Hunter's Code of Ethics

[fasteddie]

Confusing post to say the least ! 

[bubba]

Now if Eddie is confused, that means it makes no sense, because he is the most sensible guy I know on here..  

[Bowshotmuzzleloader]

A re edit on the original post to clear up things would be nice...

[bluecoupe]

Well, in his defense;  I know a guy who's in his stand an hour pre-dawn at the LATEST. Just his way and makes no difference to me so... eh...

 

300 a day isn't outrageous. 1500/week,  6k/month, 72k/year. A lot of people make a lot more than that in this day and age.

 

I'm certainly no writer so the last thing I do is pee on someones parade for poor writing skills, etc

 

What I do take exception with is the attitude that they should have let their deer potentially spoil because he was already in stand.  Ahhh... sorry... don't think so.

[Rob Answer]

good bye just another forum full of wannabe bowhunters. A bunch of immature children sitting in front of their computer just waiting to pick a part on what somebody has to say. have fun with yourselves you're all a bunch of phonies. Will not waist another minute on this forum.

[bluecoupe]

ah, how mature.  People spank you for being self-centered and egotistical, you don't like it, so rather than think about it and realize you probably were wrong, you're just gonna take your ball and go home.   Seems like you still have some growing up to do. 

[nycredneck]

Relax Rob, just a couple guys having a laugh, you can't go on an internet forum and not expect to get "spanked" on occasion.

[bubba]

c ya

[Stretcher Guy]

I had part of my last hunt ruined by dirt bikes. Packed up and went scouting for signs/activity in other spots.

 

[TeeBugg]

Had my last hunt ruined by coyotes...i really wish they wouldve known i was hunting and waited til i was back at my truck to come running thru

[waterweasle]

you mean waste right? quit your whining, write something that makes sense, and maybe you'll get comments that aren't guys busting your chops...

[Bowshotmuzzleloader]

2 weeks ago in my stand an hour and a half before sunrise. I see a light coming in through the woods getting closer and closer to me. After an hour of flashing my light at the light coming closer to me, I can see 2 guys. 40 yards away from me, looking at the ground. It was a Wednesday afternoon. I took off of work and there they are. They just ruined my hunt for the day. I said to them, "What are you doing". They said, "Tracking a deer I shot last night". My hunt was over and I just wasted $300. Please, guys. If you see a truck at a hunting location. Wait until at least 10:00 AM. The guy hunting took off from work. You should take off too and wait.

In summary 2 weeks ago, hour and a half before sunrise, flash light waving for a HOUR , on a Wensday afternoon... If the said two guys were out and in the woods a hour and half before sunrise looking for the deer they shot, they sure sound like they did the ethical thing.. Im just wondering how early do you have to check parking spaces to see if anyone is hunting before tracking your deer. If this is still bothering you after 2 weeks ??? Im with Bubba what kind of sandwich ?? Sound like a BS one..

[jjb4900]

there's been a few guys who have taken their ball and went home, they always seem to come back........don't take it too personally.

[NFA-ADK]

Come on Rob, stay with us.  Nothing wrong with posting a complaint.  We all do it.  In so far as public hunting, it can be hard.  Internet forum even more so...  Don't take everything so personal.  Next time offer to help track, it might return great rewards.  If it was a doe I would have stayed and hunted, even a buck.  Put yourself in that persons shoes.  Was it their first deer?  Big buck?  Enjoy their harvest like it was your own and you would have enjoyed it possibly, think about it.  Never give up no matter how bad you think the day is.  Always pack a lunch for a full day you never know what happened if you leave the woods and give up.  Good luck! 

[ncountry]

That's why I try to go to areas no one else goes to. .too far,too steep,too wet,etc... If someone comes through ,oh well..they didn't expect to see anybody either..lol..Loosen up guy, happens when hunting public land. Unless you are hunting a 5 acre piece there is room..

[CuseHunter]

Well look on the bright side, you had two people pushing for you. If they stayed around close to you, I would have just done some spot n stalk or found a new spot to sit it out.

Life is 1% what happens to yo hand 99% how you react to it. You have to make the best of the situation present. Just my $.02

[DROpTINE]

jjb4900 yes u have a great point. tracking a wounded deer and finding it is #1 priority. but if u hunt long island, there are assigned parking spots on state and county land. the hunters knew i was in the woods because my truck was parked in a DEC parking area. if its not raining, just give the guy hunting a little time in the woods without someone blowing the deer out into the next town. and yes, the deer was found and there was a big loud celebration.

Just an FYI. On Long Island when hunting public land from October1-November 1 you can be in the woods up to 2 hours before listed sunrise.

After November 1st it is No more than 1 hour before sunrise. If your in an hour and half before sunrise and DEC catches you they will kick you out of the woods and possibly fine you.

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[Elmo]

If I was hunting and two guys came to my spot trying to recover their deer, you know what I would do?  I would try and help them find their deer.  Partake in the enjoyment of a successful harvest, meet some hunters, and the sooner we find their deer, the sooner I can get back to hunting.

[growalot]

Kind of a sad post...I would have offered to help track....then been glad it they had gutted and dragged not too far away...can't tell you how many times I ''ve had deer come into a gut pile and track my drag....heck I had deer prints right to the house when I dragged my doe in a sled.....buck gut piles with huge deer prints and fresh rubs next to them....Alas never mind though...I'm just  a wanna be poser bow hunter.....Lol

 

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Edited December 5, 2013 by growalot

[landtracdeerhunter]

Tough crowd!    

[mike rossi]

Its not everyday that someone tracks a deer were you are hunting and I would just write that hunt off as a loss. But there are other scenarios that are "the same but different".

 

Taking off time from work, paid or unpaid is one thing. But there is also other "investments" in a hunt besides time and money. Then hunting has both legal restrictions on when & where you can hunt and then the weather man adds in other constraints.

 

Not all public land is created equal. On federal conservation lands and on state conservation lands which have ever received federal conservation funds there is a policy regarding Priority Public Uses. Hunting is one of those. So is bird watching, by the way. If I get to a duck hole and a bird watcher is there first, then I would go to plan B. They should do the same in the vice versa. (Operant word is "should". I am making no suggestion that this is any law - it is about ethics, safety, and courtesy- the things some of our parents taught us, that essentially mean the world does NOT revolve around you... ) In the first place if I arrive and see a vehicle parked there, depending on what I know about the land, the ethical decision might begin right in the parking area. Not only do some people not care less that someone is there first, some will actually seek out others: 1) in hopes of being in a good spot 2) to socialize or curiosity 3) to harass. What about non priority users? Some non priority uses are legal but some are not legal - good luck getting any of that enforced and if you got the gun and eat meat the situation can easily get convoluted. Don't confront but take film them. If the cops  wont earn there donuts just put it on you tube and make a fool out of the slobs.

 

The amount of preparation that can go into one duck hunt is huge. We have constraints of the law, including firearm discharge, the birds activity within the legal season, the weather, ice, water level, flow speed, wind direction, wind speed, cover, habitat where the birds go, access with equipment, crop harvest... Complex planning and lugging equipment over rough terrain at 3 am can be destroyed because a couple of grown adults want to decide to take their dogs for a romp at 8am at a wma and with 15 parking areas choose the only one occupied with a truck because they see a dog box and dog tracks in the snow. So what ELSE is wrong with that picture? They are not hunting, not licensed to hunt, yet their dogs are loose in the cover. That is both a wildlife impact and from my understanding not legal. It is a non priority user interfering with a priory user who got there first. What else? Large unneutered, untrained dogs approaching a rig. Hunters have a dog as well and that dog thinks those decoys belong to his family. Wild waterfowl are wary, but it wouldn't be a first if birds lite into the spread when people and dogs are moving. If the hunters shoot will the metrosexual's dog bolt off into the countryside? Will it try to steal the retrieve from the hunters' dog? Too many contingencies, eh?

 

Nobody can own, nobody- enough land to hunt waterfowl - they fly, they migrate, and they are habitat specialists unlike whitetails or even turkeys. If your a waterfowler you are using other peoples land and /or public land, public, navigatible water. The public land conundrum is a combination of ignorance, spite, and just plain selfishness. Education is for the ignorant and law enforcement is for the other two... Natural resource agencies, including the DEC and FWS have been very active in promoting public lands, including conservation lands to the public at large in recent years. To the extent in my opinion, that has violated their mandate to prevent public overuse. They have not developed an education strategy to keep up with the new faces on public land and they have ALSO not stressed this enough with sportsmen and it shows in the increased  number of slob hunters. This needs to be addressed more seriously and soon as it can spiral out of control in a hurry...

[Rob Answer]

2 weeks ago in my stand an hour and a half before sunrise. I see a light coming in through the woods getting closer and closer to me. After an hour of flashing my light at the light coming closer to me, I can see 2 guys. 40 yards away from me, looking at the ground. It was a Wednesday afternoon. I took off of work and there they are. They just ruined my hunt for the day. I said to them, "What are you doing". They said, "Tracking a deer I shot last night". My hunt was over and I just wasted $300. Please, guys. If you see a truck at a hunting location. Wait until at least 10:00 AM. The guy hunting took off from work. You should take off too and wait.

 

[Rob Answer]

 

Edited December 5, 2013 by Rob Answer

[bubba]

I knew you would be back to try to justify it again.  No matter how many times you post it, it still is very confusing.  Honestly makes no sense other than you want public land to yourself.  Or you are a baiter

[bubba]

Honestly if this post is for real, and I have my doubts, I think you need to look up the hunters code of ethics.  Your view is quite well lets say unique.  If you really think that the ethical thing that a hunter who wounded a deer and is tracking it is stay out of the woods because your truck is there, well that honestly is about the most selfish as I ever heard.  I wonder if the roles were reversed if you would stay out and not ruin a hunt for someone.  Then it would be too bad because you were tracking a deer.  Since when did getting to public land first make it yours for the day?  In conclusion I still want to know what kind of sandwich you took with you.