Looks like there may just be statewide Antler Restricts.

[First-light]

Why play games?

don't get it???

[wooly]

Sooooo.... a Pollock came home one day from work, hung up his coat, took off his hat and walked into his bedroom shouting "honey I'm home!"

 

What should he see but his best friend in bed with his  wife.

 

Infuriated, he rushed to the cupboard, pulled out his gun  and put it to his head.

 

His wife started laughing.

 

"Don't laugh!" he screams. "You're next!"

 

 

 

 

[Lawdwaz]

don't get it???

 

Why play "what if" games? 

 

We already have one of them going on in the thread "no more buck hunting". One is enough.........

[Lawdwaz]

Sooooo.... a Pollock came home one day from work, hung up his coat, took off his hat and walked into his bedroom shouting "honey I'm home!"

 

What should he see but his best friend in bed with his  wife.

 

Infuriated, he rushed to the cupboard, pulled out his gun  and put it to his head.

 

His wife started laughing.

 

"Don't laugh!" he screams. "You're next!"

 

 

I'll probably get put on "double secret probation" for this one..............

 

You've seen all the commercials. But what really happens when

you ask for help with an erection lasting more than 4 hours?

I walked into a drug store and asked to talk to a male pharmacist.

The woman I was speaking with said she was the only pharmacist

and since she and her sister owned the store, there were no male

employees.

She asked if she could help me. I said that I really would have

preferred to speak with a male pharmacist. She assured me that

she was completely professional and whatever it was that I needed

to discuss, I could be confident that she would treat me with a high

level of professionalism.

I reluctantly agreed and began by saying, "As a shy man, this is

tough for me to discuss, but here goes. I get erections every day

that last more than four hours. This condition causes me a lot of

problems and severe embarrassment. I was wondering what you

could give me for it?"

The pharmacist said, "Just a minute, I'll talk to my sister."

When she returned, she said, "We discussed it at length and this

is the absolute best we can do:

* 1/3 ownership in the store,

* a company pickup truck,

* a king size bed and

* $3,000 a month in living expenses."

Edited January 11, 2015 by Lawdwaz

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Why play "what if" games? 

 

We already have one of them going on in the thread "no more buck hunting". One is enough.........

What makes you think that would be a Game?  If they put Ar in place in some parts of the state this very well could be like having no bucks to hunt.  We see you did not reply.

[JoeHunter]

Should be about VENISON, not antler points :/

[nyantler]

Should be about VENISON, not antler points :/

 

Why? Shouldn't it be about conservation? Personally I think it should be about enjoying yourself... whatever the reason.

Edited January 11, 2015 by nyantler

[JoeHunter]

Why? Shouldn't it be about conservation? Personally I think it should be about enjoying yourself... whatever the reason.

Those are fine reasons. I agree, so I will rephrase. "It should be about venison BEFORE antler points."  Something vain about hunting for antlers.

[wooly]

I'll probably get put on "double secret probation" for this one..............

 

You've seen all the commercials. But what really happens when

you ask for help with an erection lasting more than 4 hours?

I walked into a drug store and asked to talk to a male pharmacist.

The woman I was speaking with said she was the only pharmacist

and since she and her sister owned the store, there were no male

employees.

She asked if she could help me. I said that I really would have

preferred to speak with a male pharmacist. She assured me that

she was completely professional and whatever it was that I needed

to discuss, I could be confident that she would treat me with a high

level of professionalism.

I reluctantly agreed and began by saying, "As a shy man, this is

tough for me to discuss, but here goes. I get erections every day

that last more than four hours. This condition causes me a lot of

problems and severe embarrassment. I was wondering what you

could give me for it?"

The pharmacist said, "Just a minute, I'll talk to my sister."

When she returned, she said, "We discussed it at length and this

is the absolute best we can do:

* 1/3 ownership in the store,

* a company pickup truck,

* a king size bed and

* $3,000 a month in living expenses."

 

I'm sure glad someone in this thread has a funny bone!

This is some serious stuff that needs to be sorted out before next season, so I'll leave you all to get back to business without any further interruptions.

[Paula]

Those are fine reasons. I agree, so I will rephrase. "It should be about venison BEFORE antler points."  Something vain about hunting for antlers.

When a person pays for the license and tags they can choose to shoot for meat or points. 

[growalot]

TO Lawds joke....if they are willing to give That much...he had best ask for a bag as well....

[skully]

I see alot of " it should be about venison not antlers"  . If you can not shoot a baby buck anymore and you want venison then go shoot a baby doe.  Whats the problem?

[Culvercreek hunt club]

I see alot of " it should be about venison not antlers" . If you can not shoot a baby buck anymore and you want venison then go shoot a baby doe. Whats the problem?

What about the areas that have no or very limited do tags?

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Those are fine reasons. I agree, so I will rephrase. "It should be about venison BEFORE antler points." Something vain about hunting for antlers.

Wouldn't a mature deer provide more venison?

[First-light]

Why play "what if" games? 

 

We already have one of them going on in the thread "no more buck hunting". One is enough.........

Not playing games, this will become reality very soon and I hope it works out for us.

[Lawdwaz]

Not playing games, this will become reality very soon and I hope it works out for us.

 

I'm not too into speculation. 

 

I'll wait and let the DEC know my feelings when I get the survey.

[growalot]

Culver...yes and there is a concept of quality over quantity...

[growalot]

Before you pose that next question...For some yes..I personally don't eat veal either..wink..(no smilies on Kindle)

[G-Man]

Earliest will be 2016 season when new,management plan is,due. Only thing I would like to see are smaller wmu's

[JoeHunter]

Wouldn't a mature deer provide more venison?

 

Yes!  Lets get the DEC to implement age and body size restrictions!   Self regulated ARs are ok, but ARs the brain child the wanabe trophy hunters. 

[Paula]

Yes! Lets get the DEC to implement age and body size restrictions! Self regulated ARs are ok, but ARs the brain child the wanabe trophy hunters.

How do you age a deer?

[JoeHunter]

How do you age a deer?

 

I was being facetious.  However some self professed deer scientist will claim the antler points is related to age, and it is, but there real MO is getting bigger racks to the taxidermist and then on their walls.  My contention is that NYS is NOT being overrun with hunters and no real reason for ARs. If NYS hunter has only one weekend to hunt and wants venison in the freezer, don't make it harder. Far more politics than real science behind ARs.

[Paula]

As was I. Can't tell age by a quick look right before a shot.

[Lawdwaz]

I was being facetious.  However some self professed deer scientist will claim the antler points is related to age, and it is, but there real MO is getting bigger racks to the taxidermist and then on their walls.  My contention is that NYS is NOT being overrun with hunters and no real reason for ARs. If NYS hunter has only one weekend to hunt and wants venison in the freezer, don't make it harder. Far more politics than real science behind ARs.

 

You have a lot going on in that post.........the point that that got me first is highlighted in bold above.

 

 

SAY WHAT?

 

Soooooo, a 6 pointer is how old?  And a 10 pointer is........??

 

 

And to think all these years I've been going with the old lower jaw thingy..........

[growalot]

Paula go here ..... he has several videos on judging age on the hoof and it is really pretty accurate as far as getting past the 2 1/2 yr. stage...scroll to about 3 mins in if you don't want to watch the whole thing...he has a couple of more videos like this every season you can watch...personally some of the ones they pass would not get by me...they have to much going on that I like...and racks do change year to year besides the # of inches they sport...

 

http://www.growingdeer.tv/archive/category/deer-management/harvest-objectives#/aging-bucks-on-the-hoof

Edited January 11, 2015 by growalot