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Got my gun buck back today. The taxidermist at S&S did yet another amazing job. This guy turned out to be a real stud. Couldn't be happier ! And my 12 gun, 14 bow and 14 gun

I can't believe that they can't remove enough does through the permitting system. Heck, if they are serious about wiping down the deer population, just eliminate the permits completely in select areas and place a daily bag limit like they do down south. I know there are enough game hogs around to knock the hell out of the deer population under those rules. Want to thin them out? ..... legalize jack-lighting. Hunt them with dogs. Open a snare season. Come-on get as ridiculous as you need. Enough of those kinds of rules, and they'll get the herd down to the level where you'll hardly ever see one, which is apparently what they are really after. I mean if you want to eliminate the herd, there are a lot more effective ways of doing it than taking away hunting opportunities from bow hunters (and soon to be x-bow hunters).

This post is a little late but either way, I took this awesome tom on opening day here in NY. I won't bother with his stats as the pictures do enough justice. The picture of him with the decoys was taken moments before I pulled the trigger. Love his "hawk" feather and paintbrush beard. One of my best turkeys in awhile! Also, you can see this hunt on the following video: Starting at the 2:00 mark

I'm sure he can't. We don't have the clearance.

In comment #7, I posted a link yesterday to an article that quotes the deputy sheriff of Deleware County, stating that he and his office have visited the site multiple times and have found no evidence to support the claims made about the people living there.

Id rather them just go to OBR, get rid of the either sex tags, and give people less of a reason to pass does while they wait for Ol' Mossy Horns to walk by. Then they might not just whack the first dink that walks by for meat, then trophy hunt, they either burn that buck tag or start shooting does.

I will guarantee that such a rule will immediately be followed by the biggest buck of my lifetime walking in at 15 yards posing broadside, and then turning around and posing with the other side exposed, followed by a sound that is very much like laughter.

I like the experience of walking in to many of my spots. I also like the experience of hunting with my 80 year old father, of which he cannot walk, but sit on a bucket and wait for deer or someone to talk to . I haul him into the woods on a side by side. I don't apologize for it, I don't believe I'm any less an outdoorsman than if I walk. I also don't believe his experience is any less wonderful since he rode in. He's out enjoying being part of something, and isn't this what it is all about?

If we accept and support everthing blindly we would have had fracking. Its that we didn't support it and the people fought for change. We fought for the environment against the interest of the Oil and Gas Industry. Who were dangeling carrots in hopes we would let them destroy our land and environment for money. That is a moral and ethical victory we should be proud of, I am.

Decided to give a turkey euro a try today. I didn't realize how many nuts and bolts were in one of these things. Fortunately I took LOTS of reference photos had some spare parts laying around in the bone pile just in case. I had to swap a few out that must have got misplaced or broken during the shootout. Still gotta add some finishing touches to it (nasal bones), but it's done for the most part. Most likely paint this one white. I'm not crazy about the look of bird skulls, but it was a fun/relaxing little project, and sure beat the heck out of mowing the grass......, again!

The southern zone regular firearms season is one of the longest in the NE. Yet, they manage to screw up doe population management. Answer that riddle for me before shoving crap down the bowhunter crowd's throat.

In post 13, Sir VJP reminded me of an in-law who claims we need not worry about government spying on Americans IF we are innocent. Nice.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article21384351.html Luckily, it seems that Mr. Dumond got his name spelled correctly when he spoke to the Associated Press about this subject yesterday.

So basically we are essentially back to the Oct 15th bow opener....

you have any idea how many yearling bucks would also be saved it that was implemented?.....if you ask me, that's a great idea.

Far left and far right are both 14 deer, taken from the same area ( within 100yrds ) and the one in the middle is from franklinville. Also, it is very possible that the one on the right is the grandad of the one on the left, the right was 6.5 yrs old, and has been on the property all his life so it's safe to assume he has fathered some boys in his life !

Government has became a big business, and it exists today without any competition.

I have been meaning to post this for a few weeks now but never got to it. Opening day was an heck of an eventful morning. We got out a little late, but I heard a few on the roost as I waited for my brother and old man to get moving out of the house. By time we got in it was wayyy to light out so we got in as close as comfortable to where I hear the bird and setup. Had nothing going by 7 or so, so we started moving uphill, which is typically where the bird go in the morning. By time we got up to an old logging road it was 8AM and the old man had to head to work. So my brother and I headed south on this logging road towards a very productive area. We got to the area and I let a few calls out, and boom two bird from different directions! One on the same level as us further south and another a few levels down the hill to the east. So we move in about 60 yards or so and drop down one level and set up. By now we have three birds going, the bird on our level has a buddy! At this point the bird below us stopped gobbling though. The pair kept coming in and my brother signaled to me that he saw them so I shut up and waited. A few minutes later I could see a red and white head spinning around on top of the rock ledge above us. Finally he got too curious and dropped down of the ledge and moved down hill past my brother, gobbling along the way. He was in range at this point so a few clucks here and there trying to get my brother a shot but my brother I realized after didnt have a clean shot. As the bird starts moving down hill I see his buddy drop down the ledge and start walking into an opening where I would have a shot too, then BOOOMMMM! As soon as my brother shot I started with an aggressive cut and the second gobbler stopped in his tracks and gobbled, but I had no shot. He slowly started moving away towards his hens gobbling the whole time but I never had a clean shot at him. As I am about to get up there is a gobble behind me! The third bird that was below us circled around and came up to our level silent the whole time! So I asked my brother if his bird was down and he said like a rock. I spun around by tree slowly and gave a few yelps and he gobbled back. Finally I saw him about 70 to 80 yards out in full strut, spinning around like a top. Was like a black ball with a giant q-tip in front of it. I went silent and he kept gobbling every few minutes but was hung up. After about 30 minutes I pulled out the gobble tube and started going back at him. He was coming back at me every time and I could see his head going red to white and back. He wouldn’t move though and after 15 or 20 minutes I decided it was time to go to him. I shed my vest and everything but my gun and started the belly crawl over. I had some decent cover and could use the land to my advantage. Unfortunately he started moving off and for every 10 yards I went he went 15 the other way. I finally realized that wasn't going to work so I retreated back to my brother and told him I was going to do a wide circle around and try to get in front of him. By time I got to where I expected him to cross he was still ahead of me and I watched him walk up hill a head of me gobbling. So my went back to my brother and we got his bird, not his biggest that we called in but certainly a nice, likely 2 year old. Once we got the bird back to the truck we decided to go and chase the other bird. He chased him around gobbling at us until noon when the whistle went off and then headed home. I wanted to double up with him so bad, but it wasn't to be. Still a heck of a day and great to call one in for the bro.

The only pic I got of him. Late bow season

An now we don't have any deer .. it was buck only in 6f? i think. In the areas that are overpopulated i like the earn a buck tag idea. if I had to kill three does to get to a buck I would have 3 in the freezer before Nov1st fersure.....lol

Shoot 2 doe to get buck take in areas, or open it for crossbow doe only as well..one way to get full inclusion.. and In my opinion the whole reason x bow was allowed, they want/need higher deer take..

It should be earn a buck...for one thing 8N where they need to get rid of doe...if you get one doe tag for there and say 8X which isn't in the area then you can only take 1 doe anyways...Freaking think DEC!!..... you DO NOT release the other 2 EXTRA tags 8N hunters can get until NOV. 1...It makes NO sense what so EVER!

Are these all things that you did before turning tail and crawling out of the state in defeat? Did you withhold your payroll and property taxes as a protest before you ran away? Maybe all that stuff sounds so much better as advice for others than as actual deeds for yourself. It's much easier to run away than to follow your own advice, isn't it?

I'll bet that an awful lot of those bucks , will be reported killed on the 16th day of the season .....

The corporate thieves and rapists are using the federal regulatory system to further their plunder by reducing or eliminating competition from the market. The government loves the system because they get lots and lots of money to play that game. The plunderers love the system because, well, it eliminates any free-market competition and they can focus on making money rather than earning it. The label of hate today is "crony capitalism". It's actually crony socialism, and the government regulation that makes it work so effectively today makes it "Crony Fascism". This is the face of government regulation in the US today. It's how the game is played. I won't apologize for advocating against that kind of tyranny. I don't see anyone here advocating for anarchy. But the allowance of a little free-market capitalism would be a nice change of pace at this point. Smart people fix problems. Smart people don't often work in government.

Mr. Schiavone, I am submitting comments toward the proposed antlerless harvest and DMAP regulations, which are open for comment through June 29, 2015. I am opposed to the antlerless-only designation for the first 15 days of the early archery season within the wildlife management units (WMUs) that are included within the proposal. I am also opposed to the antlerless-only modifications to the late archery and muzzleloader seasons within the same WMUs. There are many logical and scientific reasons for this opposition; however, here are some key factors that make the proposals a poor regulation to implement: Archery harvests represent a small fractional portion of the overall antlerless harvest across the various seasons and implements. This proposal eliminates opportunity for buck harvest, a major engagement to drive bowhunters into the field, while at the same time providing only a very minor increase in antlerless harvest. If a similar or in-kind proposal was made for the regular firearms season, this may be much more effective at attaining desired harvest levels. Additionally, with crossbow included in the back portion of the early archery season, this leaves roughly only 15 days with which vertical bowhunters have to harvest a buck without added hunting pressure. Muzzleloader hunting is a growing segment; however, such a regulation would likely limit this growth and may result in contraction of the muzzleloading hunting population. Some of the units within this proposal have recently moved to rifle allowance, reducing the use of muzzleloaders in the regular season where it was chosen over shotgun use. Pair this with zero opportunity for a potential buck harvest within the late muzzleloader season, there will be a reduced desire to go afield during the late season, a time where inclement weather is likely. It also will reduce the justifications for owning and hunting with a muzzleloader for many sportsmen and women with the implement only being used for late season hunting on does, a very narrow window of opportunity. The added emphasis on antlerless during this time may also increase the likelihood of bucks that have shed their antlers being killed. I believe the units that need antlerless herd reduction should move to an over-the-counter method of issuing tags after the initial DMP draw. This allows tags to be obtained by hunters who are able and willing to fill them rather than simply providing them en masse to the hunting population within those units. After the two DMPs are filled, hunters should be able to go to an issuing agent and obtain one or two supplemental DMPs, with the process repeating until the DEC deems that no added tags should be issued. Rather than having second-chance drawings and consignments, this method will remove barriers to those who have access, the desire, and the ability to harvest additional does. Removing the limitations on capping doe harvest at the individual hunter level seems to be a plausible and reasonable management effort before making such drastic regulatory changes to the aforementioned seasons. Again, this change to over-the-counter is merely systematic; it does NOT reduce opportunity for sportsmen to take a buck for portions of the various seasons, and instead offers added benefits to hunter engagement and increases days afield for those who can fill the tags. In conclusion, I strongly oppose the antlerless-only designation for the first 15 days of the early archery season within the wildlife management units (WMUs) that are included within the proposal. I am also opposed to the antlerless-only modifications to the late archery and muzzleloader seasons within the same WMUs. Thanks,

Every year that goes by, I lose a bit more durability. Having already had a stroke, I do wonder about what kind of stress I should be putting my body through. And then there is the fact that we now call the hill a killer because we lost our neighbor, who was younger than me by quite a bit, to a heart attack 1/2 way up the hill. The fact is that I actually walk more ground because of the ATV. Rather than using all my energy just getting up the hill, I generally park just under the top ridge to keep the sound over the edge, and walk up about 50 yards to the crest and walk wherever I want to from there. It means that I can hunt quite a bit deeper in than I would be able to if I didn't have the ATV. Now, all that sounds like I am trying to justify my using the ATV as a hunting assist. I am not. I used the quad since the early 80's for transport and for dragging deer out because it made sense to extend my distance, and to use the assist for deer dragging. There is no virtue to hunting harder, and no vice to hunting smarter.

I've reconsidered! LOL!

I don't need to call him. I'll ask him about this when I see him. I'm sure he'll be quite amused. BTW, I have great respect for the man and his strong opposition to the SAFE Act.

No, they spell it wrong, again. Probably because they are just using the same info from the other article, having never spoken to DuMond.

Maybe I'd give the article about the Delaware County Deputy Sheriff some credibility if they actually spelled his name correctly: Undersheriff Craig S. DuMond Perhaps they were quoting someone else, or trying to avoid being sued for slander. I know DuMond and have worked with him. I do not believe anything that article claims he said. Here's an article from Canada about the place. Believe what you like. http://canadafreepress.com/2007/cover061107h.htm

I shoot any deer that comes into range and offers a good shot...yes that is with a mature buck addendum... but any time a doe is there and weather not crazy hot I'll take her...some years it's a doe or 2 before I ever get a chance at a buck..Others it's a buck first but then I go right out for the doe...Truth be known...I have a more difficult time beating a smart doe than a buck..very seldom do I have bucks walking around looking in the air...I have trail cam pics of doe walking around day and night looking up into the trees.

I dont think it was 5k in 2 weeks, it was 5k reported as taken with xbow through the entire season. Remember, you report what weapon you kill the animal with.

Great job, some nice footage, and no bs. Keep 'em coming!

Anybody ever wonder if maybe we are asking our cars to do just a little too much for us these days? Yeah, I realize how great it is to have the wonderful long life, high mileage and super conveniences on the modern cars. I do remember when getting a car to go 100,000 miles was almost unheard of. But really, some of these things that go wrong these days are absolutely aimed at killing the driver and occupants. No prior warnings, the car just decides on its own that it is going to take off at top speed? Damn! what if there had been a line of cars in front of her? What if she was just coming into a hairpin curve? What if their was a busy intersection coming up that had a stop light or a stop sign? The ugly scenarios go on and on. It seems that maybe some of the design standards need a bit of tightening. I know that I don't ever want to encounter something like that. I might not be quite as lucky.

Amazing pictures and a very nice bird congrsts

Great bird and pics. Congrats.

I do not believe you..lol.. Honestly?.... You actualy used the "if you don't not have anything to hide " argument? really? I do/did not believe you would go against your own values just because you do not like or trust a group. Though, I am sure any of the reason you listed could be put to work as an excuse to enter. It is done everyday to "regular" Americans when someone deems it necessary. You and I would both rail against this i would think. It is interesting when debating topics like this. It is all about perspective... Anything can be justified given the proper perspective.

I like that. "Nothing" the Daily Star put at the top on page one. Yes, "move along". We don't want anyone to know what is actually going on. It doesn't fit with our beliefs.

Wouldn't you be leading the protest against violations of our rights, if this was a christian or just plain old American militia compound?

Got a surprise my brother picked up my deer head and brought it down to camp for me!

I was watching a beautiful buck,not kidding 160 in plus in a field when a neighbor started up his atv the buck looked in that direction and jumped into the woods.. learned responce? You bet! My area is completly quiet till two weekends before season. Ever camp up the road is flying around the woods with atv hanging stands,scouting, ect.. they all.ask why I have so many deer on my place.. they sca re them all into my quiet sanctuary. Young bucks does maybe let you drive up on th if you have driven around enough to let them get familiar and comfortable with the sound but in my experiance most do not. I stay out of my woods for a month before season and deer seem to love the peace and quiet..

Could'nt agree more !

I have the old international cub for pulling out firewood and other duties. Got it from an old farmer friend for $500 about 10 years ago. I love that thing! But I love my atv's too. Use whatever works for you and makes you happy with what you use it for and it's all good.

If you have no place to ride, I agree it could be a very expensive toy. I have about 30 acres with woods, hills and thick brush. My ATV cuts the field (drag behind rough cut mower). The mower also allows me to make trails through the brush. A tractor would make wider trails than I can make with the ATV. I have an attachment which also lets me drag the horse ring. A 1500b capacity dump wagon makes lugging firewood and materials easy. A tractor would be overkill for my needs (although I still would like one). It also couldn't get into some of the areas I need to access on my property (Stone walls, steep hills, thick growth). I was surprised at how useful these things can be. The side benefit is that the ATV is also fun to ride. I don't use it as much for "fun" since the novelty wore off, but my kids, nieces, nephews and friends who visit put plenty of hours on it. That's something you don't get with a tractor. It amazes me how much fun they can have driving that thing around. About the only thing where a tractor would beat the ATV - for MY needs - is a loader. However for the limited/infrequent loader needs, it is much more cost effective to rent a bobcat once every few years. YMMV.

I don't believe that personally the trails run all around me and every thaw can see the damage from guys riding before the ground freezes....my bike or quad is no worse....i understand that not all riders treat the land with respect but neither do the snowmobile clubs either....it's just bs in my opinion that sleds get free pass everywhere but yet on a quad your a criminal...

I guess I don't get it. Can we agree on a couple things. Can't use them on State land---Illegal. Can't shoot from them= illegal ( unless you have a special permit for disability). With that said who am I or anyone else to tell a hunter what their experience should be, the amount of effort that should be put in or any other host of "if you don't do it like me you aren't doing it right" comments I see on here every year. Who gives a rats rear end as long as they are within the laws, I say get out there by any means you want, enjoy your time and good luck. Virgil hit in on the head, they are on private land everyone should mind their own damned business. (this was in general and not bashing your comment)

TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!

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