WNYBuckHunter Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 As some of you may have read in another topic, I have been using Remington Copper Solid slugs in my 20 gauge with the problem of it going through the deer without expanding and leaving very small entry and exit holes. I am done using them, and am looking to find a slug that will give me the same type of performance accuracy wise, but will expand better upon impact. I havent had time to do much research, but I thought I had heard Hornady was making a ballistic tip slug for 20 gauge now? What are you guys using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Lightfield Hybred sabot slugs. But I use a 12 gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Thats what i use in my 20 and i have had good luck with them.I shot a doe this year and it was a pass through at about 125yds.She ran mabey 50yds with double lung shot.They leave a good hole but i think with the 20 being so fast you will find the same with any slug.I had good sucess but i also had clear shot with good slug placement!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I use Remington Sluggers out of my 870, soft lead does a number on deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I agree with doewhacker.. although my 870 is about 40 years old.. I have never used anything buck Remington 1 .oz slugs without any acccuracy problems or shocking power. Lead is the only way to go short range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 All I use are plain old nasty 12 guage Winchester slugs. generally speaking I find the deer right where I saw them when I shot. My old Ithaca groups them pretty good too when I run my annual pre-season scope/gun check. I can't recommend them as being any better than anything else because I have not really done a lot of experimentation with different kinds of slugs. Winchester is pretty much what I started with. They always did the job and I just stayed with them. I'm sort of hoping that by next year here in Ontario county we will be talking about what caliber and load of deer rifle I should be using instead of shotgun slugs ..... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 20 gauge Hornady SST. Best place to buy is Dick's Sporting Goods when they go on sale for $9.99. I've looked hard and long for a better deal, but it's not there to the regular joe. Normal price is $14.99 with them going down to $10.99 at times on sale...but Dick's has done the $9.99 sale twice per year for the pas two seasons. They do a number on the deer...all shots were all within 35 yards Sunday morning. Down range accuracy is great as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleitten04 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I use Winchester's. They have always worked for me but I have had some accuracy problems with the 3in. shells shooting much higher then where I'm aiming at 50 yards where the 2 3/4 are just about right on (this is with open sights). Also I have heard that lightfield makes the best there is according to some people at B Pro. My buddy shoots them and likes them but they run him $15 for a box of 5. LOL I pay $5 for a box of 5 !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 When I was carrying my shot gun I swore by these.-- Vital-Shok® Barnes® Expander® and Tipped Expander® if the long distance isn't what you really need...the untipped expander (deep hollow point) knock down like crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I never understood why some guys change slugs when they are killing deer with the ones they've been using. (Well unless they change guns) I have never switched slugs in 35 years of deer hunting with my 870... If it ain't broke.. don't fix it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 shooting is one thing but if the bullet isn't performing.....I would change. I ca't remember the what bullets my father had but the same issue for his 270.....poke throughs and no expansion or dammage. got him on regular old soft tipped and he has been putting them in a pile ever since. best grouping in the world is great but I like them on the ground...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santamour123 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 The SST are by far the best thing going now. I saw a guns and ammo TV were dick metcalf was testing these. The penitration and terminal shock was comparable to a 7mm-08. with a much bigger whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I like the balistic tips for my rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpteach Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Lightfield Hybred sabot slugs. But I use a 12 gauge. +1, I use them in 16 gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16. ga hunter Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 lightfield hybred exp 2 3/4" puts them down in their tracks great expansion last slug was lodged in opposite shoulder and measured almost a full inch switched to them after blowing the belly out of a doe with barnes expander which entered just behind left shoulder imo the lightfields perform very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 I've been using the copper solids for years in my 12 gauge and for me they are a killing machine, short and long range! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted December 15, 2010 Author Share Posted December 15, 2010 shooting is one thing but if the bullet isn't performing.....I would change. I ca't remember the what bullets my father had but the same issue for his 270.....poke throughs and no expansion or dammage. got him on regular old soft tipped and he has been putting them in a pile ever since. best grouping in the world is great but I like them on the ground...lol Right on. The Remington Copper Solids group great in my gun, Ive been shooting 3 inch groups with them since I really made an effort to figure out what shot best with that gun. Like I said, they arent expanding, and it wasnt just this last time. Ill try to get a picture up of the slug from Saturday, the only expansion happened when it hit the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted December 15, 2010 Author Share Posted December 15, 2010 So after doing a bit of research and hearing what has been said, I think the slugs Ill be testing in my gun will be the Hornady SSTs, Remington Premier Core-Lokts, and the Winchester Supreme Elites. If anyone has any other suggestions in sabots, Id like to hear them. BTW, I will not be going with Lightfields, those rounds lose too much steam after 100 yards and arent accurate enough past 50 yards for me. Been there, done that. They were the first slugs I used in this barrel and they were fine up close, but I want to be able to put something down at 125 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16. ga hunter Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 hmm thats odd they shoot well out of my gun out to 125 rarely have a shot at that distance but like you said all guns are different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 WNYBC, I replied on your other thread but my question is what would cause a factory load to do this and I think it's amazing that you found the slug intact. Were these loads from the factory defective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whelen Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 I shoot the Winchester 385 gr 1900 fps partition golds out of a Mossberg 500, great groups and lots of deer drop in their tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Last season a good friend of mine was using his 870 with the copper solids. shot at a doe....thought the shot sounded funny and the deer didn't move...racked the action and shot again. the barrel exploded and ripped the barrel down the side and the second shot exited the barrel just above his hand on the fore end. the first shot had stayed in the barrel. Remington took his gun and the boxes of slugs and after a couple months let him pick any new shotgun from their line. I don't think they ever gave him a determination on what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted December 15, 2010 Author Share Posted December 15, 2010 Ok, here are pics of the slug. The area that did expand is where a small rock, about the same size as the slug, was lodged in it. As you can see it did not expand the way it should. Add to that we found it after it had only penetrated the ground an inch or two. Far less penetration than youd expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 That deer didn't have a big red "S" on his chest ...did he? ws there any meat or blood on the bullet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Localqdm Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 That's terrible. Kinda like bow hunting w/field tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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