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Agreed that it would probably be illegal in that area to shoot the bear. This has already happened to me in Roscoe. We let the bear eat the doe who had a bad shoulder because he got to her before any of us hunters could. This is nature, it is cruel and merciless. Something most who are not familiar with the woods frown upon because they really have no clue on the circle of life. Two day feast for that bear with nothing but fur left. (We had strict orders from the land owner to harvest this doe due to her bad shoulder but the bear was hungry and ran her down first.) Inhumane, cruel, blood thirsty, and killers are some of the words activists use to describe hunters, yet these are the same people who think the same of this bear. Life and nature can be awe inspiring and beautiful but get lost in these remote woods and you will find how cruel, harsh and insensitive mother nature can really be. Part of the circle of life is survival of the fittest, most people who are not familiar with nature except the "nature walks" they go on forget this fact. But they love to protest us hunters! Mother nature is insensitive, cruel and harsh, she shows not pity or remorse. She will take one doe with a bear or thousands with a tsunami. Inhumane: not humane; lacking humanity, kindness, compassion, etc. This is a term people use when they see something in nature they do not like or understand and love to tag hunters with it. Usually because they DO NOT understand. They also want to forget the fact that they are here because there four fathers where hunters. The same cruel and inhumane people they protest today are just like their great grandparents where but they will ignore this fact. Preaching to the choir I know but I was bored, lol.

What would I do? Given that shooting either would probably be illegal, you really have no options. That deer was likely a goner even if the bear was somehow driven away. I don't see anything that could be done in a practical and legal sense. There sure did seem to be a whole lot of suffering involved.......Something that perhaps some of these anti-hunters should witness who fantasize that without hunters, animals would simply pass quietly in their sleep as victims of old age. Pretty disturbing stuff.

I almost forgot about the bear that killed a deer in my neighbors yard a few years ago,lol. This sucker didn't even eat the deer, he just killed for sport, and then moved on to the bird feeders after he was done drooling all over the soggy carcass! Once the food was gone, no one ever saw the bear again. Bears typically aren't ambush predators that lie and wait over a location waiting to pounce just because they caught a meal there before.(unless we're talking grizzlies over a salmon pool) They're scavengers or oppertunistc feeders... not pre meditated killers, that's why I think something rare occurred the led the bear in the original post to kill this deer where it did. Anyhow, here's our local killer!

Have had Equine meat more than a few times, it makes for outstanding table fare. A few times in Europe, here at home where some local Mexican folks grill it for fajitas, and the kind that wear black and white pajamas; Go out of my way to munch on some Zebra. Grilled loin as steak, in a rich stroganoff style gravy, breaded like schnitzel with wild mushroom sauce. Bought dried sausage snack sticks made of Zebra meat on several occasions for hunting snack in the field and could live on that and Eland biltong (like chewy soft jerky). YUM!

But what about all the blataint racism demonstrated in every single scene in which that car with the rebel flag was shown????? Was it less racist in "the past?" And I will ask again, how did the confederate flag originate? was it developed specifically as the symbol of white, Southern, redneck racism? Im sure you know.

I probably would have shot that bear 1000x's............... with my camera ! I think there is probably more that led up to this than we see here. I would guess that deer was sick or injured and the bear "hunted it down" and cornered it in that backyard where it could easily catch and eat it.

Actually, checking out the color of my arm, I guess I would have to say that it is pretty much a light tan. Even in the winter time, I don't think I would really call it "white". The fact is that I haven't really ever seen anyone who was really white. And also, I do have a mole on my forearm that is very dark brown. I'm not sure how to factor that in there. At any rate, there is nothing in any of my skin color that I would call "white". So I guess I am a "non-white member". So with that established .... What was the question again???

OMG! I think the sky is falling! Someday something might happen to somebody somewhere that's going to maybe cause a problem for somebody somewhere. I think I'll sleep just fine tonight.

Thanks. The panoramic shots were done from my iPhone. All others are with my Canon 6D. I use a 24-105mm F4 as my all purpose lens and that was the only item I bought with me for this trip. No tripod, flash, etc. Had to pack light since the wife bought everything but the kitchen sink for the baby. The 24-105mm F4 is nice and a good choice for all purpose, jack of all trades master of none type of lens. I bought it years ago but if I went back in time, I would not have gotten it. Most of my pictures are street photography and landscapes. 98% of all my shots are under 70mm and being able to go below F4 would have been nice. When it comes to architecture and street photography, you want to get as wide of an angle as you can get without getting fish-eyed. I've been told by many experts that the best zoom is your legs and as I gained more and more experience, I realize how true that is. Unlike wildlife, most architecture and street photography, you can get up close with your subjects. But when you're indoors, you may not be able to step back (small room, wall behind you, etc). Ever since I started hunting, I stopped taking pictures. I replaced one form of "shooting" with another form of "shooting" and so the only time the camera gets dusted off is during vacations or special events. Now that I'm comfortable enough with hunting where I don't always feel like I need to be successful every time out I think I might bring the camera out here and there.

Humans are way more likely to be dangerous to hunting that any natural causation. The chances of a colony-collapse-esque issue from a natural genesis as it relates to deer is minor compared to anything us idiots can accomplish.

Your beyond ridiculous

Well looks like today is the end of a grate hunting partner Sir Oz is going to be going to the vet he no longer can stand on his own he was a grate hunting partner and friend he will be missed by me and the family also the many friends he made while hunting with the retrieving there many birds also squerals and rabbits

http://griffinsguide.com/content/2015/06/28/bear-takes-down-deer-in-colorado-mans-backyard-video/ Scroll down for the video. I saw this posted on Facebook and read some of the comments.. I was wondering what my fellow hunters would have done in this situation. I personally could not watch the entire video. Although this is part of nature and the so-called circle of life, I would have killed the bear without taking a second thought and then i would put the deer down and out of its misery, because if this was in a residential area with children and pets outside, who knows what the next meal would have been for this bear. Now If this happened in the woods I would have let nature take it's course except if the bear attacked my 10 point buck I just shot, the bear would be a goner as well (provided of course that bear was in season) So what would you do?

I'm working in Europe for the summer; & the local butcher has horse meat. It is the leanest meat I have ever seen. No fat at all. Even less than venison. I didn't even know what it is, because they use the German name for horse meat. But it was so red, and so lean I had to ask what it was. I forget the German name, it was Pfred...... something, so I asked the butcher to translate it for me. He said, it's the finest tasting of all meats. Richer in vitamins than any other meat available. And it taste like beef.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-33360817 One little creature holds 8 people hostage for 3 hours at the UK park, really? How about to pop one in his..... oh wait, I forgot they don't have guns. Well, there you have it always carry or will be eaten by the fox :-) The final question I have is: "What did the fox say..." (sorry couldn't help it...) :-)

I got a couple pics of my wife from her father's day with her dad. They had 19 in the boat I think,they all got thrown back. The biggest was 19 inches. EDIT,she'll kill me if she knows i posted pregnant pictures of her on the web.

http://www.adn.com/article/lone-predatory-black-bears-responsible-most-human-attacks http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110511074807.htm http://www.northjersey.com/community-news/predatory-black-bears-1.414317 http://www.bearmonitoring.com/2014/06/most-fatal-attacks-are-predatory/ I COULD CONTINUE BUT MOST OF YOU WON'T READ THEM ANY HOW...

Another Wooly classic!

No question that Ma Nature is a cruel one. This kind of death and even much worse is part of every day in the wild. However, I absolutely do sympathize with those that would like to have had the scene interrupted. I have to say that I am a pretty hardened old critter that has seen some pretty horrible crap, but I see no way that someone would watch that video without feeling some sympathy for the deer. I have to admit to feeling a lot of the same kind of discomfort (if that really is the right word) as I did when my Brother-in-law spined a doe once. We both went absolutely berserk trying to finish the animal as quickly as possible. A definite panic set in that one of these critters that we were trying to kill was enduring such terror and pain. I think it is quite natural to want to stop the suffering. Watching this video brought on the same feelings and desire to have someone do something. I have to admit to stopping the video before it was finished. It was that hard to look at. Of course, given the fact that the bear was in the midst of a killing frenzy, and that it most likely was illegal to fire a gun in that kind of residential area, the practical options were certainly limited to pretty much nothing.

There were times when I was so hungry I could eat a .... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That beast is not welcome on my property regardless of the reason...Very least he would have got was birdshot in the backside but truth be known...He would be getting hauled away in the back of a truck. Pretty simple with kids and people around. He would have thought it was fair game from there on in and the old lady bent over in the garden tending her flowers may have been his next meal..Ya he would probably be dead! Now did i just spin this whole thing from animal prey to human prey? God i'm so sorry!

No one is talking moving and I have the exact same situation as you...that said ....when a bear has become brazen enough to track and kill a deer in a fenced area close to my home, during broad daylight and while I stood near by in plain sight filming it...then the bear needs to be moved. See that is the common sense part of the whole...." It's mother nature at work" comes into play. That's also great your willing to take your chances...BUT should someone living near you with kids have to take chances...should the elderly person that likes to garden in their back yard have to take chances...Lets just talk a little common sense for a moment.

http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2015/06/15/video-bear-takes-deer-colorado-mans-backyard/

I agree BUT there comes a time when ma nature verses human safety has to be considered...whether that deer was in some way incapacitated and hunted to that area the bear has now found a hunting "zone"...now if it were just a case of adults only in the area fine. When it comes to young people and smaller framed unarmed people in an area this bear can not be allowed to stay.... If the constant "don't feed the bears" and the fact that hunting them over bait hasn't made people especially hunter realize they are creatures of habit and OPPORTUNITY than I can understand the comments above...other than that people on both sides of the issue seem to be wearing rose colored glasses

It's just the way of the woods. Although it did happen in a backyard this particular video. It happens in the woods every day. Just a bear doing what bears do. Nothing to see here folks, just move along.

The Bear looked like he had chewed off a little too much there. I would have kicked him in the butt and seen him off. Not in my back yard. Don't like the idea of my yard being a dinner buffet zone for bears. And I consider myself and family as being part of nature. This is nature too close for comfort. Do bears carry rabies?

Nice video. I like Ben's comment below the video- also.

I would have been on the phone to 911 ...getting the cops / DEC out there. That was clearly a fenced area...That bear poses a danger. I first would have grabbed my shot gun and fired a round in the ground to try and scare off the attack..

So, can anyone explain why the ammo manufacturers are not responding as any business would. ..... Boost production to meet demand. Yes, I can understand why they might not instantly react to a spike that they believe to be merely a temporary blip in demand, but for crying out loud, this I now going on for a period of time that is now measured in years. Damn, just out of respect to their stockholders, they should be making hay while the sun shines. You have an expanding market ..... get out there and make money off of it. Why isn't that happening.

And who will be setting that as a pre-requisite?? ......Our friend Andy? I doubt it. More likely he will select an anti-gunner, animal rights activist.

What a great plot for a movie!

I don't think we need the statistical breakdown...the bottom line is that that the wants of NY hunters is so varied that DEC can't come to a decision as what to do to make everyone happy.

Man that's tough. Memories are great but these things suck when the time comes. Last one dug so deep i have not gotten another!

Her's to the OP and the reason for the thread, I am half non-white and dont give half a $hit about any flag. I do not see how someone can point out a few things and be called a racist. Being half spanish I hate some of the spanish people more then any white racist you have ever met. They bring a bad name to an entire group of people...call it what ever the hell you want but its true. I have black friends that most of you would consider more racist then the people on this site against a large portion of the black community. Its funny that calling a spade a spade is now "RACIST"

FMJs are tough as can be. I don't change arrows often on purpose, but when my current stockpile of Epic Sts are gone...FMJs all the way.

I do not think it possible to change the mind of a confirmed liberal, leftist, or Progressive, no matter the amount of factual, historical, or logical information presented. Once they have adopted what they are told to think, they are closed minded and hostile to any other opinion. It's quite like a herd mentality.

I've gone from "taking her fishing" to "going fishing with her" and for those that fish with their kids that's a HUGE distinction! She did great today, all on her own

I thought maybe I could stir up a little more interest in old time muzzle loading. This is a .40 Cal., 44" barrel, iron furniture. Its very light and a dandy small game rifle, though in other states, deer can are legally taken with this caliber. Robby

I finished up a .36 caliber western Carolina rifle a few weeks ago. I haven't had a chance to sight it in properly, what with the crap weather we have had, but I see some woodchucks in its near future. Something about the plain and rugged beauty of these guns that captured my imagination so I made one. Robby