phade Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 DId you discuss recovery rights before the season? 7.5 acres is not a ton of room for deer to die on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbucks27 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 You should wait in your stand and next time he gets in and stares at you and fires off some shots you should stare back at him with a smile and do the same thing with one of these looks . J/K guy sounds like a real jerk. i would take a regular small video cam along with you instead of your phone. it will be able to film a lot further and a lot clearer. John John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry_1207 Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 He's 59 and I'm 54. Two well grown up adults LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 LOL...Well "grown up adults"....doesn't always apply no matter how old a person is....and at that age...it really could be an early onset problem...be careful...I'd chat up some ppl he may know( other nieghbors...locals you run into...ect..ect)...with out mentioning the difficulties...and see what you can find out about his personality in general...even your ups person if you talk...dang they know the skinny on every thing...very helpful...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rossi Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Do what people who do not have their own land do: ask permission - in advance. If they say no, its no... Well, ok that neighbor is a bad example... I will rephrase it: With other people, try asking in advance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Judging from your description of your property, are you 500' from his dwelling? Be careful because if your stand is, he can pull out that card if he wants as well. I don't think DEC would help much because at this point, it's a police issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Another good option, is to bring a small camcorder out with you. If you are on stand and he does this crap again, record it and then give it to the state police, DEC, etc. Again though, all considerations need to be accounted for. What is the long-term scenario likely to be? How much acreage are we talking about, too. i'd be a little cautious about this. dude sounds like he's off his rocker and people dont like being filmed. it might just make things worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonelement Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 people end up shooting their best friends and life partners by accident...whos to say it could not happen to a PITA neighbor!!!! JUST KIDDING Some people just suck id give it back to him...wait for him to need permission to recover a deer on your prop and say NO! Just make sure u take good shots from then on in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim335 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 How long has this been happening? How long have you been neighbors? Sounds like he's ticked because your shooting "his" deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow nocker Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Helmet cam.Put it on your hat.It will look like a flash light on your hat.Then he doesn't know he is on film.they work good enough to see what is happening.Not like a go pro or any thing.But it will do.Some can be had on ebay for like 75.00 for the chinese model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erussell Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I would have went over to the line and shot 2 slugs into my stand then called the state police and said he shot at me. Its his word against yours and you can show them where he shot from by the empty shotgun shells on the ground. Then as he is rotting in prison go sit in his stands and shoot his deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooly Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I would have went over to the line and shot 2 slugs into my stand then called the state police and said he shot at me. Its his word against yours and you can show them where he shot from by the empty shotgun shells on the ground. Then as he is rotting in prison go sit in his stands and shoot his deer. This sound a little extreme don't ya think,lol? How 'bout ya send him a nice Christmas card and a bottle of booze to take the edge off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erussell Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 This sound a little extreme don't ya think,lol? How 'bout ya send him a nice Christmas card and a bottle of booze to take the edge off! LOL!!! Great, rage, booze and guns a great mix. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamon demon Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 You really want to get back at him. Next gun season opener instead of hunting fire up your chain saw and start whacking trees down at the edge of the property right around day light. You will need an alternative place to hunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 DId you discuss recovery rights before the season? 7.5 acres is not a ton of room for deer to die on. Great advice. You then know what you are dealing with in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 You really want to get back at him. Next gun season opener instead of hunting fire up your chain saw and start whacking trees down at the edge of the property right around day light. You will need an alternative place to hunt Thats called hunter harassment and is illegal, just like what the neighbor did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainHunter Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Take the high road! And then Subtly torment the $:&t out of him For the rest of his life. Karma can be nasty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Thats called hunter harassment and is illegal, just like what the neighbor did. Not to mention immoral as all get out.Dont slink down to his level take the high road and use the laws and rules we all need to abide by. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad 6424 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 sounds like the kind of guy I would like to meet in the woods and have some fun with First I would find out just how close he was to any of my buildings as was stated before get the DEC there they carry more power then the state troopers let the DEC know about the 500ft thing maybe hes grumpy because hes trying to hide something on his land in my many years of hunting most folks are ok but when someone is doin things that are not right they tend to get a little moody for fear of the silver bracelets if tring to talk to the guy doesnt work just keepon keeping on its your land and your hunting rights just try get them on the ground before they get to the line I try to get a head or neck shot when close to the lines if you need a body shot then MAYBE dont take it Just one rednecks in put Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 You really want to get back at him. Next gun season opener instead of hunting fire up your chain saw and start whacking trees down at the edge of the property right around day light. You will need an alternative place to hunt I don't think you realize just how ugly that kind of escalation can get to be. How far do you want to go? There definitely is a lot of value to trying to end all the anomosity rather than trying to fuel it. People have been shot with that kind of "get even" attitude. Do you really want to create situations where you have to be constantly looking over your shoulder, or worrying about the safety of your personal property. I mean some of these kinds of things can develop into a living hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Helmet cam.Put it on your hat.It will look like a flash light on your hat.Then he doesn't know he is on film.they work good enough to see what is happening.Not like a go pro or any thing.But it will do.Some can be had on ebay for like 75.00 for the chinese model. i use a gopro when i hunt sometimes. Turn the red recording light off and from a distance he would never know. All you really need is the audio anyhow. There might be some legality with recording without permission and stuff though. I stick with my thoughts of avoiding this guy and just realizing some people are jerks and you're not going to change that. Some hunters (my dad is one of them) get very territorial about neighbors and deer as they "want them all for themselves" or are trying to grow better genetics and herds, however I think he'd really only be "upset" not "mad" if you shot a giant 12 pointer, not a doe. haha. Thats called hunter harassment and is illegal, just like what the neighbor did. i don't think they consider it harassment if it's your land and you're cutting down firewood. pretty common around me actually as the winter approaches. Even if that's the intent it's hard to prove. The only case I know that resulted in a fine was a guy I work with had a lady banging pots and pans on HIS property. Now that's harassment. I don't think you realize just how ugly that kind of escalation can get to be. How far do you want to go? There definitely is a lot of value to trying to end all the anomosity rather than trying to fuel it. People have been shot with that kind of "get even" attitude. Do you really want to create situations where you have to be constantly looking over your shoulder, or worrying about the safety of your personal property. I mean some of these kinds of things can develop into a living hell. amen. Edited December 14, 2012 by Belo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow nocker Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Move.Or at least thats my wife answer for my PITA neighbor."lets just move".like its like trading in a truck for a new one or something.I can't hunt behind my house in the afternoon.They see me go out back with my bow and they fire up the wheelers and run up and down the hill and around the little 1 acre bedding area down there.Its fine for the first 10 mins as maybe they push something to me.After that its annoying.Then they like to get out the shotguns and target shoot.So i don't even hunt there in the evening.Hard to prove hunter harassment since they are doing normal activities.Banging on pans is for sure hunter harassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 There might be some legality with recording without permission and stuff though. It is not illegal for you to record someone's actions as long as you are the one doing the recording. However, if someone else is secretly recording a conversation between you and someone else without either party's knowledge then that's illegal. Just my legal opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELMER J. FUDD Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Go to the local biker bar and buy a few rounds. Then invite all your new friends over to "stop by and say hello" to the neighbor. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 i don't think they consider it harassment if it's your land and you're cutting down firewood. pretty common around me actually as the winter approaches. Even if that's the intent it's hard to prove. The only case I know that resulted in a fine was a guy I work with had a lady banging pots and pans on HIS property. Now that's harassment. First light on opening day of gun season when you have already had documented issues with the person? Yeah, not too hard to prove. Harassment, and scummy behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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