an intrinsic biological clocks in cells where gene expression and other cellular activities go up and down) cycle outside of external input. Specific circuits in the eye detect changes in ambient light and entrain (synchronize) these biological rhythms to light and dark cycles. You can see that dear activity (prominent in the evening peak) increases earlier as the seasons proceed from summer-fall-winter. This is consistent with the sun setting earlier through the seasonal progression.  

 

 

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Yes, but why is the summer curves peak nearly identical with winter when sunst is delayed a few hours?  It seems as though its more time dependent . doesmt it? Actually, maybe daily savings might come into play here as well, right?

[Northcountryman]

Wait: I see what youre saying; yes, the curve does shift right for summer and fall-nice. 

[Versatile_Hunter]

  On 12/21/2021 at 8:50 PM, Northcountryman said:

Yes, but why is the summer curves peak nearly identical with winter when sunst is delayed a few hours?  It seems as though its more time dependent . doesmt it? Actually, maybe daily savings might come into play here as well, right?

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I think my yellow highlighter is making the purple trace look orange.

[WNYBuckHunter]

  On 12/21/2021 at 2:31 PM, jperch said:

Oh yeah, opening morning sounded like a war zone back then.  At the end of opening day the highway (390 or maybe 15 back then?) was stuffed with deer hunters in trucks driving home to Rochester.

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I remember many years as a kid watching what was essentially a parade of trucks headed south the night before opening day and early opening morning. I also remember being part of that parade my first few years of hunting. We would get to state land like Rattlesnake Hill, HiTor, Keeney Swamp, etc and there would be hunters all over the place. For years we would take campers and generators to Coyle Hill and camp there for a week, and there were tons of folks doing the same. You just don’t have that stuff anymore. 

[Four Seasons]

  On 12/21/2021 at 12:37 PM, wolc123 said:

I am loving the changes they made this year and have been able to capitalize on three of them: 1) early antlerless season 2) early ML antlerless reopened in Adirondacks 3) extra half hour before and after     Daylight.  
 

So, I wish to offer you a sincere “thank you” if your complaints helped contribute to those positive changes which have contributed greatly towards my own sending of 3 deer to Heaven so far this year.  Hopefully, I will get to send at least one more there during the upcoming Holiday ML season.

Another big Thankyou to my friends with the Northern Erie Snowseekers for doing what they have to make sure that special season takes place.

May you all have the merriest of Christmasses , and thanks so much for your contributions to those three early gifts which the Good Lord had already blessed our family with.

 

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  Oh look.  Pic number 114 of 80 inch antlers from a meat hunter. I would be more impressed if he had a big set of nuts. 

[Four Seasons]

  On 12/21/2021 at 1:00 PM, wolc123 said:

That’s 90 pounds of meat in our freezer and I put it up again just for you , Chris, and FSW because they just love seeing it. 

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  Or more so because your an idiot. 

[wolc123]

  On 12/21/2021 at 9:49 PM, Four Seasons said:

  Oh look.  Pic number 114 of 80 inch antlers from a meat hunter. I would be more impressed if he had a big set of nuts. 
 

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What about the two broken off points on the right and the extra sticker on the left.  He’d be lucky to net 70 points as a typical.  Thanks for your generosity.

 

[Northcountryman]

  On 12/21/2021 at 5:40 PM, Trial153 said:

A good graph and the accompanying article.

https://www.deerassociation.com/deer-movement-is-a-mystery-stop-trying-to-solve-it/

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Notice another curious feature of the graph: the only major seasonallly dependent variance in deer movement appears to occur in the afternoon/ dusk time period. As VH stated, it shifts left from summer to winter as  sunset time gets earlier;  But the sunrise time window of movement pattern stays faily consistent, regardless of time of year.  I wonder whats up with that I wonder?

[Gobbler Chaser]

  On 12/21/2021 at 10:12 AM, wolc123 said:

They are trophy hunters and that’s what they do.   I am thankful that God made me a meat hunter and I can’t think of any state that treats my kind better than NY.

My advice to the complainers would be : pack your bags and move, if you don’t love it leave it.

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Im with you there. Just bagged a nice meat doe on Sunday. Plan on doing a couple nice sits right after Christmas

[Four Seasons]

  On 12/21/2021 at 10:15 PM, wolc123 said:

What about the two broken off points on the right and the extra sticker on the left.  He’d be lucky to net 70 points as a typical.  Thanks for your generosity.

 

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Exactly!!!!   Not much there worthy of all that publicity. 

[wolc123]

  On 12/21/2021 at 11:41 PM, Four Seasons said:

Exactly!!!!   Not much there worthy of all that publicity. 

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Picture #117 shows the only measurement on that buck that matters much to me:

Merry Christmas FSW.  Are you heading down to Letchworth after to try for your southern target ?  If so, I hope you get him. 

 

[Gobbler Chaser]

If we had snow cover we could do some track hunting and pop one getting up out of a daytime bedding spot. Not easy but possible

[Versatile_Hunter]

  On 12/21/2021 at 11:27 PM, Northcountryman said:

Notice another curious feature of the graph: the only major seasonallly dependent variance in deer movement appears to occur in the afternoon/ dusk time period. As VH stated, it shifts left from summer to winter as  sunset time gets earlier;  But the sunrise time window of movement pattern stays faily consistent, regardless of time of year.  I wonder whats up with that I wonder?

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Maybe this explains it a little: https://www.gaisma.com/en/location/raleigh-north-carolina.html

[phade]

  On 12/21/2021 at 9:27 PM, WNYBuckHunter said:

I remember many years as a kid watching what was essentially a parade of trucks headed south the night before opening day and early opening morning. I also remember being part of that parade my first few years of hunting. We would get to state land like Rattlesnake Hill, HiTor, Keeney Swamp, etc and there would be hunters all over the place. For years we would take campers and generators to Coyle Hill and camp there for a week, and there were tons of folks doing the same. You just don’t have that stuff anymore. 

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You need to come to Missouri - you'll get that experience there for sure, but without any of the BS (at least not at that level). Opening week of Missouri is very much like I remember it as a younger kid and adult. It's unreal. the most fun week every year now.

[Trial153]

  On 12/22/2021 at 3:53 PM, phade said:

You need to come to Missouri - you'll get that experience there for sure, but without any of the BS (at least not at that level). Opening week of Missouri is very much like I remember it as a younger kid and adult. It's unreal. the most fun week every year now.

How long is the gun Season? 14 days?

[phade]

  On 12/22/2021 at 4:51 PM, Trial153 said:

How long is the gun Season? 14 days?

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They have several seasons - three or four of them but spaced out. Starts in the rut, though.

[WNYTRPR]

  On 12/21/2021 at 10:15 PM, wolc123 said:

What about the two broken off points on the right and the extra sticker on the left.  He’d be lucky to net 70 points as a typical.  Thanks for your generosity.

 

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Nice buck 

[phade]

  On 12/22/2021 at 7:10 PM, WNYTRPR said:

Nice buck 

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That buck has been on more screens than Mia Khalifa.

[WNYTRPR]

  On 12/22/2021 at 7:16 PM, phade said:

That buck has been on more screens than Mia Khalifa.

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Who’s this Mia that you speak of ?care to share a pic ?

[phade]

  On 12/22/2021 at 7:22 PM, WNYTRPR said:

Who’s this Mia that you speak of ?care to share a pic ?

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Not from this work computer, lol.

[WNYTRPR]

  On 12/22/2021 at 7:28 PM, phade said:

Not from this work computer, lol.

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[WNYBuckHunter]

  On 12/22/2021 at 3:53 PM, phade said:

You need to come to Missouri - you'll get that experience there for sure, but without any of the BS (at least not at that level). Opening week of Missouri is very much like I remember it as a younger kid and adult. It's unreal. the most fun week every year now.

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I’d love to go. If you and David want company next year, let me know. 

[WNYBuckHunter]

  On 12/22/2021 at 7:16 PM, phade said:

That buck has been on more screens than Mia Khalifa.

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That’s a lot of screens 

[cas]

I think in large part deer do what they normally do, when they normally do it. Whether the sun is shinning or not due to what season it is doesn't really matter to them.

See a lot of deer in the late afternoons and evenings in the summer? Sure, but in December it would have been dark four and a half hours ago.

[buckordoe]

If you drive around I see a lot of deer feeding in fields at noon this time of year, probably because it’s a warmer time of day 

never see them at dawn like I do in October November