Frustrated with bow hunters

[308shooter]

I have been on this site for approx one week and I have lost count as to how many deer have been lost after being shot. I now know why the dec is extending the bow season next year. Let u people cull the herd while the dec reaps in the money from our licenses. This has got to be the first time in the history of any local gov't that they can actually make a profit without lifting a finger or breaking a sweat. Unbelieveable...a lot you should be ashamed of yourselves. Thank God for the AR. Maybe there will be something left for gun season for the rest of us. Can't wait to see the responses to this one....and no I have never lost a deer after shooting it...that I can honestly say.

[Four Season Whitetail's]

I dont think that statement even justifies a reply.. That dog could take on a fight in a few different way's. Im sure every bowhunter on this site would be wiling to rip into this one but me i think i will save my word's because god knows i dont stand a chance to fight someone with perfection!!!

[308shooter]

Perfection...no...no one is perfect.....frustration more like it....u have to admit there is a lot of stories of lost deer on this site and this is only one ste of prob thousands across the country. What bothers me is that it doesnt seem to bother anyone else..response is better luck next time or don't worry there is plenty of season left. I was taught don't shoot if you don't think you can put it down. There are a lot of bad decisions being being made. The people that post their stories readily admit it in their blogs. "should have waited another 10 yds, should have checked the pins again before going out, and on and on"

[WNYBuckHunter]

Perfection...no...no one is perfect.....frustration more like it....u have to admit there is a lot of stories of lost deer on this site and this is only one ste of prob thousands across the country. What bothers me is that it doesnt seem to bother anyone else..response is better luck next time or don't worry there is plenty of season left. I was taught don't shoot if you don't think you can put it down. There are a lot of bad decisions being being made. The people that post their stories readily admit it in their blogs. "should have waited another 10 yds, should have checked the pins again before going out, and on and on"

What you are saying is pure out bull. Plenty of deer are lost or injured each year by gun hunters, so your insinuations about archery hunters are nothing more than one hunter bashing another based on nothing more than ignorance and misinformation. Guys like yourself are the reason why hunters as a whole are easy targets for anti-hunting organizations.

Facts are, in a perfect world, we would all make nothing but perfect shots, no matter what weapon we are using, but in the real world, bad shots happen. If you havent made one, you havent been hunting long enough.

If you want to continue to trash talk bow hunters, start your own thread for it. Stop hijacking this one.

[WNYBuckHunter]

Actually, there ya go, your own post. Have at it.

[308shooter]

No thanks an honest opinion is not warranted anywhere on this site especially by the moderators..and their lackeys......have seen how u deal with people who's ideas differ from your own. Have seen enough...would rather go elsewhere.

[NYBowhunter]

I know more gun hunters that have lost deer then I have heard bow hunters loosing deer on this site. But one thing for sure is I wont give all gun hunters a bad name. Its hunting and yes I demand respect for deer in my hunting party but bad shots happen. Accidents and mishaps happen in all sports, name one sport that is perfect........Wow talk about trashing your fellow hunters, you might as well be an anti...Please enlighten us as to how you became such a perfect, efficent hunter....Come on there has to be a secret your not telling us?

[WNYBuckHunter]

No thanks an honest opinion is not warranted anywhere on this site especially by the moderators..and their lackeys......have seen how u deal with people who's ideas differ from your own. Have seen enough...would rather go elsewhere.

Its not about differing opinions, its about hijacking threads, which is why I moved it into a separate thread.

I stated my opinion about what you said, as others undoubtedly will as well.

BTW, if youd like the title of the thread to be changed, let me know what you want it to be and Ill change it to that.

[BizCT]

When I hunted in PA, the rule was that if you drew blood you were done hunting, so you better make your shot count. Obviously there is no way to enforce this in NY on private and public lands....maybe all the wounded deer will create more and more non-typicals in our state? lol

[Geno C]

accusations made by inexperienced individuals... gotta love guys like 308. if you never lost a deer your either perfect or dont hunt enough?

i have seen guys who loose alot of deeron and off here BUT these sort of things happen with the gun also, more so because i think there is a false sense of security using a gun with guys thinking it does more damage?

[First-light]

I made a comment a week ago that it seemed we had more than our share of wounded deer this year. That by no means should be a reflection on us. Bowhunting is difficult but success can be achieved by practice and knowing your limits. Yes many gun hunters wound deer also so that doesn't fly with me. Honestly 308 you can take it some where else and preach to them.

[steve863]

I know more gun hunters that have lost deer then I have heard bow hunters loosing deer on this site.

Maybe you know MORE gun hunters who have lost deer outside this site, but if you just kept things within this site, I would say bowhunters losses have outnumbered gun hunters losses by a wide margin. At least from the ones who have admitted to losing deer with either weapon. Maybe bowhunters are just more honest, I don't know? I am predominantly a gun hunter who has taken up bowhunting again after never being very serious about it when I did bowhunt the first time. I mainly took it up again because it allows me a chance at a deer of either sex, where doe permits in my area are not very easy to get anymore. I will still hold to my personal theory that it's a whole lot easier to lose a deer with a bow than it is with a gun. And I am talking about hunters who are skillful with either weapon here, not just those who never practice at all. A good rifleman's odds of putting down the deer for good is better than it is for the good archer in all honesty. There are more things that could go haywire when you let an arrow fly compared to a bullet. Anyone looking at it honestly really can't argue with this. Not knocking bowhunters or bowhunting here, just calling it the way I see it and talking about shooters with some skill and not those who pick up their weapons only when they are out hunting. Losses will happen with any weapon if you hunt long enough. I just think the possibility is greater with a bow and if everyone is really being honest here, it has also been proven by the posts to this site.

[ny hunter]

You know 308 I feel bad enough I lost a deer,I was gonna lay into your statement but i see you got your own problems so I well leave it at that.

[biggamefish]

Never lost a deer that you know of. That right there is a broad statement. Shouldn't you know every shot you take specially with a gun? Guns bows crossbows muzzelloader hunting have all lost deer it sucks. The difference is when it happens people have to take every means possible to find the deer. Some of the stories on her do seem like they are oh well lost another one whatever but more of the majority sound like they put in the effort to find them. Your statement was a dink of a statement but you are entitled to your opinion.

[otis2]

Instead of frustration with archery hunters, I believe your frustration lies more with individuals who choose to make poor or unethical shots in an attempt to harvest a deer. The individual that takes a poor shot with a bow is the same individual that takes a poor shot with a firearm. Your frustration is felt by most sportsmen, but it shouldn’t be aimed at ethical archery hunters.

[Joe Red]

Back when I lived in PA I had thousands of acres of state forest as my backyard. Every year at least once some times twice a year we would see deer in the back with arrows sticking out of them,totally disgusting and down right horrible for the animal. These deer would travel right into the community from that state land.That doesn't paint a good picture to what we called up there citiots who see this especially when they are antis up for the weekend with there families. "Hey mommy that deer has a stick on it". No thats a 30" arrow sticking out of its ass or back .You shouldn't be hunting with a weapon you aren't comfortable with or haven't practice with. Especially with a bow,you should be shooting that thing all year long in all different positions and from stands. Also educate yourself on how deer react to hearing that string being released,you can watch any deer show on tv to see that. And NY hunter did see a lot of screwed up racks or "non typicals"as you called them.lol

[Joe Red]

That non typical comment in my post was for biz-r-oworld .

[Dom]

Anger management thats all i can say.

[meatmuzzy]

All I can say is, dude, we are all deer hunters here. Like it was said a bunch of times, gun hunters lose deer too. Please dont put us into our own category of "you bowhunters" its the weapon that we choose. You happen to hunt with a gun. The bottom line is WE ARE ALL OUT FOR THE SAME THING. You my friend should be ashamed of that statement you just made. I suggest you never post another thread on this sight because I sure as hell wont be reading any of your ignorant BS

[the blur]

Back when I lived in PA I had thousands of acres of state forest as my backyard. Every year at least once some times twice a year we would see deer in the back with arrows sticking out of them,totally disgusting and down right horrible for the animal. These deer would travel right into the community from that state land.That doesn't paint a good picture to what we called up there citiots who see this especially when they are antis up for the weekend with there families. "Hey mommy that deer has a stick on it". No thats a 30" arrow sticking out of its ass or back .You shouldn't be hunting with a weapon you aren't comfortable with or haven't practice with. Especially with a bow,you should be shooting that thing all year long in all different positions and from stands. Also educate yourself on how deer react to hearing that string being released,you can watch any deer show on tv to see that. And NY hunter did see a lot of screwed up racks or "non typicals"as you called them.lol

Would you eat that deer with an infected arrow sticking out of it's hide?

[Four Season Whitetail's]

What an assnine statement. I could just about guarntee that on opening weekend of shotgun/rifle in the southern teir there are more deer wounded and run off to die or wounded and still hangin on for another day than there is wounded in the southern and northern zone bow all year!!. 308 that is such a joke!!! If you have never lost a deer in your life you need to become a hunters ed teacher or something. I suppose all the guys you hunt with all have perfect record's also. I would say just another disgruntled gun hunter that is pissed off because the bow's are in the wood's first. If that in fact is the case then you need to pick yurself up a bow and get out here with us. As good as you are with a gun,a bow should be no problem!!

[nyantler]

You fellas don't have to agree with his statement, but he's still entitled to his opinion... I think he's wrong about it being just bowhunters... it happens all the time with all types of weapons... missed shots are just part of the human condition... I think I've said it before.. there are no sure shots... just higher percentage shots... losing deer is less the problem than losing a deer because of a bad shot choice.. especially if you know it's a bad choice. So although I don't like how he said it.. he is right on some points.. but it is not a bowhunting problem its a hunter problem... the problem of having to kill something at all costs... even if it means taking a shot you have no business taking... but we are all human and we make mistakes so you better be prepared to accept some mistakes or go through life terribly frustrated. FYI I have never lost a deer either, but thats only because I've had some good luck, not because I haven't made mistakes as well.

[Chrishunter]

Hey 308, I gotta say I do respect your opinion on injured deer never recovered, but I definitely dont agree with it. Like said before, thats hunting. This site is meant for real hunters that encounter all types of situations in the woods. Its a great site for input, advice, and just chatting about our hunts. Yes I have injured and not recovered many deer both with gun and bow and Im sure many hunters on here have as well. But STOP drinking the kool-aid that the outdoor channel feeds you, its not REAL hunting. Those hunters lose just as many deer as we do, but will never air it on TV.

[nyantler]

I'm sure we all know of a buck that was lost with a good hit in him as well... so it's not always bad shots.

[pawle76]

Just what we need more fighting amongst hunters. This is why anti hunters will probably win this war. They're united, we as hunters need to be united also.