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OK the loan hen came back a few minutes later she past back the way she came. I called softly and a got a gobble after working him he gave me a shot 20lbs 9+ on beard Sent from my XT830C using Tapatalk

. Anybody who hasn't missed hasn't shot at very many turkeys. I have certainly missed my share in the last forty-some years...

And BOOM goes the dinamite ! Had two gobblin on either side of me below the ridge I'm on ... They shut up bout an hour ago ... Soft called him in , came in silent , started puttin and I waited till he popped behind a tree , raised up, when he stuck his head out boom, paced it off at 39 yds ... He was just about to disappear below the rise .... Good to get one out of the way now I can enjoy the rest of season [emoji41] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think another big part of the equation is that kids mature at diffrent rates and it's up to the parents to recognize what is a realistic goal for the kids on an individual basis.

So I havent missed yet, but along with what pygmy says I've only shot 3 birds. I love deer hunting, but turkey is definatley a challenge for me. I think im about 8 seasons in with turkey and learn something new every year. I'd like to think I'm a decent deer hunter, but as a turkey hunter I still have much to learn. Not for nothing , but a miss will teach you things a hit never did.

Yea maybe later in season I may try he's got a good head on him but don't know first thing about turkey hunting never been before...ever....I went and picked up licence decoy and more shells today so I'm ready for sunday....I know where the birds are and am going to try and slip in within a 150 or so and try and get one to fly down within range and get home early....here's hoping lol....Actually in all honestly all I want is the birds to be vocal. This will be his first true experience watching the woods wake up and turkey hunting too so just seeing that and hearing that will probably be enough to get him to want to go back out...he turns 13 sat and dad don't hunt much except deer and my boys only 5 so glad to have him want to be out there Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

Please excuse me, because some of the members here have heard this story.. When I was in my late teens I had a sword fight with a porcupine underneath a junked car ..I was armed with the 18" Japanese bayonet that my Dad brought back from WWII, and the porky was armed with his natural defenses.. Suffice to say, I had to jab and parry like crazy to keep him from filling my face with quills, and I made a quick retreat in reverse lying on my belly. There is a good chance that alcohol was involved in that incident. I can't remember for sure since it was about 50 years ago.

Spring turkey 2 years back when I was trying to learn how to hunt them with neighbor...could have picked him up...actually poked him with my 12 g barrel so shooting them isn't much fun for me....that would change if I had dogs and didn't want more fisher.... Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Edit...pic is behind my house 4 or 500 yards Edit again....the remind me of eore on winnie the pooh lol

I'm takin my nieces out tomorrow for the first time behind their house. No idea what the local bird population is like however. Gonna be interesting.

Out with the bow tday back after the two birds the dude scared away the other day ... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You're joking right? That "pompous arrogant elitist" has probably done more for conservation and education than you could ever dream of. The "holier than thou" attitude is backed by years of knowledge and research. You shouldn't be offended by his sounding "snobbish" as you call it, if you don't open your mind to the real life ideas and experiences he lays out there for you. It's never too late to learn, even when you think you've got it all figured out on your own. That's not arrogance, that's simply one member trying to help another see things in a different light through his own personal experiences. If that's not for you, then you may have stopped at the wrong place my friend, because there seems to be a lot of that going on around here with guys sharing what they know first hand..

I understand Bernie voters. I understand Trump voters. I cannot understand who supports this cackling hen. It's just insane that they don't see her lies. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I've only ever shot 1....drilled him flipped right over...new to Turkey hunting I immediately stood up and called my dad to tell him......with my shotgun leaning on tree a few steps away I watched that bird fly away...looked all over never to be seen again.... Wait I guess that counts too lol damn Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

When I get good at killing turkeys I only hope to be as good as this guy! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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My hunting buddy called tonight to ask if I'd be interested in tracking again. He has a line on a good bloodline wirehaired dachshund. Her name is Xena and she is 9 months old. Both our tracking dogs died a few years ago after long lives doing what they loved to do. So we got away from blood tracking. Not sure if we will be under the Deersearch banner this time around. But will be independent and track for local hunters. Guess I better start getting in shape.

My first and second attempts at proper euro mounts. In the past I would simply bury the skulls in a small sand pit and dig them up in the late spring. These were simmered in water and dawn soap, power washed , sealed with a matte clear and then I put a light stain on the antlers. I learned along the way and hope to have chance to try it again next season. The 8pt was shot 11/29/15 and the 10pt 1/31/16, both were archery bucks taken in NJ.

NOW it's all clear why you like Ted's Hotdogs so much.

This time of the year season is hard to tell, where some animals are growing/changing their coats/fur.Also this is the time to be using some bug treatments fleas/ticks/flies and mites.

I wanna hunt without getting soaked...........the Hell with the lawn.

The reason I post this thread was because that morning I watched a hunting show on TV. Wasn't Turkey Thugs or Turkey Man but forgot the name. Guy plum missed, shot high, right over birds head. Not a difficult shot at all. His dad razzed him as he did the same thing the year before. And holy cow could this guy call on a mouth call. And thankfully he didn't try and shoot bird in strut for coverage. Taking my daughter out again and try to call in 2 birds we saw during youth hunt. I'll be stuffing heavi magblends as XR's way too tight inside my daughters guns range. I don't want to be posting about another miss and me be the one possibly messing up a potential double. Oh boy, actually it would be funny for her to razz me if it happened .

Yes, depends on child . A bb gun would be a good start. Make the shooting fun, teach them to respect of the gun, shooting form etc. I think my daughter first shot her single shot .22 Cricket at 8 or 9. Never got her a bb gun but may have started her earlier. Bought a Ruger 10/.22 40th anniversary when she was 13 months old. Still NIB ,need to get optics. She's been shooting mine for years. Bought her Gander MTN limited youth pink woodgrain 870 20 when she was about 2 or 3. Just started shooting that last year. Low brass field loads. Bought some reduced recoil Magblends I stuff in it for turkey. Heart racing, blood pumping and bird strutting hoping she never feels it go off. My Winny 1300 used to kick the tar out of me testing 3" loads. On a bird,never felt it.

Good news on the retina not being an issue! That's got to be a relief! I just had an eye appointment Wednesday, and confirmed that there's nothing (legal or ethical) that they will do for a floater. She did say it's most likely it'll move around (hence "floater") as mine is almost dead center in my vision. At least it's not my scope eye! I may need glasses in the near future though. Made it to 57 w/o them, just readers since late 40's.

I jumped out in front of them and just stood staring, They got the message, turned tail and skedaddled.

Agreed. I don't have the luxury of hunting or scouting everyday, pretty busy with this thing called "life". But I can call them in and knock them down with the best of them when I do get a chance to get out, don't need to thump my chest on an internet forum to prove that. Not every bird is a slam dunk shot at 20 yards, but I will agree that the further out they are or if you have to take a shot from an awkward position, the chance of missing (or peppering them) increases.

People who spend their lives in politics disgust me. That woman is going to be president for 8 years. Let that sink in. Shudder

Rib eye , veggies and a few gin and tonics !

I've missed. Hasn't everybody?

Fake retraction of a statement. I've said it, others have said it, this woman belongs in prison for treason, not in a position to run the USA. It's not hearsay it's facts. She's nothing more then Obama with boobs.

Breakfast ! Smoked a pork shoulder yesterday rubbed in honey mustard and coffee rub. Then threw in crockpot overnight. Couldn't wait to try it. Some homemade slaw and Sweet Baby Rays BBQ sauce.

Well that story is certinlly lacking in any factual details ...... First rule of the outdoors , let someone know where you'll be and when you plan to return . Right now our oldest daughter is stomping around the pacific north west . She follows that rule and her day pack is well supplied . A day hiker needs to well prepared , the backpacker has , shelter, sleeping bags, stove , food and on and on. A backpacker gets lost, he simply camps there with all the supplies he has and waits . The day hiker needs skills to make what he has in the smaller pack him see through . Edit: little more detail . http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-mother-daughter-new-zealand-rescue-20160502-story.html How about carrying fire starters , rain gear and an extra layer or two ?

I once fell asleep under a car, while doing an oil change…No porcupines involved, but I think alcohol was...

Keep 'em; we've got rats, coons and skunks.

To just shoot? I may let a young one try a bb gun at 7 or 8 but to be given (not kept by but stored by an adult) a gun, Somewhere between the age of 8 and 10, there are always exceptions, but at that age a child can truly understand the dangers of a gun and has the patience to learn and want to shoot. I would start them with a bb gun, a 22 at 10 maybe. If they show aptitude and resposibility.

Caught a mange yote trapping this year...hope it didn't get to far....foxes and coons all clean Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

Ok so I am taking a youth out for his first hunt sunday am...he was at scout camp for youth hunt so this is our first opportunity. I am not much of a turkey hunter and have never killed one...the land I am hunting I know better than anyone. I know where the birds roost and i know there's 2 sets of flocks. Now I'm looking for opinions on decoys should I use them or not. I don't have any and don't plan on spending much on them if you guys advise me to get them but I will get them if it will increase his odds...I will be able to set up 2 or 300 yards from roost spot and tuck in well...the land is. Hill should I be looking uphill or down or across toward the roost...I'm thinking up bc of where I believe they will fly off to... also I'm a new caller but have had spring birds anwser me just never sealed the deal. Should I call lightly once I hear the gobbles or wait it out a bit? Lot of questions in there hopefully some of you guys have insites....if I can get him on a bird it will be his first kill of any kind so gonna give it all I got Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

Saw a mangy yote walking along side the 90 the other morning ... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Deer poaching legislation that increases penalties for poaching deer is making some progress. Amendments had to be made to first get it through, but it was voted on and passed through the Assembly uncontested. Not a single 'Nay' vote! Lots of momentum now going into the senate. Several hundred if not thousands of $ to illegally shoot a deer and possible imprisonment. Also it got rid of the wording "wild deer", so if you shoot a pet deer behind someone's fence, there's a possibility this might kick in too but not completely sure. Definitely will make a difference. Before the penalties were practically nothing with no incentive for a poacher to change his/her ways. Areas hit hard by it is most likely same people being repeat offenders. Lots of incentive not to be that way now. https://www.qdma.com/news/qdma-supports-new-york-bills-to-increase-poaching-penalties http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?default_fld=&leg_video=&bn=A07171&term=2015&Summary=Y&Text=Y

Humans can also contract Mange by coming in contact with animals that have it. Mange is caused by tiny mites that burrow into the skin and cause severe itching. On animals the mites will thrive and reproduce eventually to the point of covering the whole body. On Humans they will not survive and reproduce but for the short while they are alive and active you will itch worse than having poison ivy. Al

I don't think so. I'm part of the solution. I will be voting for Trump!

You're not trying to change my mind? And yes. The occupiers threatened thousands and thousands of people. Everyday. People just trying to live life. Go to work. Take their kids on vacations. Business owners trying to provide for their families. Your group broke more laws and destroyed more property and were a far more greater cost to the taxpayer than the peaceful protests of the Bundy group. You are such a hypocrite to condone the occupiers and condemn the Bundy group.

Uncle Nicky I can respect the fact you have a life, we all do. And yes all shots aren't slam dunks, some in fact are much harder n imo should prob be passed. If we're fairly often missing than the shots are too tough. We owe the game our best shot. Hope we can agree on that. My point in saying it's hard to miss is it is when good shots are taken and to make anxious folks less so. It's only a shot, we need to be so confident in our abilities we know we can't miss or the shot is passed., The assumptions people make on this site are asinine, this goes to no one in particular btw. When I grew up no one offered any help or advice. Everyone's experiences is different n hence the difference types of advice given. I've been at this game a long time n do not mind helping, especially newer folks. You guys need to stop assuming the worst in people. No one knows someone else's intent.

That's what it's all about! Me and my sister hunted all last turkey season and never heard a single gobble together. I'm hoping we can at least fire one or two up for her between tomorrow and Saturday. She's getting tired of looking at my pictures and then we never see or hear anything when she's with me,lol That's just the way it goes.

I'm the worst of all.... An evil trophy hunter who likes to travel internationally. Our numbers are minuscule compared to the overall hunting population and issues that concern me are of little to zero interest to most. NJ just passed some damn scary legislation that would have several of my mounts requiring registration! That a$$wipe Christie only did a partial veto and the legislature there is expected to pass a lightly modified version of the law. Why does that matter to me in NY? Because we are linked by the Port Authority and importing regulations and some of the language will be taken up by the NY legislature to get both sides on the same page. Act as a unified force? Hunters are so stupid we can't agree on the simple topics.... We're screwed.

I understand and also despise poaching, but not just deer. I have a problem with the guys they catch with piles of fish when the limit is 50, or the guy that shoots a turkey a day early, because he didn't want to take a chance on someone else shooting that big bird. I believe all poaching needs to be addressed equally. I have had many discussions about this with different people and here is some of the different perspectives I hear about raising the fines to high. When we only look at poaching, that is all we see and it makes us mad when they get off easy. When we pull back and look at the bigger picture things can change. What else does the judge have come across his bench in their time there? What may influence them in their decisions to go easy on the poacher, or anyone for that matter? Everyone's first reaction is they know the guy, may be a friend or even relative. I am sure that may happen but consider this. A drunk driver kills a pregnant mother of 2 young children, and all the judge can do is sentence him to is a year in jail because of the circumstances. One day he has a case of child molestation and all he can give him 6 months probation with the evidence they have. Then everything clicks, there is a rock solid case on something really bad, he throws the book at the guy only to have a parole board let them out early, or worse yet, someone wants to reduce the number of inmates in the jails, so back on the street he goes after serving 6 months of a 10 year sentence. So now someone comes before the judge that is charged with shooting an illegal deer and the judge is asked to fine them and put them in jail for a year. That's all he could do to the drunk driver and far less than he could give the child molester. Could this lend itself to a decision to go easy on a poacher? Without knowing why the judge let the poacher off easy, one can only speculation. Judges have to fit a punishment to a crime, and they can see all kinds. Not saying these cases actually happened, but the judge sees many more cases than just the poacher, and it has to weigh on them when a fine for an animal is higher than they can give someone for something more egregious. Not saying it's right, but the entire judicial system is upside down. I am sure there are times the judge is taking care of his buddies, but don't blame them all. We don't know what evil's they were forced to let go.

I have never missed. Never, ever. Just don't ask me how many I have killed. Makes my streak of perfection less impressive.

LOL Pigfoxbaby! look for it in next years Superbowl!

looks good.....try Minwax "golden oak" in the future....I found that to be pretty natural looking.

Had a successful hunt this morning! Thankfully, we each had a blind to sit in in two different fields. Around 6:10 I saw 5 birds in front of my friends blind, so I turned around to watch the action unfold. After 10 minutes it looked like his birds were moving off, so I turned around to watch my own field. There 2 turkeys there! I put the binoculars up and saw one was a hen, the other a Jake. Both were moving in my direction. 30 seconds later a third bird -TOM - comes walking up too. I waited until they were in range and just as there were, both male birds were standing inches apart. I had to wait until they separated or risk shooting both of them at the same time. The Tom moved closer and I let one fly. MISS! He took off and was in the air within seconds. Young Jake stood around, so I pumped in another shell and knocked him down. Just after my fist shot, my friend in the other blind shot at a Tom, as those birds moved closer to his blind while I was working mine. He had a clean miss, so we will both be out looking to score again as soon as possible. It was a fun day in the rain!