I won Doe Estrus, now what?

[nycredneck]

I never used scents much over the years, maybe a couple times and with no success. So I won a bottle of Doe Estrus and I guess I can use it on a drag walking in to my stand then hang it under my stand. I would do this around the peak of the rut, Nov 7-21 I guess? Am I doing it right?

[PREDATE]

I start a using estrus a little earlier to simulate the first hot doe. It drives the young bucks mad, but could entice mature bucks as well. I'm a believer in a 100-120yd scent drag. Does will follow the trail too.

[Renegade Hunter]

Yes use it on a drag line. I spray a generous amount on the cotton piece. I also like to spray some on the bottom of my boots. Have had some good success with younger bucks following it right in, nose on the ground. I also like to use it a little early.  

[sweet old bill]

best time is the last week of Oct and first week of Nov....I look for buck scrapes and then put a few drops on the scrape. I then walk off and put a drop on a q-tip and walk some more and put another drop on a q tip....I have it so the q tips will have the buck walk pst the ground blind I have made....it has worked several times for me...remember a drop or two goes a long way to get that buck ....

[Doc]

So, how fresh is this stuff? I mean even the ranch deer are not in estrous yet are they? Do they have some way of bringing does into estrous on demand? But it seems to me that the doe in estrous scent has to be something that was gathered almost a year ago. Does that make it still convincing to the deer? Or is this another case of a product that we buy, "just in case" it might work. I ask simply because I really don't know.

[nycredneck]

The maker claims that his does are indoors in artificial light so the come into heat sooner. I have no idea but thats what he said. I would hate to ruin a spot, but I don't think that will happen. So earlier is better, I will try it on a drag and see what happens.

[Doc]

The maker claims that his does are indoors in artificial light so the come into heat sooner. I have no idea but thats what he said. I would hate to ruin a spot, but I don't think that will happen. So earlier is better, I will try it on a drag and see what happens.

I could see that working. All that breeding stuff is based on photo-periodism ... right?

[Kot2B]

I've used it a little too soon and I've had a mature doe stomp and wheeze at the smell. Nothing scares off the deer faster than an old crotchety pissed off doe.

[Hock3y24]

I'd wait till around nov 1, let them get fired up first

[nycredneck]

I have shot bucks I called in by tickling antlers together in late Oct and one came to a can call Nov 15. I won't tell you how many times I tried those things and they did not work. lol

[growalot]

be careful using drags as you get closer to the rut and walking in under cover of darkness...being charged in the isn't fun....

[ants]

Start to use it towards the end of October. Don't over do it. Just a couple scent wicks out in front of my stand has worked well. I almost always use Tinks 69 but I have had luck with Code Blue estrus doe pee. Buy whats on sale I guess. 

[wooly]

be careful using drags as you get closer to the rut and walking in under cover of darkness...being charged in the isn't fun....

 

I'd probably laugh at you Grow if it hadn't happened to me too.

No drag rags, just an accidental spillage of deer piss on my hunting duds the day before while filling my scent canisters..

The next day on my hike in, I had a little 3pt that decided we were going to have a "bull fight" before the sun came up when I spotted his glowing eyes in my headlamp at a scrape near my blind,lol

I'm pretty sure it was buck piss if memory serves me correct.

We both got a little bloody from that pre dawn encounter, but fortunately neither of us were seriously injured.

[NFA-ADK]

OMG Wooly LOL!  That is too funny! 

 

I usually just spray myself with any extra scent.  Arm pits, back pack boots, lol.  I have never had one charge me, yet...  I don't use them for the most part. 

[Doc]

Yeah a little dab behind each ear and you're ready to go.

[Paula]

Funny!

[Nomad]

The first thing you do is take off the cap and have your wife come over and sniff the bottle....

[fasteddie]

I have always been leary about using the Doe Estrus too soon in the season but according to the posts , it sounds like it works for some .

[Paula]

Nice, how was it won?

Edited October 5, 2014 by Paula

[Paula]

I am sure you could donate for the deer challenge they have.

Plus there is a member who give something to youth hunter for turkey.

[fu2lmao]

spray some on someone you dislike and invite them on a hike

[Paula]

Message wnybuckhunter, he is charge of the deer challenge.

Letinmfly does the youth hunts separate from this sight.

Edited October 5, 2014 by Paula

[Four Season Whitetail's]

I have always been leary about using the Doe Estrus too soon in the season but according to the posts , it sounds like it works for some .

It will work for some but 99.9% of the time this early it will be the little guys and you will educate the mature bucks. They know when the time is right. If any buck will work then dont be afraid to give some FRESH scent a try.

[Four Season Whitetail's]

I agree it will work but I don't believe it educates deer... Human scent educates deer...

Once the hormones kick in even big boys make mistakes

So do you think if a mature buck smells fresh doe in heat ln the middle of summer he would come a runnin?  Mature bucks know when its time and when the does are REALLY ready to breed, not just smell nice, I mean breed. I see it live and in person on a yearly basis. Mature bucks laying there chewing their cud while the little guys with their..Stecter Picking Out chase the doe around looking for action.

[Four Season Whitetail's]

As you and I both know we are not in the middle of summer.....

Also once a buck sheds their velvet the hormones already start building as the amount of available daylight decreases...

That's why a buck rubs his antlers and starts scraping....to leave their scent mark on those trees and dirt....That's rutting behavior....would you agree?

I'm not saying all bucks will come to estrous scent at anytime...

I'm saying as a bucks hormone level builds they will absolutely become restless.

Does are not ready to breed during pre rut chase phase BUT the bucks are! Right?

If bucks never come to estrous doe scent then why do so many get killed on highways and by hunters BEFORE doe are ready to breed?

Because BUCKS are ready! They can and will breed a ready doe

Agreed but a mature buck will very rarely chase a doe. When a buck matures he knows when the does are READY to breed. It comes with age. I ride down the thruway ad see 10-12 dead bucks from Syracuse to Rochester during my rut trip down to my farm and 95% of those bucks are little baby bucks,hence the chase phase. Not to often you see mature bucks splattered because they know when its time and they lock down a doe in places like the bottom of Letchworth state park or the thickest,nastiest part of their area and spends a couple days having a ball. Its tough to fool a mature buck with scent and if its not fresh and if the pheromones are not there,neither will most mature bucks. The urine is an attractant but the pheromones tell the true story.