Anyone have a problem with this post.

[Five Seasons]

I'm not apposed to this if shared within hunters. It's when these kind of pics get out that it hurts us. It's not my personal style. I'm not even a big fan of dead deer shots. I like the hunter with at least an attempt to cover the blood and guts. We've even gone as far as brushing the deer down quick and washing any blood off the horns, sticking the tongue back in.

 

I think the worst part of this pic is the size of the deer...

[bluecoupe]

I just about replied on the first page but read through all the replies first.

 

"Its not the Anti's we should be concerned with, its the one's that are indifferent that something like this could get to and cause damage."

 

you sir have hit the nail squarely on the head!  we know that trying to change the anti hunters mind is not going to happen while we certainly need to keep awareness of the anti hunters because like it or not the numbers between the anti's and hunters are growing closer together. We as hunters are aging, the recruitment of young and upcoming hunters to replace those of us that are aging is FAR less than it was even as recent as 20 years ago.  When the anti's numbers exceed ours we as hunters will be in trouble! not you personally but hunters in general need to remember that fact, and not sure if we will see it our lifetime but I am quite sure my grandkids will certainly have an uphill battle on their hands to keeping the hunting future alive and well.

 

now about your statement about the indifferent people,,, THIS is where a lot of hunters miss the boat entirely. during my short stint of living in new hampshire I was a huge opponent to the visible while transporting law they had there. basically it was when you were transporting a deer or bear it had to be visible outside the vehicle ( so you couldn't put it in the trunk and close the lid or in the bed of your truck and close the tailgate.)  My biggest issue was not everyone is a hunter, you have 3 groups. anti's, hunters and those setting on the fence of not being a hunter nor an anti hunter but have them setting at a traffic light and pull up behind a vehicle and be staring at the bloody body cavity of a deer or bear and you might have them move over to the anti hunting side.

 

When I was teaching hunter safety in NH. we talked about care of your animals you shot. I was pretty frank with people about my displeasure of public display of animals. I have been a hunter my whole life and fully understand and lived the meat pole years at camp, but unfortunately times have changed, while still in areas the outside poles are fine as they are not in general public view it irritates me to drive through town and see deer hanging in plain view of the road, Not that we have anything to hide but be respectful to the animal ( you did take its life afterall ) but more importantly be respectful to the public and more importantly don't ever forget about those folks that are setting on the fence.

 

There is an old saying "actions speak louder than words"  how we as individuals act and converse in the course of our hunting endeavors whether right or wrong reflects on ALL of our brother and sister hunters.  Sometimes we can be our own worst enemy unfortunately. 

 

Kind of a better worded of my post in #11

 

[Culvercreek hunt club]

 

 

I think the worst part of this pic is the size of the deer...

Why? Have you seen the NY totals for estimated fawn takes? The guy got a double. Good for him if he is happy. I agree on the blood but the title is the show stopper for me. Unless he plays the banjo and then I totally see thee point he was making

[Five Seasons]

There's not enough vulgar blood lust in video games graphic novels and such?.

 

i chuckled a little bit at thinking any kid these days is reading novels

 

 

oh and where is Shawn's pic of 3 of 4 headshot doe stacked in a pile? that fits right in here.

[ants]

The caption defines the whole post...Just another childish loser. What can you do????

Edited December 18, 2013 by ants

[Five Seasons]

Why? Have you seen the NY totals for estimated fawn takes? The guy got a double. Good for him if he is happy. I agree on the blood but the title is the show stopper for me. Unless he plays the banjo and then I totally see thee point he was making

 

what i meant is in terms of what Doe said regarding how the image comes across to someone who is indifferent to the sport. Sure, there is the fact that people don't want to hit a deer with their car and don't want deer to eat their shrubs, but also don't want to see the deer killed (we all know them, happy when it's out of sight and mind).

 

I get that, but shooting a fawn and then placing it next to another deer to give the size reference is tough. A dead fawn by itself is something I probably don't even take a picture of at all.

[HuntOrBeHunted]

The bottom line is its legal to do what he did.

 

Now would I post that picture.. No.  Would I shoot that baby deer.. No.

 

The words he posted with the picture has got to be the point that makes him look like a @$$.

[nyantler]

Like always a tasteless pic and statement like this shows up without the idiot having the b@lls to show his mug in the pic with the deer... tells me that he knew it was tasteless and didn't much care and certainly didn't want any real hunters to know who was behind the classless statement. I'll bet you he was puffing his chest pretty good in front of his also idiot buddies who, I'm sure, thought it was funnier than hell. What's really bothersome is it might have been an adult or even a father and not a young kid that did it...

Edited December 18, 2013 by nyantler

[Doc]

What the heck is the point? What is going through a guy's head that makes him think that sort of thing is acceptable or funny. Like any group of individuals, we do have our share of strange personalities. And like it or not, these kinds of shock pictures with asinine comments attached do reflect on us all. It's just irresponsible, totally unnecessary and acts to make hunters and hunting look pretty ugly.

[ants]

I kind of hope that this was a 15 year old kid that posted this, because at least there is still hope for him

[wooly]

I took this pic 2 days ago. I need somebody to play along...there is a point to this.

Anyone wanna guess what this pic has in common with the one in the original post?

 

[BizCT]

Enough about this clown. On to the real topic here, the elusive Mother/Daughter combo. Has anyone done it?  I never have, but I have had 2 different pairs of sisters, none at the same time though.

[bubba]

I jumped in late but here goes.  This photo does not effect anti-hunters.  They have already made up their minds.  it does effect the people who are neutral about hunting.  They could care less if people hunt or not.  However these type of photos will effect how the neutral people think about hunting.  We can not afford to have any more people jump to the anti side. 

[DROpTINE]

A Hunter is never going to be convinced into becoming and ANTI-hunter.

An ANTI-Hunter is never going to become a hunter or support hunting.

The picture looks bad on the sport, not all hunters. Pictures like these (this one not as bad as others) remind me of pictures of the Buffalo shot and killed for their hides with their bodies left to rot hundreds of years ago.

My problem lies with the disrespect of the animal.

I don't like this picture, I don't like the caption...that's my opinion. But to disrespect an animal I/we love to pursue is asinine. If you ask me, they are not true hunters.

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[ATbuckhunter]

Nothing wrong with the picture but the guy making the comment is an idiot. 

[132 eight pointer]

I took this pic 2 days ago. I need somebody to play along...there is a point to this.

Anyone wanna guess what this pic has in common with the one in the original post?

 

I'll make a guess.Is that two different birds ?

[wooly]

I'll make a guess.Is that two different birds ?

 

I found that jay laying face down in the snow frozen solid.

It was just as dead as the deer in the original post and it looked it. 

Apparently the fool took just as much time as I did to make his pic appropriately offensive and appauling as I did to showcase the beauty that even a dead animal holds.

I understand not everyone is as anal about photos as myself, but to deliberately try to make your field photos look like shit is something I'll never understand.

[greybeard]

Culver, I hope that you are correct, however I see it differently . That's life, isn't it.

 

I am curious, what is the age of the average hunter in NY ?

 

 I guess what I should have written was, if hunters decrease in numbers then  there will be less money in the till. If our money isn't there, they'll get it another way... You know, like more traffic cameras.

 

One small  example.. Fishermen pay for a special permit for some area beaches here. Some said that we support them and the State needs our money. Now others pay fees for their passions also.. Metal detectors, and I recently heard that there is now a fee for star gazers. So fishermen are not the only money generators for that area anymore.

 

I just don't think that we should ever become so secure in our beliefs, to think, that we, as hunters, are a never ending breed. I believe that we need to project an image as intelligent  and skilled sportsmen to attract and keep new hunters.

 

 In conclusion, as I wrote above, I know that non hunters read hunting sites. Also, look at the comments on hunting shows on youtube by antis.So I believe that we should be mindful of that and act and post accordingly.

 

Time will tell, as they say.

 

 

 

 

[132 eight pointer]

You fooled me Wooly,I wouldn't have guessed that bird was dead.

[Doc]

Ok, forget that stupid caption. How about the picture itself? I don't think there is anything wrong with taking a few minutes to clean things up and make the picture just a bit more artistic and presentable. However, I do have to admit to having taken a few careless pictures over the years that weren't exactly posed in the most tasteful situation. My bad! But a major difference is that I do not publicly post those pictures and actually no one other than myself ever gets to see those pictures. As much as I may prize the kill, if the picture does not reflect that pride of accomplishment, it isn't worth showing.

[DROpTINE]

Ok, forget that stupid caption. How about the picture itself? I don't think there is anything wrong with taking a few minutes to clean things up and make the picture just a bit more artistic and presentable. However, I do have to admit to having taken a few careless pictures over the years that weren't exactly posed in the most tasteful situation. My bad! But a major difference is that I do not publicly post those pictures and actually no one other than myself ever gets to see those pictures. As much as I may prize the kill, if the picture does not reflect that pride of accomplishment, it isn't worth showing.

Well said Doc

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[CuseHunter]

I think the caption is inappropriate to be posted on the internet as everyone can see it and it is a permanent fixture attached to the photo for all to see. I could see someone saying such a comment to a buddy after the day of hunting but now posting it online.

Yet if you think this is bad... You should see all the stuff posted on Facebook and twitter by people, I'm often speechless to the things people say and post.

[Elmo]

Great photo, wooly.  I was wondering why it's talons wasn't fully grasping the branch.

Edited December 18, 2013 by Elmo

[tj1187]

Would you show this photo to your wife, girlfriend? What would her comment ,reaction be?

[BizCT]

Enough about this clown. On to the real topic here, the elusive Mother/Daughter combo. Has anyone done it? I never have, but I have had 2 different pairs of sisters, none at the same time though.

Buehler?

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