hunter49 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Saw this on another site. 2 coyote hunters at night, shot 2 horses by mistake. One horse died. It happened in West Sparta NY. on Moore rd. in Livingston co. Quite a size difference form coyote to horse. Accident ?? Any info. ? The DEC. is investigating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 That's a real sad deal right there.............pretty poor excuse for hunters IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 http://www.twcnews.com/nys/rochester/news/2015/01/28/livingston-county-horses-shot.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Years ago there was a local incident where 2 horses were shot and killed in a farmers barnyard during deer season.. I always suspected that someone had a grudge against the farmer and used the opportunity of DEER SEASON to get even with him.. The shooter was never caught. Nobody is going to mistake a horse for a deer, much less a coyote. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Pretty damn sad….no way these jack offs thought the horses were coyotes…….If they actually did then they are way..way.. beyond jack offs and have even less business anywhere near the woods……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reeltime Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 from the news article it seems as they know who it was. I just can not even fathom an explanation as to how you could mistake a horse for ANY kind of legal game animal... being a horse owner there is a lot I would like to type out here but i know better.... completely inexcusable and the shooters .should loose their hunting privileges for life! absolutely NO excuse for this! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFA-ADK Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132 eight pointer Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 That is awful, I hunt near there sometimes. I have to wonder if they were shooting at eyes in the dark ? No explanation will be a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 They talked about it on the radio, one of the hunters is a Livingston cnty police They also said it happened at 8 and reported at 10. Said they were trying to cover it up. It was on Kimberly and Beck. It was a hunt contest with a hunt club. Owner if club was going to call them. Not sure how much of this is true but this is what I heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Well that's not far from me so......No surprise here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat junkie Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 from the news article it seems as they know who it was. I just can not even fathom an explanation as to how you could mistake a horse for ANY kind of legal game animal... being a horse owner there is a lot I would like to type out here but i know better.... completely inexcusable and the shooters .should loose their hunting privileges for life! absolutely NO excuse for this! Shooting at "eye shine"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Shooting at "eye shine"? That's what comes to mind. That is one thing that makes me a bit uneasy about people calling game and relying on their spotlight to define the target. At night, occasionally all that is seen is a pair of eyes reflecting back. In total darkness, and lack of distance perception, anyone shooting in that specific condition has no idea what the hell they are shooting at. And yet from some videos that I have seen, that's not an unusual scenario for night-time predator hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesee_mohican Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 This was just over the hill from me and I haven't heard anything about it yet. I'd have to believe a set of horse eyes are quite different looking than a coyote or fox, Like 10 inches further apart! and the eyes would move a lot different than a small mammal. I just can't imagine this happening unless someone was totally clueless or on drugs. Very disturbing either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Maybe if they shot each other instead of the horses............................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 This was just over the hill from me and I haven't heard anything about it yet. I'd have to believe a set of horse eyes are quite different looking than a coyote or fox, Like 10 inches further apart! and the eyes would move a lot different than a small mammal. I just can't imagine this happening unless someone was totally clueless or on drugs. Very disturbing either way. That's why I mentioned the complete loss of distance perception. Distance between eye reflections has nothing to relate to if these horses were some distance off. And my reply was clearly not intended to be a justification. But from what I have seen in some of these predator hunting videos, these guys are shooting at eye reflections with absolutely no idea of what those eyes are attached to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Said they were trying to cover it up. Their buddy with the backhoe probably bailed on them..................figured he'd be to easy to track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 The old saying goes 'you cant fix stupid'. And this is more fuel for the antis. In the end the rest of us get penalised while other idiots cheer more feel good regulations shoveled out. When i first saw this thread i thought it would be about hillary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Howard Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Their buddy with the backhoe probably bailed on them..................figured he'd be to easy to track? Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrm Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Were the horses loose and wandering around? (Pretty unlikely at night - even it the gate was left open, horses would be more likely to stay near their shelter on a cold night.) If the horses were in their pasture/enclosure.... why the heck were these guys doing shooting at _anything_ in that area? It has nothing to do with night visibility. They would have been shooting at something on someone else's land where they did not have permission, and should have known the owner had livestock. Edited February 11, 2015 by jrm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Howard Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) I can't presume I know what happened I was not there. I'm not standing up for anyone who excesses poor judgement and is responsible for an incident like this one. But on behalf of actual predator hunters. Shooting at eye shine does not happen but for one potential circumstance. That is a fleeing predator that was already posativley identified and conformation it's stilll the same critter. Rare yes but it's the only time it happens. Now for folks that operate outside those rules.... Well I have my theories on that..... More than likely you know someone that would shoot eyes. Responsibility for these things are on us too. Teaching good hunting practice is the responsibility of a good hunter. Edited February 11, 2015 by itzdirty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I forgot all about this, I have no idea what happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 well, the article says the guys had permission to hunt there, so that answers that question......but if that's the case they should have known that horses are on the property, a horse is a pretty tall animal, so hard to make a mistake if they were standing, maybe they were bedded? and someone mentioned a backhoe brought in to cover it up, how do you bring a backhoe onto some one else's property and even think you can hide two horses that you killed...ya think the owner would notice? dumb, dumb, dumb......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 So, what happened to these guys? Anyone hear? Anyone arrested? .... If so were they charged? .... And if they were, what were they charged with? what was their plea? ..... What was the evidence? ..... Are they scheduled for court? We really don't know a whole hell of a lot about the incident or the case do we? For all we know, it may have been a case of intentional malicious destruction of personal property. Lol .... See I can guess and theorize right along with the best of them .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 here...It'as all I could find...one link had the story redacted?? .http://www.thehorse.com/%28S%28yiv2opvsileh0s5w3t3tcmt4%29%29/articles/35252/new-york-authorities-probe-horse-shootings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat junkie Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Funny how the "media" tends to quell coverage when a member of "law enforcment" might be involved in wrongdoing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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