MACHINIST Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) OK.I shoot a low range model charles daily 3.5 inch pump.The 3.5 inches are a killer on both ends and I want to keep shooting them.This will be for turkey and coyotes/fox mainly.What gun would you go with thats a nicer model and preferably auto but I wont rule out pumps.I know that the pumps kick the sheet out of me and I am done with it.I was at Beikirch's today and fell in love with the new Browning A5 but I am having a tough time justifying 1400+ for the model I want.So what do you suggest?? Edited April 19, 2014 by MACHINIST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgil Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I have the Benelli SBE2 and love it. Got it used at Cabelas in PA. They have loads of used guns. You might find a bargain there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 i have a mossberg 835, kill turkeys with plain lead out to 55 yards...ofm green camo.. my favorite turkey gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) If you want a semi, My choice would be either the Mossberg 935 or the Rem versa max. I had a 935, great turkey gun that shot unbelievable patterns, and was 100% reliable with 3 1/2" and 3" loads. Friends of mine have the Versa Max and report the same results. I currently use the Mossberg 835, that I have used since around 1993. It also has the original green woodland camo pattern. I use 3 1/2 inchers out of it…. . Bad Ass turkey rig. Edited April 20, 2014 by ants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Yup I had a 835 and it was a good gun but I could never get it to pattern as well as my other guns.My friends 835 is the same way.My BIL's can punch a solid hole at 30 yards with some ammo and patterns good at over 50 easy.So I know its just the gun.I dont want to get a lemon though.I think I will keep the old trusty and get a new/used one and see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) SBE for me. Ya don't need no stinking camo!! Edited April 20, 2014 by Lawdwaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 SBE for me. Ya don't need no stinking camo!! Then whats with that stink'n jacket??? LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Old skool camo is kick azz!!!!LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGroundhog Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 The Sbe2 is a nice gun and I would have went with that if the price tag wasn't 1700... I liked the a5 and the maxus as well. I ended up going with the maxus which is a great gun and It fit me well. Gas guns will reduce the overall felt recoil (some may disagree). I ordered mine off line and got it ffl transferred for 25 bucks. I think that's the best route to go (others may disagree) but you do not end up paying 100 plus dollars in tax and the higher price from retail stores/shops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) Damn, ya got me on THAT! It is a vest though, not a jacket. How do you like that camo pattern? IIRC I bought that in 1982. You wouldn't believe the miles on it and the birds that have ridden out in it. Each year I have to re-sew strap or pocket for fear of a complete blow out. It was designed by the late great Dick Kirby and made by Duxbak. I tried to replace it about 10 years ago and couldn't find what I liked so I keep on sewing.......... Edited April 20, 2014 by Lawdwaz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 I will be buying used I think to try and save a few $100 bucks.The A5 was simply a perfect fit for me so I may wait a year and see if I cant find one for a good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I don't know anything about the new A5's, but the old ones are not shoulder friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo711 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I will be buying used I think to try and save a few $100 bucks.The A5 was simply a perfect fit for me so I may wait a year and see if I cant find one for a good deal. I've got 2 browning a5's. A 12 gauge and a sweet sixteen. I could shoot those guns all day long. Awesome guns. My 11 year old loves the a5 12 gauge for shooting trap. I started him on an 870 pump but once he shot that A5 he didn't want to shoot anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 I have my grandfathers old A5 and its been all redone so I can't justify to take it as a primary shotgun.I usually take it out with me on a hunt every once in a while to hunt with grampa but its been a while.Thats one reason I am leaning towards the A5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) Damn, ya got me on THAT! It is a vest though, not a jacket. How do you like that camo pattern? IIRC I bought that in 1982. You wouldn't believe the miles on it and the birds that have ridden out in it. Each year I have to re-sew strap or pocket for fear of a complete blow out. It was designed by the late great Dick Kirby and made by Duxbak. I tried to replace it about 10 years ago and couldn't find what I liked so I keep on sewing.......... I literally wore one of those Dick Kirby Grand Slam vests out. I got tired of sewing..When the fabric wore through on the back side of the shell loops I gave up..I truly loved that vest, and it traveled lots of miles on my back in the days when I used to hunt gobblers in several states each spring. I bought a replacement from Bucklick Creek about 12 years ago...I don't like it NEARLY as well as I liked the old Kirby vest..<<sigh>>.... Edited April 20, 2014 by Pygmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I have my grandfathers old A5 and its been all redone so I can't justify to take it as a primary shotgun.I usually take it out with me on a hunt every once in a while to hunt with grampa but its been a while.Thats one reason I am leaning towards the A5. Save your pennies and get what you want. A Browning is NEVER a bad investment. Quality firearms..My first 3 inch mag 12 was a Browning A-5.. I wish I had never sold it. Killed a lot of ducks, geese and turkeys with that shotgun. I bought it used, shot the hell out of it and sold it several years later for more than I paid for it. I still have a couple of Brownings, an A-5 Light Twenty and a Citori 12 gauge. They would be among the last of my guns that I would part with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I didn't want to spend the money a good auto so I got a good pump with reduced recoil. I ended up with a Benelli Supernova in advantage timber. it has the comfortech stock. I've shot stuff like Remington 1100 and a few other autos and recoil is equal or slightly less. a good stock and pad turn the kick into more of a push and soften it up a bit. despite many autos are dependable some have quirks, and I know the pump will always cycle. I know some with A5, 935's, and some others. Most by far I know have Benelli Super Black Eagle II's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY Bowhunter Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I love my Browning BPS 3.5"/ 26" barrel fitted with a Pure Gold .670 choke. Here's today pattern @ 30 yds with 3.5" Hevi-13 #7's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Awesome pattern.. However, at 30 yards, most 2 3/4" 12 gauge guns with a modified choke and #6 shot will kill a gobbler just as dead. I have never felt the need to take the punishment of 3.5" loads (especially in a fixed breech gun). 3 inch loads in a gas auto are plenty for this old fart.. They kill turkeys at 40-45 yards, and that's as far as I feel the need to shoot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 What I like about the Mossgerg 935 and 835 (and a lot of other 3 1/2" guns) is that you can run 2 3/4 or 3" shells through it too. My 835 patterns great with all 3 but the 3 1/2" with 2 1/4 oz loads of #5 out perform the rest past 35 yards. Its all about you and what you feel comfortable with. Hell… I killed a good number of toms with my old 870 and 2 3/4" Turkey loads using just the factory full choke. The first turkey I killed was with the 870 and a high brass #6 pheasant load. Maybe 25 yards. POOOFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Nicky Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Any gun with that shoots 3 1/2" shells is going to wail you. I kinda enjoy shooting a gun/shell that I know will thump the bird just as hard as it thumps me. Just my $.02, but why not invest in a good recoil pad, and keep your current setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Because I want to get back into a semi.I bought my first 3 1/2 inch pump gun to test the waters so to speak.My first was a 835 and I couldn't get that to pattern to good,then I happened on the charles daily in a trade and its been a good gun.It has a good recoil pad on it now also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Because I want to get back into a semi.I bought my first 3 1/2 inch pump gun to test the waters so to speak.My first was a 835 and I couldn't get that to pattern to good,then I happened on the charles daily in a trade and its been a good gun.It has a good recoil pad on it now also. buddy had the same issue with his 835 and he tried a half dozen chokes and loads. The thing shot patterns like a donut. He was convinced it had such a high charge it was blowing the center of the pattern out. I don't know what caused it but I saw the patterns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 the mossberg 835 is essentially a 10 gauge so it really absorbs the kick a lot better. I put a limbsaver recoil pad on it, and it's not horrible for 3.5" shells. It's a cheaper gun as well, but I have no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Machinist Why not get the Stoeger 3500 if you want a semi - you know they are good guns already from experience and reasonably priced. Might not be as nice as the A5, but less than 1/2 the price. I would have bought one if I didn't find the win sxp for a reasonable price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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