Todd that's right..Todd Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 In this thread are a few pics of deer on racks behind the vehicle. I'm not sure if anybody realizes or how far they're traveling but you're blowing your car exhaust all over the animal. In essence you are fully contaminating the carcass and contaminating the meat with poisonous exhaust fumes not to mention all the other Road crap that spits up from the rear tires and gets all over. It also does not promote hunting well. In my experience it does bother a lot of people to see a dead deer carcass on a car when driving with the family Yes we all love hunting here , but as we know not everyone's a fan and we need to always promote a good image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Todd that's right..Todd said: you are fully contaminating the carcass and contaminating the meat with poisonous exhaust fumes not to mention all the other Road crap that spits up from the rear tires and gets all over. Concerns me. 52 minutes ago, Todd that's right..Todd said: it does bother a lot of people to see a dead deer carcass on a car when driving with the family Does not concern me. Had to be a little salty. But in all seriousness hiding dead deer during deer season in a rural area is part of the problem. When everyone hides their deer, it makes the occasional dead deer seem abnormal. It shouldn't be abnormal - it's a dead deer during deer season. That said, I may keep a deer wrapped up if I was traveling down main street in Buffalo, Syracuse, etc. Or maybe not.. Edited October 21, 2019 by Steuben Jerry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowin Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I have one of the hoist that fit in the hitch receiver. It has a manual boat winch to lift the deer. It works great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_C Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Todd that's right..Todd said: In this thread are a few pics of deer on racks behind the vehicle. I'm not sure if anybody realizes or how far they're traveling but you're blowing your car exhaust all over the animal. In essence you are fully contaminating the carcass and contaminating the meat with poisonous exhaust fumes not to mention all the other Road crap that spits up from the rear tires and gets all over. It also does not promote hunting well. In my experience it does bother a lot of people to see a dead deer carcass on a car when driving with the family Yes we all love hunting here , but as we know not everyone's a fan and we need to always promote a good image. I used to use a hitch hauler years ago. I always wrapped a tarp around the carcass, especially if driving in winter weather. God knows what chemicals they are spreading and spraying on the roads these days to prevent icing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_C Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 We have a nice set up this year, If one of us shoots one while hunting alone, we have a rope over a large branch near where we park that we can clip to an ATV to hoist it, then back the truck under it. Couldn't be simpler. Even better, we did this with the two does we took this year. We pulled them out of the woods intact, no field dressing. Hoisted them up, skinned them and quartered them, put the meat in coolers and disposed of the carcasses. We let the quarters, back straps, tenderloins and neck meat sit on ice for 48 hours then butchered them. As long as its not pouring rain or bitter cold, I don't think I will bring a whole deer home ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Todd that's right..Todd said: In this thread are a few pics of deer on racks behind the vehicle. I'm not sure if anybody realizes or how far they're traveling but you're blowing your car exhaust all over the animal. In essence you are fully contaminating the carcass and contaminating the meat with poisonous exhaust fumes not to mention all the other Road crap that spits up from the rear tires and gets all over. It also does not promote hunting well. In my experience it does bother a lot of people to see a dead deer carcass on a car when driving with the family Yes we all love hunting here , but as we know not everyone's a fan and we need to always promote a good image. Todd I refuse to hide my deer like it’s child porn , or any other thing to be ashamed of . I take mine right to a processor, but often bring one home to hang in the front yard, I’ve had groups of kids get off the bus and come over to see it . Then they ask to touch it , then I get to explain things about hunting ... My good friend now an attorney out West sometimes works pro bono for hunting causes and has held every office in his state bow association, became a hunter because as a kid doing his paper route ,guys all, had deer hanging from trees in their front yards . I totally disagree with the hide your deer from the public notion . 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Anyone offended by a dead deer can kick rocks. Seriously. If they’ve been on the road longer than 15 minutes they’ve passed three dead ones hit by carsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd that's right..Todd Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I want to apologize I didn't mean to offend anybody or stir the pot. Yes in rural areas it is more common to see a deer strapped to a vehicle and there are a lot less people around. Although if you come from a City or Suburban areas and have to drive a few hours A lot of people are going to see a dead deer on your vehicle. There are many people that are okay with it including myself , but in general there are more people that are not okay with it especially in more populated areas. It's more about promoting a good image for Hunters now and in the future. By the way I received this info from the DEC officers when they teach the hunter education course. I personally would be more concerned about the contaminants the deer would get from the road debris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 My Pop used to transport them this way 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, Todd that's right..Todd said: I want to apologize I didn't mean to offend anybody or stir the pot. Yes in rural areas it is more common to see a deer strapped to a vehicle and there are a lot less people around. Although if you come from a City or Suburban areas and have to drive a few hours A lot of people are going to see a dead deer on your vehicle. There are many people that are okay with it including myself , but in general there are more people that are not okay with it especially in more populated areas. It's more about promoting a good image for Hunters now and in the future. By the way I received this info from the DEC officers when they teach the hunter education course. I personally would be more concerned about the contaminants the deer would get from the road debris. Certainly not offended in the least Todd. You have good points, especially the road contamination point. The hiding of deer is a result of non-hunters or anti-hunters successfully erasing the visual evidence of hunting. I don't wanting hunting to be something that has to be hidden. I feel dirty hiding the spoils of a successful hunt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 My Pop used to transport them this way Funny story, when I was probably 8-10 years old my great uncle was doing a logging job down in Cobleskill NY opening day I skipped school and road down with my great grandfather to meet my uncle and grandfather to hunt. On our way back home my Great Grandfather insisted on strapping the three deer they killed “2 bucks and a doe” to the hood of his Caprice wagon for the hour and a half ride home. I remember him saying “you pay attention out that side because I can’t see over these deer” I don’t know if he was kidding or serious but I remember taking my job very seriously and giving him the play by play the whole ride home. I remember getting many thumbs up and we had big smiles on our faces for the ride. I have always had trucks and never had a need to strap the to a car but would have zero issues doing it. If someone don’t like it they don’t have to look just like I do with many things in our society that I don’t agree with.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 When I was a kid and tagging along with my Dad and uncle hunting in Lewis county, saw a guy coming out of a back dirt road and we had to talk to him. Young guy with a little car on sand dirt road with a deer on the roof and a bear on the trunk. Lol. It was awesome. He shot a 4 point and was cleaning it and heard brush breaking and looked up and there was a bear. We asked if he wanted help and we followed him out to the main road to be sure he made it ok. He was all smiles for sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_machine Heres your choices , many have listed three, lever, inclined plane and pulley, I guess one could add Moog, but he’s not as readily available in all areas . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I want to apologize I didn't mean to offend anybody or stir the pot. Yes in rural areas it is more common to see a deer strapped to a vehicle and there are a lot less people around. Although if you come from a City or Suburban areas and have to drive a few hours A lot of people are going to see a dead deer on your vehicle. There are many people that are okay with it including myself , but in general there are more people that are not okay with it especially in more populated areas. It's more about promoting a good image for Hunters now and in the future. By the way I received this info from the DEC officers when they teach the hunter education course. I personally would be more concerned about the contaminants the deer would get from the road debris. I live in Westchester, 20 minutes from NYC. I put my deer uncovered on a rack. I butcher my own deer after i hang it in my backyard tree where at least 6 neighboring houses can see it-not to rub it in their faces but because it is the right tree for the job. When i do i have neighbors coming over, hesitant at first and they leave with meat in hand and smiling. Why? Cause they are curious and i am doing more good for hunting and myself and them then hunting like i am doing something wrong. When i started teaching in the Bronx i would bring my bird dog and pheasant he flushed to football practice after hunting the morning if we had Sunday games. THAT’s an education, no? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Todd that's right..Todd said: . By the way I received this info from the DEC officers when they teach the hunter education course. I personally would be more concerned about the contaminants the deer would get from the road debris. I took the archery safety class last year and they spent at least twenty minutes talking about this. What it had to do with safety, I have no idea. i have a large SUV and if I transport my deer it’s back there but covered, trying to keep the ticks under control. Last year I had a pickup available the weekend I shot my buck. I was bringing it to my friends house to butcher it and I had someone follow me and pull into his driveway. Wasn’t sure if was going to scold me or congratulate me.....turns out he wanted to hear the story of my buck. But you never know these days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytracker Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) A few seasons ago it was warm on opening day . I had shot a deer in the morning . I ran it home skinned it quartered and into the fridge. Hopped in to the trick and headed back out . Got to a light and a woman rolls up beside me in her SUV honks the horn and gestures to me to roll the window down . So I rolled the window and she yells "hey redneck you could have at least washed the blood of the back of your truck " and gives me the finger I smiled and told her to have a great day , and drove away. I never thought about the blood dripping on my bumper of my truck . Honestly found her reaction humorous. Opening day ,dead deer hanging ,going back out hunting . She couldn't rain on that parade. Edited October 22, 2019 by Nytracker 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Todd that's right..Todd said: I want to apologize I didn't mean to offend anybody or stir the pot. Yes in rural areas it is more common to see a deer strapped to a vehicle and there are a lot less people around. Although if you come from a City or Suburban areas and have to drive a few hours A lot of people are going to see a dead deer on your vehicle. There are many people that are okay with it including myself , but in general there are more people that are not okay with it especially in more populated areas. It's more about promoting a good image for Hunters now and in the future. By the way I received this info from the DEC officers when they teach the hunter education course. I personally would be more concerned about the contaminants the deer would get from the road debris. Todd ,welcome and please continue to,post here, you seem well spoken and thoughtful . This is just one small area we may disagree . I happen to know two DEC officers and met another last year at my hunting spot ,hope to see him again . It’s never been a thing with the guys I know . I live and hunt around Rochester ,btw . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I want to apologize I didn't mean to offend anybody or stir the pot. Yes in rural areas it is more common to see a deer strapped to a vehicle and there are a lot less people around. Although if you come from a City or Suburban areas and have to drive a few hours A lot of people are going to see a dead deer on your vehicle. There are many people that are okay with it including myself , but in general there are more people that are not okay with it especially in more populated areas. It's more about promoting a good image for Hunters now and in the future. By the way I received this info from the DEC officers when they teach the hunter education course. I personally would be more concerned about the contaminants the deer would get from the road debris. I think we are worried about 1/10 of 1% of people that would be offended by a dead deer, and again they can kick rocks. I'm tired of worrying about what the super minority thinks. In all matters. Be proud of your deer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd that's right..Todd Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Hello Fellow Hunters, This thread has had some great responses. I would like to be clear that I agree that we should be proud of what we do as hunters. I know I am very proud of getting my first Turkey with a bow on Sunday. I even posted my harvest on Instagram from Timber to the table . My initial post was not my opinion it was more factual.I am ok with a hunter putting their harvest on the vehicle and they should proud of it. We as hunters know it's no easy task to harvest a wild animal and there is a lot "homework" involved to be a successful hunter. I know in more rural areas hunting is a very much accepted as way of life and it should be. Unfortunately the general population does not feel the same. That is not my opinion it happens to be the facts. I initially posted this thread to just bring awareness and be mindful of promoting a good image for hunters across the board. I hope this cleared things up. Good luck to everyone in the woods and be safe. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I disagree-the “general population” has made no conscious decision about hunting but has been indoctrinated to think hunting is just wrong because the sweet little critters deserve life(media depicts hunting guns and camo as scary, Bambi, trophy hunters only taking horns, etc).As a result, they have no idea what is actually happening when and why and how deer and animals are harvested/hunted. By me not hiding my harvest, i am opening a dialogue with those uneducated about hunting so the actual story can be told. Will i convert them all - nope! Will I respectfully show them a different way of seeing hunting vs the impression of Hollywood and the media...hope so! I talk about the organic meat i now have for my family, the help to the forest rehab program, the reduction of car accidents or ticks, the leather i make, the time spent in nature with my kids. This has changed the impression of every one i speak with in the most liberal, uppity sections of Westchester. They don’t run out and join NRA, but they also dont hold an image of a beer guzzling, bearded, toothless, reckless, redneck who kills everything that media and Disney portrays!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I disagree-the “general population” has made no conscious decision about hunting but has been indoctrinated to think hunting is just wrong because the sweet little critters deserve life(media depicts hunting guns and camo as scary, Bambi, trophy hunters only taking horns, etc).As a result, they have no idea what is actually happening when and why and how deer and animals are harvested/hunted. By me not hiding my harvest, i am opening a dialogue with those uneducated about hunting so the actual story can be told. Will i convert them all - nope! Will I respectfully show them a different way of seeing hunting vs the impression of Hollywood and the media...hope so! I talk about the organic meat i now have for my family, the help to the forest rehab program, the reduction of car accidents or ticks, the leather i make, the time spent in nature with my kids. This has changed the impression of every one i speak with in the most liberal, uppity sections of Westchester. They don’t run out and join NRA, but they also dont hold an image of a beer guzzling, bearded, toothless, reckless, redneck who kills everything that media and Disney portrays!Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI’m offended, although I have most of my teeth I am a beer guzzling, bearded, reckless, redneck who kills who kills a lot of things the media and Disney portrays. But I like your style and think you’re doing a good thing by not hiding it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd that's right..Todd Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Hey Crappyice, I realize you are not seeing my point. I am posting about keeping a positive image for hunters. I understand and agree with you about harvesting and the organics of the whole process and conservation. Explaining this to someone you know to better understand what hunters do and why we do it is great. Just remember there are hundreds of people who see the carcass on your vehicle that you.will never talk to and open up dialogue in a positive way. Most of them will only see the negative of it and never get the dialogue. Again this is about promoting a positive image of hunting. A picture is worth a thousand words. I would hope that the picture is a positive one opposed to a negative one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I think the general population does have a positive opinion of hunters, and are not offended by a dead deer. And I couldn’t care less about the tiny fraction that are. Congrats on the turkey Todd, that’s a heck of an accomplishment!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I see your point Todd - tasteful is better. How I accomplish this (even for those who i dont get to speak with) is by putting the “gutted side in” facing the trunk so others travelers do not need to be overexposed to the reality of what just happened. I clean up the excess blood and try to tuck that tongue back in. I clean myself up (no bloody hands at the gas station!).I wave, “tip my cap” and act like nothing is odd about having a deer on the back of my car to travelers who I see on the road who are noticing my prize. Often, if they are leery at first, then wave and smile back.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I’m offended, although I have most of my teeth I am a beer guzzling, bearded, reckless, redneck who kills who kills a lot of things the media and Disney portrays. But I like your style and think you’re doing a good thing by not hiding it. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou and me both Brother! Me too and Proudly so within spitting distance of NYC!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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