growalot Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 So "a lot of fat on a deer means a hard winter" What have you guys been seeing on your kills? My doe was just layered in fat...every where....Now I know that having new 200 acres of corn in the area this year is probably...most likely the reason ...but fun to speculate..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 lots of fat means there eating well 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Most deer will have quite a bit of fat this time of year regardless of what weather is approaching... it is part of the process of preparing for winter... after hunting season, depending on how much snow and availability of food during the season.. does will have the most fat, bucks a bit less from rutting and breeding. Some buck will literally be almost entirely void of fat from the extensive breeding during which time they will often stop eating all together... this makes some bucks very vulnerable to a harsh winter... as for amount of fat being a prediction of what is to come this winter... let's just say that mother nature doesn't even know what kind of winter it will be until it gets here.. that fatting happens every year... the amount of fat has more to do with availability of food and the amount of competition for those food sources... a doe just 10 miles away might not have nearly the same fat.. because of different conditions.. but that doesn't mean the weather will be different 10 miles away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow nocker Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 if they are laying down under the trees its going to rain.LOL.thats what my gramma used to say about cows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 if they are laying down under the trees its going to rain.LOL.thats what my gramma used to say about cows. That may sound funny but it could be true.. animals can sense changes in barometric pressure and probably have as good a chance at predicting rain coming as any weather man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Barn swallows flying high is a sure sign of rain in next 24 hrs, low ground skimming evpect dry n fair weather. Best one i've ever heard and it seems to work as well..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneHunter Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 A guy can't/won't shave till he gets his Deer ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggamefish Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I can say we are do for a heavy winter. Specially after last years easy one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow nocker Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 a hot summer means a cold winter.Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 the winter will be much more predictable around the first of may 2013 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns&ReligionCop Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 My doe had no fat on her but its still pretty early in the season and its been warm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdswtr Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) if they are laying down under the trees its going to rain.LOL.thats what my gramma used to say about cows. Having 2 farms in the family growing up this phrase might be more common than some think. It was always used around me even to the point of % chance of rain based on number of cows standing and number of them laying down. As I recall it was more accurate than TV. lol. I was at a Amish farm just a week ago and he brought up this winter. Asked me what TV predicitions are. I had to laugh as NOAA says one thing, Farmers almanac says another and half the meterologist are split on the decision. He laughed pretty good over that, anyhow I asked him his thoughts. He says they area all predicting a pretty similar winter to the last one. Said all the natural signs they are seeing are almost identical to last year. He would not give up this Amish secret to what they use for references. Said they are so confident in there predicitions if they are wrong they will have a very cold winter as they put up enough wood do to what they see. If anything I just found it interesting. Edited October 15, 2012 by wdswtr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faihasan Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 this year would be colder than last year. Though deers are storing fat to survive the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampotter Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 A guy can't/won't shave till he gets his Deer ! This is me . I am also a hockey player. Stanley Cup/ big buck, same idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow nocker Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 my grandma used to also say she "could feel it in her bones" if it was going to rain.I used to laugh but a doctor once told me that with arthritis the barametric pressures and weather changes could affect the feelings when there wasn't any pain killers involved. She was like 75* black foot indian.She was serious about that sorts of stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 my grandma used to also say she "could feel it in her bones" if it was going to rain.I used to laugh but a doctor once told me that with arthritis the barametric pressures and weather changes could affect the feelings when there wasn't any pain killers involved.She was like 75* black foot indian.She was serious about that sorts of stuff. Cuz it's true. Most eastern countries still practice rain and bad weather via their bones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 There is a mythical spot below the spine and above the lungs where an arrow can pass thru and do not damage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns&ReligionCop Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I tell you have pins in both of shoulders and I can definitely tell when its going to rain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 My doe had lots of fat on her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faihasan Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 i can sense the rain by the wind, the humidity increases a lot before rain. may be its in south asian blood as well... my grandma used to also say she "could feel it in her bones" if it was going to rain.I used to laugh but a doctor once told me that with arthritis the barametric pressures and weather changes could affect the feelings when there wasn't any pain killers involved. She was like 75* black foot indian.She was serious about that sorts of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jusputtn Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 if they are laying down under the trees its going to rain.LOL.thats what my gramma used to say about cows. Actually, if the cows cluster in tight under a tree there's a good chance that a severe storm is coming in. Trouble is they haven't figured out the relationship between lightening and the tall tree they're clustered under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Couple I have heard, Snow fall will be deep or not so much depending on how high the bees nests are in the trees. I have not seen to much accuracy in this. An apple a day keeps the doctor away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Here's a couple that don't involve the weather.. A badly wounded deer will go to water... A badly wounded deer will not go uphill.... Based on following dozens of blood trails over the last 45 years, I have never seen any indication that either one is true. One thing a wounded deer WILL do is head into thick escape cover, whether it's uphill, downhill or sidehill... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 A swarm of bees in May, is worth a load of hay. A swarm of bees in June, is worth a silver spoon. A swarm of bees in July, ain't worth a fly. So true, relating to honey bees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns&ReligionCop Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Here's a couple that don't involve the weather.. A badly wounded deer will go to water... A badly wounded deer will not go uphill.... Based on following dozens of blood trails over the last 45 years, I have never seen any indication that either one is true. One thing a wounded deer WILL do is head into thick escape cover, whether it's uphill, downhill or sidehill... Wounded anything will get dehydrated. I gut shot a doe 2 years ago found her dead next to a stream with her head in the water downhill from where I shot her. My first buck I got as a kid was a gut shot and he died in a swamp next to a moving stream. My dads Buck last year was a high lung hit that started up hill made a u turn and went down by a stream an died. Pushing swamps rabbit hunting I have found numerous dead deer that had been struck by cars and have had prolonged deaths. I don't believe thats a old wives tail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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