DeerDuck Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Onieida, Wisconsin. - a dispute over a 9 point buck shot in Wisconsin was settled with a coin toss. Kameron Jorgenson, 11, wounded the deer and neighbor Randy Heyerman finished it off on his property, Kameron's father said. With the hunters deadlocked over who could keep it, they flipped a coin and Heyerman won. I'm glad to see that these 2 young sportsman could act like gentleman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greensider Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 in ny it has all ways been considered the first fatal shot thats how i have and will decide who gets it you really can not control how far a deer runs even with a great shot i have chot deer and blown the heart open and seen them go 100 yards up a mountain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skully Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 There should have been no coin flip. If the first shot would have killed the deer then it is there deer........ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Actually 2 of my buddies did the same thing about 10 years ago on a big 10 point. One friend shot it, then the buck ran to the other who dropped it in its tracks. The guy who shot first came running up to us , as we were standing over the deer. He was hyperventilating and saying "I got him! I got him!" (he had never got such a nice buck.) The guy who dropped the deer had, at that time, some nice deer on the wall already and decided to flip over it. He lost and graciously gave up the buck. I can still hear his brother yelling "Bull $hit!! your nuts Bill!!! Bull $hit.!!! he was so pissed but it was funny. Edited November 27, 2014 by ants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 First fatal shot in our group always gets the deer.Now if a deer crosses 2 hunters and the first gut shoots,ass shot or anything like that then the next hunter is in line.I applaud the 2 hunters to settle it with a coin toss but I would want more info before I made a decision on who's deer I think it was 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncountry Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Reminds me of the time I shot a 7 point during a drive . It ran 50yds or so . My buddy , pulls and bam !!! floors him. At least that is what he thought..... If it wasn't for the blood trail from where I shot and the lack of a second hole, he would have liked to have claimed that deer... ha.. We had a debate for a few minutes until we were able to pick up the blood trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Just dug out my double headed quarter. Remind me to call heads or it don't work : ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 nope, never work in NY because the two neighbor's would more than likely not be on talking terms and would deny the other the right to come on the property and retrieve the deer..........end of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I am with the first fatal shot crowd. That's what makes the most sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeerDuck Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 At first I thought it was a kid and an adult, in which case the kid should have gotten it. I read the article and just thought it they showed some sportsmanship. Sadly, I have followed a blood rta ill on a deer a friend hit, only to come upon footprints then tire tracks from someone that stole it. Hopefully the other kid gets a nice deer this season also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) So how would this play out in your minds? Two are hunting both young family members. A deer comes out in front of the young lad and he gut/liver shoots it. It runs the length of a corn field to another member a he drops it. Who tags the deer? First hunter that put a shot in that would have killed it or the second hunter that dropped it, both same house and deer will be shared with both hunters and the family! Edited November 28, 2014 by Four Season Whitetails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 So how would this play out in your minds? Two are hunting both young family members. A deer comes out in front of the young lad and he gut/liver shoots it. It runs the length of a corn field to another member a he drops it. Who tags the deer? First hunter that put a shot in that would have killed it or the second hunter that dropped it, both same house and deer will be shared with both hunters and the family! Deer should go to the youngster. IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 An 11 year ild kid!!!! The buck was his in my opinion! Hope the older guy chokes on it. Now if it was two adults, the first fatal shot, a finishing doesn't count! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greensider Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 as stated first fatal shot that would be heart lung liver i would not consider a gut shot a deer could take a day or more to die from that hit and i hope if you are an older hunter and have taken many deer you would let a young hunter have the deer after making sure he knew you were in the right to keep it so he would learn what is right and learn a lesson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northsox65 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 If a deer is running through the woods and I shoot it and drop it, its MY deer, there will be no coins to toss or hard luck stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Kids father agreed to the coin toss for a deer his kid made a non fatal leg shot on. Then he started whining when he lost. Bad example to his kid on more then 1 level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Sunday buddy shot a basket rack. Its tail was partially shot off and had been shot in the arse prior too. Gangrene and a waste. Nephew shot a 3 legged doe yesterday that someone else had shot prior. Brother put down a basket rack that was gut shot for another hunter that had tracked it for 600 yards. Cmon hunters, make the shot count.....jeesh. i've never shot more than once and this year toting my ML as my primary gun. One shot,one kill. Coyotes are getting a lot of free meals from what I'm seeing and hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 It really is a no dispute case if the person that had the second dropping shot managed to tag the deer before the first shooter arrives...In NYS it the person who has a tag on it period. That said...if both shots could be kill shots and between and adult and a kid...Kid would get it...with an explaination of sportsmanship .... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I wouldn't even want a deer someone else had fatally wounded. Yes, in NYS the first one to take the deer into possession (tag it) owns it. However, unless you are starving, what's the point? You didn't accomplish anything that wasn't inevitable. A gut shot or otherwise wounded deer is different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFA-ADK Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Fatal shot determines possession, but if I finished off a kids deer then he would get it with the sportsmanship explanation. I can't say I have many trophies on the wall but helping a young hunter enjoy the sport would be enough reward for me. Meet a kid today who is in his second year of hunting and he shot a really nice 9 pt from the ground with his bow. That really gets me pumped! Love seeing the enthusiasm and joy! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Two seasons ago, i was hunting new property and the neighbor shot a nice 8 pnt that couldnt have been 50 yatds behind my stand. The damn deer came crawling past me dragging his ars on the ground bawling the hole time. I shot it and heard "WO". Got to the dear and it was a real thick boned 8. It had been hit high in the hip with bad spinal damage from the first shot. There was no discussion who was taking the dear i didnt want it. It would have blead to death but i couldnt stand the noise it was making. I guess my point is... It was an eventual fatal shot but the worst one ive ever seen. Edited November 28, 2014 by WingNut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) First good fatal shot in our group. I remember one opener morn on state I was in a tree above a swamp. After a while I hear bang bang bang bang down in front of me in the swamp. I see deer coming do get ready. Hear come a doe trying to run on 3 legs, one back leg half shot off. I pull up and drop her at 50. Then I see another coming right to me. A fawn at 30 yards gutshot. I pull up and drop that one. Back then it was one doe tag max but it was not a choice I hesitated with. After a bit here come some Elmer following blood trail and gets to me. I ask him how many deer was he shooting at? Says dunno. I was around 25 maybe he had to be 20 years older anyway. I gave him a bunch a shit for spraying poorly aimed billets all over and shooting 2 deer and bad at that. Told him the doe was mine have fun with the gut shot fawn over there. Edited November 29, 2014 by Fletch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 A few years back my brother in law and I were headed down a creek bed in ML and jumped up a 7 pointer. We both pull up and shoot. We get to the deer and look it over and one entry and one exit. We still have no idea who hit it. We split all the deer we get anyway and I have a lot more years and deers so he tagged it. That was another previously wounded one as well had its lower jaw shot was real thin and wouldn't of made it much longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I wouldn't be so quick to jump to the defense of the kid.....we really don't know the full story. If he made a lousy shot then I can't really say that he should get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeerDuck Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 ONEIDA, Wis. — A dispute over a nine-point buck in Wisconsin was settled with a coin flip. Wisconsin's deer season was just a couple hours old on Saturday when D.J. Jorgenson says his 11-year-old son, Kameron, wounded the buck in the town of Oneida. "Deer hit the ground, and it came back up, and took off running," Jorgenson said. The father and son then tracked the animal through the woods to a neighbor's property, Jorgenson told WLUK-TV (http://bit.ly/1uGWtCm ). Before they could get to it, neighbor Randy Heyrman shot the buck twice from his deer stand to finish it off. With the deer dead and the hunters deadlocked over who could keep it, they flipped a coin. "So I dug in my pocket. I grabbed out a quarter. (Heryman) did the coin flip. My boy called tails, and it was heads. And (Heryman) said, 'Well, it looks like it's my deer then,'" Jorgenson said. All Kameron got was a photo. Hunters need permission to follow a deer onto private property, and the landowner has a right to take the deer, according to Shad Webster of the Oneida Conservation Department. Even though Heyrman legally had a right to keep the deer, he said the coin flip was a fair way to settle the dispute. But Jorgenson disagrees. "I wish he would have done the right thing to begin with. All my son wants is his deer that he shot," he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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